Pharmaceutical vs Generic

[ItsDaBoii]

results u cant even compare just like Seth said,i was eating like crazy and still would wake up leaner in the morning,pumps are insane in the gym and also muscle fullness,roundness,every weak u see changes...and u can use 50% less aas and get same or even better results

Well i guess lab tests are lying then

 

[MuscleFreak]

Well i guess lab tests are lying then

there is a reason one is like 6x more expensive,u get what u pay for

 

[ItsDaBoii]

there is a reason one is like 6x more expensive,u get what u pay for

I respect your opinion dont get me wrong but thats just anecdotal... if generic gh shows up as real growth hormone on a lab test then its working just as good as pharma gh

Also where would you buy pharma gh? The risk of buying fake stuff is pretty high. I guess you have a script for it?

 

[Silentlemon1011]

I believe in data.
I hear a similar story when I ask why Pharma is better.
the response is always "It just is"
Why?
If Generic gets Tested at 99% with 0 dimer
and Pharma tests comes back the same...
I dont understand how they arent rhe same GH.

HPLC doesnt get tricked.

 

[ItsDaBoii]

I believe in data.
I hear a similar story when I ask why Pharma is better.
the response is always "It just is"
Why?
If Generic gets Tested at 99% with 0 dimer
and Pharma tests comes back the same...
I dont understand how they arent rhe same GH.

HPLC doesnt get tricked.

Yeah exactly

 

[MuscleFreak]

I believe in data.
I hear a similar story when I ask why Pharma is better.
the response is always "It just is"
Why?
If Generic gets Tested at 99% with 0 dimer
and Pharma tests comes back the same...
I dont understand how they arent rhe same GH.

HPLC doesnt get tricked.

yeah I know bro,i still use for off season good generic like ansome...I was thinking just like u it is all the same HGH is HGH until i decided to spend some more money on real pharma and was just shocked like Seth Feroce

 

[MuscleFreak]

I respect your opinion dont get me wrong but thats just anecdotal... if generic gh shows up as real growth hormone on a lab test then its working just as good as pharma gh

Also where would you buy pharma gh? The risk of buying fake stuff is pretty high. I guess you have a script for it?

i know what u mean but everyone who tried both will tell u just like me...i still use good generic in off season to save some money

 

[Rick Kane]

If all pharma is equal why are they all different? Humas are not the same as Seros are not the same as Saizen are not the same as Geno....

 

[lilhawk]

If all pharma is equal why are they all different? Humas are not the same as Seros are not the same as Saizen are not the same as Geno....

Each company uses a different filler in their GH, which people can respond to differently. Try them all and find out which one works for you the best. The only pharma GH I don't care for is Genotropin. Felt flat on it all the time. Humas, Seros, Nutropin, Saizen, love all of them.

 

[lilhawk]

Well i guess lab tests are lying then

Yeah a lot of lab tests are bullshit. I've used the all the generics in the past, Thanktropins, Novos, Rips, Grey tops from PD, of which the PD greys were the best generic I used, and I have used almost every brand of USA pharma GH, and you don't get the results from generics you get with pharma. They just aren't the same. There isn't any quality control with generics either. Years ago with the Kigtropin scam one of the guys associated with the Kigs told me what the Chinese do to make more profit is mix their kits with vials that have different amounts of GH in them. They will mix a kit with 10 vials that are supposed to be 10iu per vial, some have nothing in them, some have 4iu, some have 8iu and some have 10iu. The Chinese are con artists with everything. If you don't believe there is a difference save up and grab a kit of American Humatrope, Serostim, Saizen, etc. and use just 3iu per day. You will be blown away at the results you get starting immediately, not in a month or 3 months.

 

[lilhawk]

yeah I know bro,i still use for off season good generic like ansome...I was thinking just like u it is all the same HGH is HGH until i decided to spend some more money on real pharma and was just shocked like Seth Feroce

If you're using Ansomone technically you're still using pharma GH, as its pharma GH that is distributed in China.

 

[ItsDaBoii]

If you're using Ansomone technically you're still using pharma GH, as its pharma GH that is distributed in China.

Well the only thing that bothers me with pharma gh is the problem with the fake stuff... can you really trust turkish humatrope for example?

 

[MuscleFreak]

If you're using Ansomone technically you're still using pharma GH, as its pharma GH that is distributed in China.

it is just good generic,china does not have pharma...i am right now on ansome and cant even compare results with genotropin at same IU...if they are the same price would be similar this is good explanation

 

[MuscleFreak]

Well the only thing that bothers me with pharma gh is the problem with the fake stuff... can you really trust turkish humatrope for example?

yeah there is a lot of fakes,that is why we guys who compete only get HGH from the source we trust and u can check codes online if its legit..but even if u dont check u will know u have real pharma right away

 

[Eman]

it is just good generic,china does not have pharma

Define pharma please.

 

[Eman]

this is good explanation

Which part? All he says is that 6iu of generic GH is probably more like 4iu, then goes onto say generics are less filtered than FDA approved GH which makes you encounter more water retention... Wtf?

He also says that jintropin is FDA approved... Pretty sure that is not the case! I honestly didn't watch anymore.

 

[stone988]

Here it is folks, if you like Pharma use Pharma if you like generic use generic. This subject makes me laugh, there will always be a group that says Pharma anything is 100 times better and anything generic or ugl is garbage. Of course most have to justify doing Gay For Pay to get their GH so it must make sense the them to justify taking another mans cock. lol Like most pros who have synthol in 90% of their muscles but say its the Pharma gear lmao

 

[bambam333]

Which part? All he says is that 6iu of generic GH is probably more like 4iu, then goes onto say generics are less filtered than FDA approved GH which makes you encounter more water retention... Wtf?

He also says that jintropin is FDA approved... Pretty sure that is not the case! I honestly didn't watch anymore.

What’s your opinion on this do you think there’s a difference?

 

[Eman]

What’s your opinion on this do you think there’s a difference?

It's kind of a difficult thing to answer because there is a lot to consider and I don't believe there is actually one right correct answer.

With that said, I know there is a group of people that have used pharma that swear they can tell no difference. Then there's the group that have taken both and swear that pharma blows every generic out of the water. With that in mind, I have to agree with @stone988 that if you notice better results with one of them... Then take that one. But I don't think either group can argue that one is better than the other.

Pharma probably gets a slight advantage because you probably aren't going to need to question it as much, whereas generics have a long history of being questioned. If you have a good source for pharma, you are probably all set... But the same argument could be made for generics. I think over time, they'll be seen as much more equal.. there's no question that they've been improving on tests even in just the last few years... I personally don't see a lot of bunk tests these days but I pay less attention to it because generics have treated me great. Consistently high IGF scores, great results too.

The last thing I think it's important to consider is, if you have a generic that's tested and it comes back the same as what a pharma product would... Then you have two generally equal substances. Even in the pharma world, I know several folks that prefer a certain brand over another because they say it's better... And I think it's the same in the generic world too. Personally, I always liked blacktops the best.

Sorry for the long winded reply that doesn't really offer anything concrete... TLDR is to just use what you get the best results from! If that's generics, great.. if that's pharm grade, that's okay too but I bet you'll use less of it.

 

[bambam333]

It's kind of a difficult thing to answer because there is a lot to consider and I don't believe there is actually one right correct answer.

With that said, I know there is a group of people that have used pharma that swear they can tell no difference. Then there's the group that have taken both and swear that pharma blows every generic out of the water. With that in mind, I have to agree with @stone988 that if you notice better results with one of them... Then take that one. But I don't think either group can argue that one is better than the other.

Pharma probably gets a slight advantage because you probably aren't going to need to question it as much, whereas generics have a long history of being questioned. If you have a good source for pharma, you are probably all set... But the same argument could be made for generics. I think over time, they'll be seen as much more equal.. there's no question that they've been improving on tests even in just the last few years... I personally don't see a lot of bunk tests these days but I pay less attention to it because generics have treated me great. Consistently high IGF scores, great results too.

The last thing I think it's important to consider is, if you have a generic that's tested and it comes back the same as what a pharma product would... Then you have two generally equal substances. Even in the pharma world, I know several folks that prefer a certain brand over another because they say it's better... And I think it's the same in the generic world too. Personally, I always liked blacktops the best.

Sorry for the long winded reply that doesn't really offer anything concrete... TLDR is to just use what you get the best results from! If that's generics, great.. if that's pharm grade, that's okay too but I bet you'll use less of it.

Thanks for the detailed reply it’s always been a long standing debate of Pharma vs ug I always like to hear everyone’s opinions. For gear I’m 100 percent imo but that 100mg is 100mg Pharma or ugl but haven’t made my mind up on hgh I feel like there’s alil more that goes into it than aas