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@manafest what was literally *just* covered in the thread you left? Naps geneza line also had a positive test result yet has been caught red handed with improper products or quality standards.

I'm optimistic about pharmacom and this is really good news but for all that is good and pure in this world, we'd really benefit from you saying less. Your insults and opinions and vote of confidence mean less with each day... you're not helping.

You could have easily linked the positive result without stupidly declaring it as permanent proof of perfect tren and dismissing everyone

Let millard's testing program and users' lab results take its course without your moronic commentary from the sideline
I didn't say its universal.. but lets face the facts a lot of people on forums have unterior motives.
 
SO looks as if people saying pharmacom tren was underdosed were just lying.. it tested at 92 mg/ml...
Glad it's not bunk. I actually still have some questions about those results though. They supposedly have a ms machine of their own... Why isn't everything dosed precisely? Maybe I'm tripping but if we tested some Watson cyp wouldn't it test at exactly 200mg/ml?

Don't get me wrong, I'm plenty happy with 92% dosed tren... Just trying to see if we're being lied to or if they are really mass specing all their raws.
 
So it's Only ok on meso to Have Negative things to say about sources such as I am doing their tren at 100mg a day o wait 150 mg per day and feel nothing its Bad fake underdosed.. ???? but then a random test gets done and its at 92 which was actually a factful test.. So when i make comment that PEOPLE who tend to lie and have ulterior motives i get third degree.. Pffffff i will keep telling it like it is......don't like it ignore me
 
Then again i see people all the time coming and posting that so and so gear is good and right away they get called a shill or a dickrider... Seems to me a lot of times its a no win situation on anything you say.... Yes people do have Ulterior motives a lot of times Just as sources have them as well... Yes sources sell fake gear... yes People Lie all the time..I'm not bitter angry assbent and have no motives other then reading a lot of stupid shit and pointing it out.. Sure sometimes i might be totally wrong, nobodys always right i can accept that.....
 
Then again i see people all the time coming and posting that so and so gear is good and right away they get called a shill or a dickrider... Seems to me a lot of times its a no win situation on anything you say.... Yes people do have Ulterior motives a lot of times Just as sources have them as well... Yes sources sell fake gear... yes People Lie all the time..I'm not bitter angry assbent and have no motives other then reading a lot of stupid shit and pointing it out.. Sure sometimes i might be totally wrong, nobodys always right i can accept that.....
I totally get what you're saying man, I was simply stating that anything is possible with multiple batches, that's all.
 
I totally get what you're saying man, I was simply stating that anything is possible with multiple batches, that's all.
of course there is..just as much as user error or someone flat out lying about stuff..so far 8 out of 8 random tests and all are within reason i myself would not have guessed this so far...It sure makes you starting thinking a tad bit different.
 
I won't start thinking any different until the same lab has been tested multiple times with the same products in different batches. This testing is meant to help out in the future not today.
Ok fair enough..However the tests so far were still random tests that's proved within reason...lets flip the situation and all were fake or underdosed to the extreme.. you would have 100 people thinking or saying i TOLD you i felt it was underdosed..!! see my point? makes you think differently...
 
Ok fair enough..However the tests so far were still random tests that's proved within reason...lets flip the situation and all were fake or underdosed to the extreme.. you would have 100 people thinking or saying i TOLD you i felt it was underdosed..!! see my point? makes you think differently...

Honesty there are a hand full of people who's word I would even consider trusting. I've read so many contradicting posts that many people have made that I have little to no faith in anything anyone says. Let's say a batch does come back bad on millards test. Depending on the how the source handles it and explains it is more of what I'm worried about. Trust me I'm sure there are even mess ups with Watson every once in a while. Everybody here is so impatient with things. Always rushing and jumping in headfirst. Let these test work the way they are supposed to and wait and see
 
Glad it's not bunk. I actually still have some questions about those results though. They supposedly have a ms machine of their own... Why isn't everything dosed precisely? Maybe I'm tripping but if we tested some Watson cyp wouldn't it test at exactly 200mg/ml?

Don't get me wrong, I'm plenty happy with 92% dosed tren... Just trying to see if we're being lied to or if they are really mass specing all their raws.

No Watson would not always test at 200mg/ml. They are allowed a standard of error
 
Ok im out of this thread. The rest of franks gear will land in the garbage.

One last tip frank. I never had to sign for your packages. Your resellers sends them wrong. Tracking ends at greece borders. I could have claimed that and got all the money back. Thats for the reverse scamming claim.

Fucking reverse scamming piece of shit. If you never received your packages how the fuck would you know this?

Why is everyone out to fuck everyone else. Jesus we're all trapped on this ball of dirt together. Does anyone do what's right anymore or just what's right for themselves?
 
I have not order from these guys. Was looking for a source to keep in my back pocket. After reading all this.i don't know what to make of anything. See people saying yeah it pretty good. Then a bad test result then all hell break lose. Then get a few bottom feeders trying to scam some free shit looked like to me. I say fuk it I am about to try it out. Just to see for myself who is blowing smoke out there ass.
 
So it's Only ok on meso to Have Negative things to say about sources such as I am doing their tren at 100mg a day o wait 150 mg per day and feel nothing its Bad fake underdosed.. ???? but then a random test gets done and its at 92 which was actually a factful test.. So when i make comment that PEOPLE who tend to lie and have ulterior motives i get third degree.. Pffffff i will keep telling it like it is......don't like it ignore me
Im glad to see you're standing your ground. But, the only way to know for sure is to get it tested.
Those test are expensive so its not reasonable to do every cycle.
Labmax can tell you hormone is present but not quantity or tell if the bacteria level or dosage is right.)
 
I have not order from these guys. Was looking for a source to keep in my back pocket. After reading all this.i don't know what to make of anything. See people saying yeah it pretty good. Then a bad test result then all hell break lose. Then get a few bottom feeders trying to scam some free shit looked like to me. I say fuk it I am about to try it out. Just to see for myself who is blowing smoke out there ass.
Good luck. Hope you get what you pay for. If millar test was for this batch then you should be good
 
Like all of you im very excited about this testing program. But lets not be to quick to call ANY of the labs that have been tested gtg. While it is promising, i think it will take several tests on the same labs to come to any sort of conclusion.
But for Millard to continue this testing program he's gonna need us, the benefactors of this program to keep supporting it with donations. Im a little surprised by how few people have helped so far, so come on guys lets step it up, this is a game changer that we all benefit from!!
 
SO looks as if people saying pharmacom tren was underdosed were just lying.. it tested at 92 mg/ml...

@manafest what was literally *just* covered in the thread you left? Naps geneza line also had a positive test result yet has been caught red handed with improper products or quality standards.

I'm optimistic about pharmacom and this is really good news but for all that is good and pure in this world, we'd really benefit from you saying less. Your insults and opinions and vote of confidence mean less with each day... you're not helping.

You could have easily linked the positive result without stupidly declaring it as universal permanent proof of perfect tren and dismissing everyone

Let millard's testing program and users' lab results take its course without your moronic commentary from the sideline

http://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/...macom-labs-pharma-tren-a100-lab-test-results/

Glad it's not bunk. I actually still have some questions about those results though. They supposedly have a ms machine of their own... Why isn't everything dosed precisely? Maybe I'm tripping but if we tested some Watson cyp wouldn't it test at exactly 200mg/ml?

Don't get me wrong, I'm plenty happy with 92% dosed tren... Just trying to see if we're being lied to or if they are really mass specing all their raws.

No Watson would not always test at 200mg/ml. They are allowed a standard of error
Hey guys. I have just read this article. I would like to say that I completely trust these results, but I am totally disappointed with what I see. So, I am not a specialist in these chemical things, probably you could help to to clarify a couple of things.
1. 92 mg/ml - Does this HPLC detect trenbolone + acetate ester or is it the amount of pure trenbolone without ester?
2. Also does somebody know what is the testing inaccuracy? How many mg or %, is there any info about it?
Of coarse I will show this result to my boss, which will be also not happy to see it I am sure. But first I would like to clarify these 2 questions. I expected much more... and I personally consider this not as a pass... However I am not a chemist and not an ace in the production technology, so will transmit this test to my boss and other competent guys and expect their reply. If this is amount incl ester, this is not a pass for me. Will try to find out why. Also interested to see results in other vials. If there is someone in Europe with our tren and he is ready to send it to Simec per post, I will reimburse all expenses. Need more results.
If this is really 92 mg/ml tren ace, our equipment will be checked, our people will be checked and I promise to start production of 100 the full dosage in new batches. This is absolutely not what i was expecting to see. I admit, for me personally it looks like we fucked up here. However I need more info from our guys to make any final conclusions.
Till that moment i temporarily take 10% off for all tren ace in all three sections of our basicstero store. It would correspond to the actual amount of tren inside until things will be cleared.
 
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Hey guys. I have just read this article. I would like to say that I completely trust these results, but I am totally disappointed with what I see. So, I am not a specialist in these chemical things, probably you could help to to clarify a couple of things.
1. 92 mg/ml - Does this HPLC detect trenbolone + acetate ester or is it the amount of pure trenbolone without ester?
2. Also does somebody know what is the testing inaccuracy? How many mg or %, is there any info about it?
Of coarse I will show this result to my boss, which will be also not happy to see it I am sure. But first I would like to clarify these 2 questions. I expected much more... and I personally consider this not as a pass... However I am not a chemist, so will transmit this test to my boss and other competent guys and expect their reply. If this is amont incl ester, this is not a pass for me. Will try to find out why. Also interested to see results in other vials. If there is someone in Europe with our tren and he is ready to send it to Simec, I will reimburse all expenses. Need more results.
I like your attitude on this Frank, you could be here pounding your chest and saying ' i told you so' but instead your unhappy with 92%. This gives me a reason to stick around.
 
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