ironwill1951
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thank you .
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Interesting... Now who has the balls to send off a pack internationally lol let alone come on here and publicly state that they did so?Like you said maybe someone on here who ordered is in one of those countries. But, unfortunately I doubt it. Most of us here are from the good ol' US of A.
When I placed an order it took like four or five days to get tracking number. Then the pack came two days later. PM frank if you have a problem and maybe he can help you.
Ozzy619
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Lol some of his suggestions gave me a good laugh, unfortunately these arent very viable for the average guy.
johnnybravel22
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@biglumber69 so it took abiut a week total to get ur gear once u paid?
And u ordered international to the us?
Onky asking cuz im trying to figure a timeline
And u ordered international to the us?
Onky asking cuz im trying to figure a timeline
Nitrobuste
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I live in one of this countries and work in the other. I will try to contact the lab to find out what we can do.
Awesome man, keep us updated!
ironwill1951
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we are looking for a us based lab and as soon as we find one we will do a mass spec,
that will settle it to every ones satisfaction .
that will settle it to every ones satisfaction .
ChrisBchicken
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Hi Iron, I think he posted a U.S. Lab in another discussion. I can't remember where or I would copy/paste it over. Let me find it and I'll post it on here.
Bro I think you mean this one.
ChrisBchicken
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Thanks for that.
So I've been doing a little reading and I'd like for @OdieM to chime in if possible, but testing by any of the labs in the U.S. I likely not possible and I urge anyone trying to do this to proceed with extreme caution. It is my understanding that labs that can perform this testing in the U.S. must be registered with the DEA and FDA. They also are required to document and keep everything on file so that it IS traceable back to the origin. They can not accept illegal substances from anyone other than law enforcement or they are in violation of federal law. Also, even if they did accept the sample, the mass spec testing is virtually useless without a baseline comparison from a pharmaceutical grade sample. Again I am no expert and these are some things I found by researching around a bit. If anyone disagrees or anything I have said is incorrect, feel free to chime in. Stay safe boys!
OdieM
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You are 100% correct. Anyone who says different is a damn fool. I reseached for months and found a place in TX that would MS for me. I then discovered that they test it and compair it to a sample that was given to them by LE. If you are not LE and you send in a sample they will turn in your information to LE. There's no way to give them a false identity either. not unless you have fake name, credit card and a fake badge. Even then they still may investgate it. Now I have heard that Lab max will do it and they are out of the states so that would be an option
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Thanks brother! And yea, I still have yet to see someone run an MS test through labmax but I've been curious about it for a while. Sending a pack into Canada sketches me out though lol.
OdieM
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No problem. I'm sure there's guys that can MS it but they don't have the resources to get a legit sample of everything they would be testing. Therefore their test is BS.
Yeah I would like to see a lab Use Lab Max to MS myself. It's not worth me spending 350.00 to have a 50.00 vial MS but for a UGL it could generate 1000s for them by doing it.
I would be willing to donate 1cc of pharm grade cyp. to use as a baseline so we could at least have a baseline for cyp. But I'm sure there are quite a few people here who can do the same.
Just throwing it out there though.
No legitimate US lab will do MS on AAS. I understand where Frank is coming from regarding labmax testing and don't have enough knowledge on that subject to comment one way or another.
Having said all that, in my opinion Frank should speak to those in charge and pull a bottle of the two compounds in question directly off the production line and have them sent to one of the labs he referenced for MS analysis.
Will this prove anything about the vials that Flenser had questioned or anything about the product that anyone may have received to date, absolutely NOT. What it will prove is that concerns being expressed here by long time members are being looked into.
Pharmacom has clearly spent a lot promoting itself, this testing would not add much to that cost and I believe could potentially pay for itself many times over by showing the companies willingness to address concerns.
Assuming the MS tests confirms the substances are what they are supposed to be and also properly dosed and the test results are posted here for everyone to see it should increase the confidence of the members here and lead to increased sales.
If the MS doesn't come back good, bite the bullet and replace the product which has been sold or refund at the discretion of the customer. Given that every UGL is at the mercy of their raw providers, this would be understood by most and the fact that you acknowledged the error and corrected it would be viewed very favorably by those here.
Just my two cents worth.
Having said all that, in my opinion Frank should speak to those in charge and pull a bottle of the two compounds in question directly off the production line and have them sent to one of the labs he referenced for MS analysis.
Will this prove anything about the vials that Flenser had questioned or anything about the product that anyone may have received to date, absolutely NOT. What it will prove is that concerns being expressed here by long time members are being looked into.
Pharmacom has clearly spent a lot promoting itself, this testing would not add much to that cost and I believe could potentially pay for itself many times over by showing the companies willingness to address concerns.
Assuming the MS tests confirms the substances are what they are supposed to be and also properly dosed and the test results are posted here for everyone to see it should increase the confidence of the members here and lead to increased sales.
If the MS doesn't come back good, bite the bullet and replace the product which has been sold or refund at the discretion of the customer. Given that every UGL is at the mercy of their raw providers, this would be understood by most and the fact that you acknowledged the error and corrected it would be viewed very favorably by those here.
Just my two cents worth.
bmanstrong
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This si a very good idea
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