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i said in my previous post: ...there are pumps, which suck necessary amounts of the mass into the horses for further preparation...
:D:D:D preparation in horses... I wish nobody would try such gear... of course hoses were meant.
Thxs Frank ! saw that post from flenser on the other fourm. But having absolutely no vested interests in either yours and there labs gotta say this looks weak ass on your part man!! Dont think D would be resorting to these sad tactics.....just saying.

this is not about D and D probably does not know all these facts I know. I was all the time saying that our gear has high quality and never said anything about the gear of other companies. Once a short time ago I mentioned that there are sources which are all the time trying to ruin our reputation and even give pharma bribes to some people on different forums. Nodody trusted me. The story with this Vermodje floated to the surface on another board. What shall I do if forum members there accuse us and say Vermodje is better, at this in numerous threads. The same in Russia. What shall I do? Just let people be in ignorance? Sorry. I not a lot of things about different manufacturers. And a lot of dirty things happen in this business. However I do not discuss anybody and will not, until somebody tries to smirch us and Vermodje does it all the time, several years. They deliberately counterfeited our products with no gear inside. I provided evidences this time. I will never touch or say anything bad about people until they can be called people. Vermodje is beyond this border. You all just do not know the whole story and I will not touch it here. They did lot of dirty things against us. We never paid back and never will. But the truth had to come up also here.
 
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Well... I just screwed up and by chanse deleted the biggest part of the text here. I said before that if you read that thread carefully you will see that my discontent was directed not against flenser personally but against against all the guys which said that Vermodje is g2g, Vermodje is better, etc. I know what is Vermodje. They counterfeited our products and sold bunk oil and pills in phrmacom packages. There is a video with proves there. Vermodje`s mail box was hacked and all correspondence is seen there. They ordered caps and vials as ours, they had design of our packages. After that video Vermodje almost disappeared in Russia. And they moved to west countires where nobody knows about that story.
Vermodje also produces Radjay which is manifested to be an Indian manufacturer. Golden Drugon is also Vermodje. On site of Golden Drugon there is a video with production of their pills. One guy from Israel moved to Moldova and started to produce the same gear in new design. Here is the site:
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http://www.gd-pharm.com/
And here is the video

Looks not very impressive. The entire mass is in open air, nothing is closed. Just home brewers.No health preservation at all. And compare it with our production videos. I put them here again.
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In our videos the process of the mixing the entire pill mass is not shown, cause it is not seen from outside. All stuff is mixed in an absolutely closed vessel, there are pumps, which suck necessary amounts of the mass into the horses for further preparation, however the entire process is absolutely protected, vessels are closed so that no dust, etc gets inside. And what we see on this Vermodje-Golden Dragon video... If i read after this that Vermodje is g2g, great products, lot of members are stating this without any proves, just bunk words... this, the fact, that people just do not have all the info and absolutely don`t imagine what they are speaking about by praising these home brewers... of coarse it sets my teeth on edge, gets on my nerves, tell it how you want. People are just ignorant of the real state of the things. In fact no one lab posted any production videos and as many proves as we did. And there will be more. Next week there shall be a video with sterilization, after this ampules production, after this testing process on our chromatograph, etc. No one manufacturer provided as much evidences as we did. So excuse me that I begin to boil when someone without any background says that our products are worse as this homely brewed bullshit.

There are dozens of similar photos in Russian forums. However you will never see such things on Pharmacom products.
Some people are just intentionally ruing are reputation, the video proved it. Not only Vermodje does it, other manufacturers as well. Because they just now we are better, but have to proves of their quality to provide to the audience. So, yes I was and I am angry if somebody compares this bullshit with our products and mopreover says it is better.


Because we are not resellers, we are manufacturer and deliver directly from the factory.


All that expensive and fancy equipment and you still couldn't manage to sell legit primobolan. Strange, isn't it?
 
but darius uses other resellers that hehas had problems with. at least with basic you know its straight from the source and can be domestic. Wish some bloods would start rolling in though.

Yes but basic had domestic reseller/reshipper problems for the start. Read the thread. He said the team took off with all the gear. Now basic says he has new domestic team that's gtg.
 
And by the way, if you think just because you can get it straight from the manufacturer you are getting the best deal you would be ignorant. Basic isn't selling to hook bros up with all the better deals, they are in it for the money. Therefore they will set prices that are competitive and not much different than the rest of the market. Darius buys at wholesale YOU get it at retail.

Wasn't starting a passing contest at my company we work with the state a government make police lights a the cameras a the stop light the prices that are sold for are not what I pay for even when an order is for a reseller price won't change
An insider always has the better prices but your right there in it for the money
 
I think it cheaper with your wkm Just me I guess
Maybe you know something I don't. The only think I have heard of was the 20% off for Wkm. We're you able to price match basics international store price get an extra 5% and then get the 20% off on top of that. Cause even with that it's still 15% more. Unless I'm missing sonething here. I mean after the promo I don't see any reason to use basic or Darius. But till the end of the month it seemed cheaper.
 
Maybe you know something I don't. The only think I have heard of was the 20% off for Wkm. We're you able to price match basics international store price get an extra 5% and then get the 20% off on top of that. Cause even with that it's still 15% more. Unless I'm missing sonething here. I mean after the promo I don't see any reason to use basic or Darius. But till the end of the month it seemed cheaper.


I just took a look, it's what I bought was cheaper than basic its what I needed
Var is cheaper I can tell u that
Also I'm not the only member getting a price break
As long as no one.I'd getting dick around it's all the same
 
I do wanna say that in light of all the stupid shit basic is doing lately, that would be enough to sway me from him to Darius even if the price is higher.
 
I just took a look, it's what I bought was cheaper than basic its what I needed
Var is cheaper I can tell u that
Also I'm not the only member getting a price break
As long as no one.I'd getting dick around it's all the same
Darius has it for 99$ - 20% = 79$, basics is 65$. I'm not trying to push for basic I'm just trying to figure out what kind of deal you got.
 
Looks Like $150 sorry tried to get his quote from page 76
That's from his domestic resellers. They hack it up almost a 100$. Check out his actual internation store. Much cheaper. but like I said earlier if he didn't have the big sale I wouldn't go with basic over Darius. Honestly basic seems like a prick and Darius just seems disingenuously nice. Don't really care for either.
 
That's from his domestic resellers. They hack it up almost a 100$. Check out his actual internation store. Much cheaper. but like I said earlier if he didn't have the big sale I wouldn't go with basic over Darius. Honestly basic seems like a prick and Darius just seems disingenuously nice. Don't really care for either.

The bad shit with sources you always gotta have a back up and that back is usually more expensive
 
I said before that if you read that thread carefully you will see that my discontent was directed not against flenser personally but against against all the guys which said that Vermodje is g2g, Vermodje is better, etc.
You attacked me after I posted the failed labmax tests on THIS forum. @ironwill1951 proved you wrong (and labmax correct) when he had the samples mass spec'd, and yet you never posted a retraction.

I have a vial of YOUR primo straight from Darius that also failed labmax. If you want to pay for it, I will gladly send it to the lab for testing. I would test a sample from you as well, as long as you cover the cost for both tests. Just remember that if they are different you will have to explain why, not just to us, but to Darius as well.
 
Darius has it for 99$ - 20% = 79$, basics is 65$. I'm not trying to push for basic I'm just trying to figure out what kind of deal you got.
wish I would have known about the 20% discount from Darius. I just purchased a bunch of stuffon here so he knew I was from you so maybe some wonder why I believe we did message through personal message on here so he knew I was from you so maybe some confusion?
 
You attacked me after I posted the failed labmax tests on THIS forum. @ironwill1951 proved you wrong (and labmax correct) when he had the samples mass spec'd, and yet you never posted a retraction.

I have a vial of YOUR primo straight from Darius that also failed labmax. If you want to pay for it, I will gladly send it to the lab for testing. I would test a sample from you as well, as long as you cover the cost for both tests. Just remember that if they are different you will have to explain why, not just to us, but to Darius as well.

Isn't tren expensive as much as primo? So why the primo isn't legit? I don't fucking understand sometime :((

Test E was ok right? We should get a purity test on it to see if it's 300mg/ml or not.

Any chance to MS the test p?
 
wish I would have known about the 20% discount from Darius. I just purchased a bunch of stuffon here so he knew I was from you so maybe some wonder why I believe we did message through personal message on here so he knew I was from you so maybe some confusion?
Hey man, I'm pretty sure the 20% discount is for WKM's anyway, not for everyone...
 
Isn't tren expensive as much as primo? So why the primo isn't legit? I don't fucking understand sometime :((

Test E was ok right? We should get a purity test on it to see if it's 300mg/ml or not.

Any chance to MS the test p?
We don't have access to a lab that can provide accurate purity and concentration measurements.
 
Isn't tren expensive as much as primo? So why the primo isn't legit? I don't fucking understand sometime :((

Test E was ok right? We should get a purity test on it to see if it's 300mg/ml or not.

Any chance to MS the test p?
I'm nobody special, but IMO the best way to test the purity of testosterone, is by getting pre-mid-and post cycle bloodwork. Again, just my opinion...
 
Vermodje was 1 of 28 labs busted in 2014 in moldova for NOT complying with human GMP. Instead of upgrading like 16 other labs or shutdown. Vermodje was quoted as saying, "For a year we switched to the production of veterinary preparations. For them we have GMP certification." So Vermodje is veterinarian at best. Here's full article, but you'll need Google to translate.
http://m.adevarul.ro/moldova/actual...lor-gmp-1_532158220d133766a8db5cdc/index.html
 

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