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[Rookie89]

You guys sponsor Maryana Naumova ?

 

[PHL Official]

You think a US lab is going to video themselves illegally testing a vial of steroids?

Anyway, it doesn't matter what you accept or think. It only maters what your customers think. No one is asking you for replacements or for any other consideration. We all know you are selling bunk primo, and your dishonesty in dealing with that information reflects poorly on your company.

I think any lab is founded to test such substances and of coarse shall have respective authorities and for sure it shall furnish the results with all stamps, name of the tester, signature in other case what kind of lab is it, an ugl to which results nobody could trust as you don`t trust sources here.
If i was deceiving everyone we for sure would never have that amounts of orders we have. Do you know how new people come to us? We get a mail from a person that he wanna be our reseller. Our minimum bulk price list is 2000$ but we say to people that for the first time we can ship to them any product for any amount. They can do with it whatever they want, test in any way they want and if they will stay satisfied they can come back, if not, we can give the money for test orders back. After the test order is shipped within 1-2 month we get in 80% cases bigger bulk orders, say 2000$ and after this yet more. Today i agreed and handed over for proceeding a bulk order for east region for 200 000$. The guy started from the first order worth 250$ 9 month ago. Now this is his tenth order. By the way prima was also inside and tested before. I could easily publish here lot of messages, where people write to our email that our products are super and they wanna deal only with us now. In arabian countries biggest resellers refused to buy meditech, which was popular there after they tried our products. In any case my words now stay nothing more as just words and does not prove something for the most people here.
If you wanna proves, I said before, do real tests and provide real results. I am ready to pay for a test of any of our compounds under the following conditions.
1. you but it in our store! i don`t say that I ship a definite vial to you. It can be an anonymous order in our store within next week for example! or 2 weeks, dos not matter. But it shall be from our store.
2. any lab does it at lest photos of the vials before any test. so i need photos of this vials with the check code and also in results order number in our store.
3. proper test description and full results.
Official stamp of the lab, etc. I take all expenses. I also can compensate the expenses for the order placed. After the test is done of coarse , so that this all is anonymously.

If such results show that our product is bunk, i will accept this and admit officially here. In any case I am sure this will not happen more as I am sure in the fact that I am on Earth now.
These are absolutely just conditions how any test shall be performed. I ask for nothing out-of-the-way. Any test shall be performed like this, so just follow the right procedure, perform this test and I agree with its results and take all expenses. I even insist on this! Just to it and all contradictions will be solved.
In the meantime we are preparing our own independent tests as per all instructions to put an end to this.

 

[flenser]

lol

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Come on man. Keep this discussion on a fair level. We have seen many good reviews about pharmacom gear here. Lets give them a chance to solve the primo-problem.

He's not addressing the Primo issue, he's trying to discredit the tests - tests that he knew were being done and to which he consented. He doesn't like the results. TFB.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I think any lab is founded to test such substances and of coarse shall have respective authorities and for sure it shall furnish the results with all stamps, name of the tester, signature in other case what kind of lab is it, an ugl to which results nobody could trust as you don`t trust sources here.

An UGL like YOU, you mean. No lab in the US is legally allowed to do AAS assays. You already know that, of course, but using that argument sounds good, doesn't it?

If such results show that our product is bunk, i will accept this and admit officially here. In any case I am sure this will not happen more as I am sure in the fact that I am on Earth now.

Regardless of what YOU think, Flenser's mass specs will be taken as credible by ANYONE who matters on this forum. And that's certainly not you and your nut huggers. I am as sure of THAT fact as I am sure that I AM standing on the earth.

 

[PHL Official]

I feel like the only way this could happen is through working with Darius. His response to the issue versus this guy's response makes it perfectly clear who is willing to step up and make things right and who is just going to make excuses. These guys are totally different - one is a businessman and one is a child. The difference in the way these two responded to the primo problem speaks loud and clear gents

Child? Don`t try to judge people if you haven`t been in their skin and if you don`t know which way the company made, how many different situations, claims and backstabbings
got through. We have too many enemies. Darius is reseller, I am speaking here not as a reseller, but as company rep. The one and only official position of Pharmacom Labs after all situations we experienced within 10 years, which you are not aware of, is and can be - Pharmacom accepts and admits only proven lab tests in compliance with all respective conditions. Persons which really need such tests / our bulk customers perform them and can back to us satisfied. Pharmacom would not exist in other case.
There are always people unsatisfied with something and claiming us. This is in human nature. If we will have to try to prove something for everyone, this will be an eternal convirsation without any proves similar to the one which happens now. The company position is very similar: you state we produce fake, prove it with real facts so that any judge would agree. Provide proper chromatography. If it shows fake, we admit it, refund your money and start internal investigating. On this board i promised even to take all charges for such tests. This is all I could do. If someone thinks our gear is bank but has no evidences for it or believes in it based only on a couple of photos, just do not buy it, I force nobody. The practice shows only that after people try our product they come back.

You guys sponsor Maryana Naumova ?

I can/may not reply this question.

 

[PHL Official]

An UGL like YOU, you mean. No lab in the US is legally allowed to do AAS assays. You already know that, of course, but using that argument sounds good, doesn't it?



Regardless of what YOU think, Flenser's mass specs will be taken as credible by ANYONE who matters on this forum. And that's certainly not you and your nut huggers. I am as sure of THAT fact as I am sure that I AM standing on the earth.

I never said that this shall be a lab in the USA. There is also a big world outside of the states. If I remember right, Nitrobuste was talking something about trying to test the gear in a lab. We will take all expenses if he finds a decent lab and manages to perform such tests. There are lot of people here who could try to do this.
These controversies are absolutely about nothing until we see the real results. I would prefer to wait till we get them. If you don`t like our products, as you please, nobody forces you.

 

[Rookie89]

not sure I understand you, are you saying you may answer my question later or that you can't answer my question as to rather you sponsor Maryana Naumova ?
was Just wondering cause you have a picture of her on pg 1 under spoiler pharmacom athletes and pharmacom wear part 2.

 

[PHL Official]

not sure I understand you, are you saying you may answer my question later or that you can't answer my question as to rather you sponsor Maryana Naumova ?
was Just wondering cause you have a picture of her on pg 1 under spoiler pharmacom athletes and pharmacom wear part 2.

She is a very public and media person. I may not discuss such things at all.

 

[pmac928]

This thread makes me sick. pharmacom products are just like any other ugl except they have security codes. Big fucking deal.

 

[Rookie89]

Okay, no problem, I can understand that, but why would you add a picture of her than? would think that you would want to protect some of "your" Atheletes, especially someone of her status.
Not trying to imply anything or start a fight just made me a bit curious is all.

She is a very public and media person. I may not discuss such things at all.

 

[ironwill1951]

hold on now i am the one that received the primo , it was bunk not test not deca nothing close to a molecular weight of 611, flenser could not find anything over 400 , so what was it i dont know but im glad i did not inject it for 12 weeks,

Come on man. Keep this discussion on a fair level. We have seen many good reviews about pharmacom gear here. Lets give them a chance to solve the primo-problem.

 

[ironwill1951]

flenser and i just had a LC/MS done you asshole

I never said that this shall be a lab in the USA. There is also a big world outside of the states. If I remember right, Nitrobuste was talking something about trying to test the gear in a lab. We will take all expenses if he finds a decent lab and manages to perform such tests. There are lot of people here who could try to do this.
These controversies are absolutely about nothing until we see the real results. I would prefer to wait till we get them. If you don`t like our products, as you please, nobody forces you.

 

[ironwill1951]

i have been staying off this thread but i just plain and simply dont fucking like you ...

I never said that this shall be a lab in the USA. There is also a big world outside of the states. If I remember right, Nitrobuste was talking something about trying to test the gear in a lab. We will take all expenses if he finds a decent lab and manages to perform such tests. There are lot of people here who could try to do this.
These controversies are absolutely about nothing until we see the real results. I would prefer to wait till we get them. If you don`t like our products, as you please, nobody forces you.

 

[jabrel3]

I think any lab is founded to test such substances and of coarse shall have respective authorities and for sure it shall furnish the results with all stamps, name of the tester, signature in other case what kind of lab is it, an ugl to which results nobody could trust as you don`t trust sources here.
If i was deceiving everyone we for sure would never have that amounts of orders we have. Do you know how new people come to us? We get a mail from a person that he wanna be our reseller. Our minimum bulk price list is 2000$ but we say to people that for the first time we can ship to them any product for any amount. They can do with it whatever they want, test in any way they want and if they will stay satisfied they can come back, if not, we can give the money for test orders back. After the test order is shipped within 1-2 month we get in 80% cases bigger bulk orders, say 2000$ and after this yet more. Today i agreed and handed over for proceeding a bulk order for east region for 200 000$. The guy started from the first order worth 250$ 9 month ago. Now this is his tenth order. By the way prima was also inside and tested before. I could easily publish here lot of messages, where people write to our email that our products are super and they wanna deal only with us now. In arabian countries biggest resellers refused to buy meditech, which was popular there after they tried our products. In any case my words now stay nothing more as just words and does not prove something for the most people here.
If you wanna proves, I said before, do real tests and provide real results. I am ready to pay for a test of any of our compounds under the following conditions.
1. you but it in our store! i don`t say that I ship a definite vial to you. It can be an anonymous order in our store within next week for example! or 2 weeks, dos not matter. But it shall be from our store.
2. any lab does it at lest photos of the vials before any test. so i need photos of this vials with the check code and also in results order number in our store.
3. proper test description and full results.
Official stamp of the lab, etc. I take all expenses. I also can compensate the expenses for the order placed. After the test is done of coarse , so that this all is anonymously.

If such results show that our product is bunk, i will accept this and admit officially here. In any case I am sure this will not happen more as I am sure in the fact that I am on Earth now.
These are absolutely just conditions how any test shall be performed. I ask for nothing out-of-the-way. Any test shall be performed like this, so just follow the right procedure, perform this test and I agree with its results and take all expenses. I even insist on this! Just to it and all contradictions will be solved.
In the meantime we are preparing our own independent tests as per all instructions to put an end to this.

Dude, you just don't get it do you? YOUR MASS SPEC MEANS NOTHING!!

Let me ask you something, WHY in the FUCK would any of our members go through the hassle of faking mass spec tests to bring down a lab that we all want to provide us with good gear? GIVE ME ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON!!

NOW, why would a UGL the size of Pharmacom go through the hassle of producing fake mass specs or editing them? I can think of quite a few.

Any member here with half a brain knows this and is obviously going to only trust mass specs conducted by our members, even if they are not conducted exactly how Franky says they should be.

And of course what we think is what matters because WE are paying for your product! And if you sir had any idea how to run a business, you would see this and maybe help yourself a little bit.

 

[PHL Official]

hold on now i am the one that received the primo , it was bunk not test not deca nothing close to a molecular weight of 611, flenser could not find anything over 400 , so what was it i dont know but im glad i did not inject it for 12 weeks,

We tested our gear and I published here the results and the entire description and photos by the way, Dr. Jim asked some questions and required more complete info from us and lot of you agreed with him. Where are your results? Which equipment has been used? Please describe the preparation process. Hm? I have been asked for some details when I published results. I had at least any details and description. It would be fucking fair if you published this exactly in that form which was demanded from me here previously with all details. What i see there, only 2 pages from some substance. Or ... you know, I can give to our designer 10 hours and he will be able to photoshop lot of similar things... I find it even kind of funny.
So many negative things against us without any reliable proves last time... I impede someone very much...funny.

flenser and i just had a LC/MS done you asshole

Description, details, photos, full package for audience please.

i have been staying off this thread but i just plain and simply don't fucking like you ...

very valuable argument...You surprised me so much... not many people like the truth and those who says the truth.

 

[jabrel3]

We tested our gear and I published here the results and the entire description and photos by the way, Dr. Jim asked some questions and required more complete info from us and lot of you agreed with him. Where are your results? Which equipment has been used? Please describe the preparation process. Hm? I have been asked for some details when I published results. I had at least any details and description. It would be fucking fair if you published this exactly in that form which was demanded from me here previously with all details. What i see there, only 2 pages from some substance. Or ... you know, I can give to our designer 10 hours and he will be able to photoshop lot of similar things... I find it even kind of funny.
So many negative things against us without any reliable proves last time... I impede someone very much...funny.

Description, details, photos, full package for audience please.

very valuable argument...You surprised me so much... not many people like the truth and those who says the truth.

Hey buddy I think you ignored my post there ^ just saying I noticed [emoji4]

Oh fuck and you just admitted you have a guy who can and will photoshop mass spec results. Nice one bro.

 

[PHL Official]

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Dude, you just don't get it do you? YOUR MASS SPEC MEANS NOTHING!!

Let me ask you something, WHY in the FUCK would any of our members go through the hassle of faking mass spec tests to bring down a lab that we all want to provide us with good gear? GIVE ME ONE GOOD FUCKING REASON!!

If everything would be so easy...Reasons, there could be many reasons, this could be any mistake, nobody tested products bought directly from us, this could be any mistake or faulty performed spectrometry, i could impede some serious people... dozen of other reasons i do not have in mind now. If my specs means nothing for you here yours are the same for me until they are not proven. till not i only saw just 4 graphs and some pictures with color water. nothing else. if nobody has to hide, please perform a test with full description, pictures. if you do labmax tests, please do videos, where you open a new vial, break off the cap, etc. until that all test mean nothing for us as well. In our turn we are going to perform such tests. Believe or not everyone decides for himself. Every day more and more customers prefer and buy our products and I do not need any proves more. I am sitting here not because I am trying only to gain more money in any way. Nobody from this forum can buy anything in our store. I repeated this lot of times everyone is free to decide.

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And of course what we think is what matters because WE are paying for your product! And if you sir had any idea how to run a business, you would see this and maybe help yourself a little bit.

Really... please, don`t buy! If you think our gear is bullshit don`t and NEVER BUY IT! EVERYONE READING THIS, I BEG YOU UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES BUY OUR GEAR IF YOU HAVE ANY SMALLEST DOUBT THAT WE PRODUCE BULLSHIT!

Customers which prove our products on themselves can decide and make own conclusions. And come always back. All other persons like you, please go our products a mile away.

 

[ironwill1951]

keep running your mouth , your pushing more and more customers to darius...

 

[Flounder]

Really... please, don`t buy! If you think our gear is bullshit don`t and NEVER BUY IT! EVERYONE READING THIS, I BEG YOU UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES BUY OUR GEAR IF YOU HAVE ANY SMALLEST DOUBT THAT WE PRODUCE BULLSHIT!

Anyone interested in Pharmacom products, would you prefer to buy from someone like this? Or would you prefer to buy from Darius, who funded the mass spec testing that exposed the bunk Primo?
This guy wants to argue who, what, where, when and why of the testing, while Darius would pay for the testing and accept the results. Then Darius would do whatever needed to be done to rectify the situation. Do you think this guy will? I don't think so.