No, we can't. The way this Pharmacon clown has been dodging the mass specs with excuse after excuse, do you really think he's going to accept blood tests that are low? Of course, not. He'll reject blood tests with the same lame excuses - test wasn't performed properly, not video taped, subject wasn't really using Pharmacon gear, subject works for a competitor and is trying to discredit Pharmacon, etc., etc.
Unless the test shows the gear is good, that is. Then he'll accept the reading of tea leaves as long as makes his gear look good.
Please tell me who will use in next replies such words as - respect, he is disrespectful, etc? I never insulted here anyone. However last time I see only insults in my address at this from the same members all the time. Don`t decide please instead of other people, what they would do and what not. You play with words and say I will ignore all results. You try to set people against me saying that I will as well ignore blood work results, wheresas lot of times I asked to provide such results and stated in the very beginning that I give 100$ bonus to first 10 persons who publish blood works on cycle with testosterone ordered in our store. The same is written in the conditions threads of our store at all boards we are presented on.
Since our(members) failed mass spec results on the Primo are discredited. We should also discredit the mass spec of the Eq. that passed. Right
@Pharmacom Labs?
I state the same what I stated before. I do not know what are these results. I do not how they have been achieved. I even can not defend myself and provide any info to our technologist for possible explanation, because there is just no info, I know absolutely nothing about how both tests were done, on which equipment and in which conditions. How can I defend here If I don`t agree with the results and I just know I am right and if everything will be done as it shall all questions will be cleared. If members required from me proper essay, it is more as fair that I want to see the same approach from those unknown persons performing tests on other side. It is absolutely clear that conditions shall be equal for both sides. Now I see absolutely another attitude and aggression/insults in my direction only for the fact that I want to achieve these equal conditions and ask nothing more as has been asked from me all the time.
I never insulted someone here and this people are speaking about disrespect... Very interesting.
I agree with you bro. If my results will bad, I simply won't longer have to deal with them. That's all.
Bud, if your results on cycle with testosterone are not as they shall be it could mean only one thing, you are using fake Pharmacom, which is just impossible if you bought it in our store. However In Moldova I have seen wrong results which showed lower reference limit on our testosterone were as the same blood work made on the next day in another lab showed results through the roof. It is possible in Moldova, but I think such things never happen in the USA. I hope at least.
frank i figured out why i dislike you so much , i believe or at least hope that both
@flenser and i are trusted , well respected members , while you on the other hand are a drug dealer , trying to discredit the work we have done to try to help keep our meso brothers safe,
You know what, I never said that I disliked here somebody. Yes, I am new here. You are long time here. We are not in equal conditions. I have accounts in Moldavian and Russian forums where nobody knows me as Pharmacom rep and nobody knows at all that I work in Pharmacom and I am also trusted and very respectful person there. Interesting thing. And which is more interesting, if you had come to one of these forums, members would there attack you with all your results the same way as you attack me know. Just because Pharmacom is new for you but they now it as a brand with almost 10 years experience, hundreds of positive reviews, probably hundreds of blood work results with test level through the roof, etc.
I have absolutely nothing against you both guys, I am defending our brand, cause I know, that it is for sure g2g and the best what can be found on the steroids market now. But you don`t give me any chance to do it. You don`t trust my results because they are as you (not you personally, the board) say not enough and proper documented, described, done, etc. For the same reason I have a cause not to trust your results, which is absolutely fair. I do not know how all tests were done and respectively I am not able to explain occurred failure. But I just know that all our compounds have manifested amounts of manifested drugs. And to prove it i offered here lot of times and on other boards also a test products ordered directly from us
anonymously in an independent lab which would be done in compliance with all norms for test of such type. This is fair and this are equal conditions for both sides. I promised to take charges for this. But what have I heard in reply? Everyone can read it several pages above. Nobody would perform any tests as this clown demands... And people are accusing me in disrespect... I did not started this and dd not show any disrespect, I only asked for fair testing which has been demanded from me and in reply I have need insulted. This is what happened here in fact.
Yes you are long time here, everyone knows you here, I am new here and I am a rep but it absolutely does not change anything and does not cancel that fact that tests still shall be done properly. Not properly because you just said they are properly but properly because any expert could take the essay read it and evaluate it, what my people can not do. If Pharmacom would be pleaded guilty and the only evidences provided in a court were your diagram of the spec test and final photos with lab max tests, your arguments would be crashed down by any lawyer within several minutes.
You can dislike me as much as you want. All members here can join you and never buy Pharmacom, it will still not change the fact that I will try to defend the brand. However you don`t leave me any chance to do it fairly and now in fact you are admitting that you so much don`t like me cause I am just going on to state, that our products are exactly as manifested and not to calmly agree with you cause you are trusted here. Sorry, it is not sufficient for me, you can continue to dislike me further.
This guy loves to argue and is disrespectful. Saying if what we dont like what he has to say then buy from naps. Thats an excellent business model he has, Im sure pharmacom would be delighted to know how their rep acts so professionally. Youre absolutely right about him being a drug dealer, any real business man would never act like this. I think its time for this rep to leave meso.
Show me please, where I am disrespectful? Oh, yes, if being not in equal conditions not to agree with some members here only because I am new and they are known means to be disrespectful, yes, I admit, in this case I am disrespectful. However other people would reasonably consider this as a normal defending process in lack of any sufficient evidences or bad reviews. At this notice please being insulted I did not insulted anyone here.
Pharmacom knows and read this forum, I provide the links to my boss and he does respective conclusions. Any businessman would never act like how? Give me facts please. What did I do? Insisted on being in equal conditions and on fair tests? What do you have in fact against me? Facts.
what you really need to do is go to work for darius ,
perhaps he can teach you how to have mutual respect between you and your customers,
respect is important to me i do have respect for darius while i have none for you .
I wish you all would new the truth... Sorry, what can Darius teach me? How to screw up with resellers? Yes, different things happen, lot of bad things happened to me as a reseller. I had lost parcels, fully compensated them, I had seizures and also compensated them. I had hundreds of customers for this time with absolutely different problems: wrong filled addresses, lack of money, seizures, inquires for discounts without any obvious causes, etc, all of them have been solved in a proper way. I do not see any customers which stayed unsatisfied with how I deal and communicate personally with him. Show me such customers please. What you are saying now is nothing else as trials to make a semblance that I am a bad reseller without any due occasion or reason. So, stop exaggerating the things. At this I am here on the board mostly not as reseller but as company rep. All my business questions, customer problems, all things related to service I solve individually with each customer and exclusively in email or pm. Or here but only if some customers raise any unsubstantiated claims beforehand like Johny did it. I am reseller there, in e-mail, in PM and lead business, solve all customer problems personally there. And up to now as far as I can judge there are no customers unsatisfied how I deal with them. If I am wrong, these people can always leave their feedback and wishes, I said about this in the very beginning.
All my last replies here has nothing with me being a reseller, I replied as a company rep. Me and Darius are in a bit different positions. Darius is now aware about all things I am aware about. He has not as much info about the company as I have, he has not as much experience not as reseller but as company rep and he has not bumped into all the shit when competitors do absolutely dirty things to discredit the company.
Just to make it clear: all the time I replied here as a rep and will continue to repl (defend) all questions regarding the quality as a rep. We have no claims from customers, our raws are checked, we have absolutely nothing to worry about. Proper essays which will be available in a while will make the picture clear. My position here is absolutely steady. If customers want to speak with me as with a reseller they always can write an email and I will read it with due attention and reply. I did not have unsatisfied customers up to now. The most frequent question, which I get - where is the tracking number and I have already replied it here and explain each time to each customer individually if needed.
ironwill1951, here you are not my customer and I am not reseller here, I reply as a rep to you. You are set against me, dislike me and allow yourself unproper behavior with me, we both people first of all. Respect shall earned. Why shall I respect you if you started insulting me? Even despite this in fact I have shown nothing disrespectful to you let alone for all members here.
Actually I see always only the same usernames set and complaining against me. It tells me already a lot.
Guys, honestly all anyone has done is attack Frank and make a bunch of claims that have yet to be proven. He is from a different culture, which should be taken into account with how he responds.
Dr Jim was claiming the exact same things regarding Frank's mass specs, so it makes sense that he would respond the same way.
So far there have not been any negative bloods and the only failed lab max have come from Darius gear (from his questionable re-shipper).
I think everyone needs to drop their tren dosage, chill out and quit acting like little kids until FACTS come out regarding the potency of pharmacoms gear.
So far the reviews have been good except for one or two cases of DBOL.
Bloods should be posted soon according to a few people so let's save the bickering until then.
Thanks bro. I forgot about cultural things at all. If my way of speaking seem for everyone offensive, my excuses, I never insulted here anyone. And yes, you repeat the main idea I was trying to defend all the time, equal and fair conditions and reliable tests/essays. I would notice and underline it especially. Me was asking about this all the time, you repeated my ideas now, asked for facts and fair tests. Allegedly members here are interested in the same... The only thing I do not understand, why such fair wish desired by all members here is the following manner... Absolutely inadequate reaction on the most adequate post here on last pages...
Look dude, I know this is probably your first source and you think you've found the holy grail and everything is roses, but this isn't our first rodeo. We know what we're doing here so you new guys that are jumping in here with noob comments aren't helping anyone. Sit back and watch and you might learn something.
Why do you both shut him up? He only repeated the wish of members, athletes, people, which wanna wanna the truth!!!! He is not helping? All posts of you both here put together are much less useful as what he said. His words are absolutely fair. If they had been followed from the very beginning and only facts were published here there would be no 83 pages of milk and water and new members would not ask lot of times whether the source good or not.