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Frank open your eyes dude. I never said you have bunk gear. On the contrary your anavar from your store passed my LM test. Now when you start demanding our members conduct tests a certain way and discredit tests performed by people who have zero motive to falsify results...now we have a fucking problem.
 
keep running your mouth , your pushing more and more customers to darius...


Doesn't really matter. They still get money from Darius. :)

Anyway... I think we all
Need to calm down.

I would try to follow frank rules and do another MS fuck I would pay a part of it no problem. Following his demands at the fullest, then if it comes bunk... Oh well... We know what will
Happen.


If we can't find a lab that would make a pic of the vial, check code etc. papers with stamp bla bla bla. Then we'll just leave to everyone to decide to buy or not.

In the end is always a personal
Decision to where to get the gear.

One thing frank should understand... 90% of the ppl here are aggressive towards him etc. only because they were close to believe to have found the UGL, finally providing ppl with good gears. Ppl are pissed, they wanted hard to believe in pharmacom.

Because let's tell the truth, at the moment there isn't one lab that you could trust :(
 
keep running your mouth , your pushing more and more customers to darius...
Me and Darius work for the same company and if you so much care about the money the profit will in both cases go to the same company and the same people in general. I do not much care about the money. I do this cause I am fan of bodybuilding, I like to spend my time in respective communities and speak in real life with brothers which fully understand me and are in. I have been working out last almost 18 years, this is my life, I like this way and of coarse i looked for some good pharma and found it. I use it myself, have great results. I happen to find this company and got an opportunity to work here with nice people as compared against some bastards making this business dirty. I have seen with my own eyes how everything works and is made here. I use these products myself, professional athletes in various countries use our products, inclusive IFBB Pro athletes. I am here just to show people that there is good manufacturer producing good products in respectively proper conditions. If somebody does not trust our videos... hm... I have been told on another board that we just rented a lab for a while to show a small video... funny... So, if someone does not trust us, never buy from us and find something better. Nothing can be simpler.
My purpose was just to show people, athletes like myself, that there is a good gear, and to defend our reputation. If some people are here so naive to trust only to some color tests or a couple of graphs made under unknown conditions, please trust and never use our products. There will be always reasonable people with analytical way of thinking, which will make their own decisions, probably order and test. Such people are always welcome. All other, even this will be the entire board here, use a better gear, If you manage to find it.
And if you don`t like how I reply, this is only your problem.
 
i cant believe you said that , it will be a cold day in hell before i ever follow franks rules and follow his demands at the fullest .
i dont know you and i dont want to know you because you are a fool..

Doesn't really matter. They still get money from Darius. :)

Anyway... I think we all
Need to calm down.

I would try to follow frank rules and do another MS fuck I would pay a part of it no problem. Following his demands at the fullest, then if it comes bunk... Oh well... We know what will
Happen.


If we can't find a lab that would make a pic of the vial, check code etc. papers with stamp bla bla bla. Then we'll just leave to everyone to decide to buy or not.

In the end is always a personal
Decision to where to get the gear.

One thing frank should understand... 90% of the ppl here are aggressive towards him etc. only because they were close to believe to have found the UGL, finally providing ppl with good gears. Ppl are pissed, they wanted hard to believe in pharmacom.

Because let's tell the truth, at the moment there isn't one lab that you could trust :(
 
Me and Darius work for the same company and if you so much care about the money the profit will in both cases go to the same company and the same people in general. I do not much care about the money. I do this cause I am fan of bodybuilding, I like to spend my time in respective communities and speak in real life with brothers which fully understand me and are in. I have been working out last almost 18 years, this is my life, I like this way and of coarse i looked for some good pharma and found it. I use it myself, have great results. I happen to find this company and got an opportunity to work here with nice people as compared against some bastards making this business dirty. I have seen with my own eyes how everything works and is made here. I use these products myself, professional athletes in various countries use our products, inclusive IFBB Pro athletes. I am here just to show people that there is good manufacturer producing good products in respectively proper conditions. If somebody does not trust our videos... hm... I have been told on another board that we just rented a lab for a while to show a small video... funny... So, if someone does not trust us, never buy from us and find something better. Nothing can be simpler.
My purpose was just to show people, athletes like myself, that there is a good gear, and to defend our reputation. If some people are here so naive to trust only to some color tests or a couple of graphs made under unknown conditions, please trust and never use our products. There will be always reasonable people with analytical way of thinking, which will make their own decisions, probably order and test. Such people are always welcome. All other, even this will be the entire board here, use a better gear, If you manage to find it.
And if you don`t like how I reply, this is only your problem.
You do understand that Darius funded the mass spec testing and has accepted the results, while you just argue? Sorry to say, but you are making yourself look like the greedy ass that you are.
 
i am a carpenter we are alot alike i dont care about the money either i pound nails 12 hrs a day because i love building things,

Me and Darius work for the same company and if you so much care about the money the profit will in both cases go to the same company and the same people in general. I do not much care about the money. I do this cause I am fan of bodybuilding, I like to spend my time in respective communities and speak in real life with brothers which fully understand me and are in. I have been working out last almost 18 years, this is my life, I like this way and of coarse i looked for some good pharma and found it. I use it myself, have great results. I happen to find this company and got an opportunity to work here with nice people as compared against some bastards making this business dirty. I have seen with my own eyes how everything works and is made here. I use these products myself, professional athletes in various countries use our products, inclusive IFBB Pro athletes. I am here just to show people that there is good manufacturer producing good products in respectively proper conditions. If somebody does not trust our videos... hm... I have been told on another board that we just rented a lab for a while to show a small video... funny... So, if someone does not trust us, never buy from us and find something better. Nothing can be simpler.
My purpose was just to show people, athletes like myself, that there is a good gear, and to defend our reputation. If some people are here so naive to trust only to some color tests or a couple of graphs made under unknown conditions, please trust and never use our products. There will be always reasonable people with analytical way of thinking, which will make their own decisions, probably order and test. Such people are always welcome. All other, even this will be the entire board here, use a better gear, If you manage to find it.
And if you don`t like how I reply, this is only your problem.
 
Hey buddy I think you ignored my post there ^ just saying I noticed [emoji4]

Oh fuck and you just admitted you have a guy who can and will photoshop mass spec results. Nice one bro.
Sorry if i missed something, bud. I thought all is replied.
Anyone interested in Pharmacom products, would you prefer to buy from someone like this? Or would you prefer to buy from Darius, who funded the mass spec testing that exposed the bunk Primo?
This guy wants to argue who, what, where, when and why of the testing, while Darius would pay for the testing and accept the results. Then Darius would do whatever needed to be done to rectify the situation. Do you think this guy will? I don't think so.
What is the difference? The subject is not who is better me or Darius. We discuss the quality of products, which as you say are bunk, test p, prima, eq, what else failed this labmax testing. We both have products from the same factory.
Read my posts carefully, I stated i will take expenses for properly performed tests.

Frank open your eyes dude. I never said you have bunk gear. On the contrary your anavar from your store passed my LM test. Now when you start demanding our members conduct tests a certain way and discredit tests performed by people who have zero motive to falsify results...now we have a fucking problem.
and what can mean failed tests sorry? My experience and hundreds trials to discredit our company all the time of its existence made me as I am. I also do not trust any results which are acquainted in unknown conditions. I have seen lot of things, I have seen moderators of boards using our gear and stating it is good without any push from our side and in a while suddenly changing they mind and stating in publicity that our gear is bullshit and does not work at all. I have seen competing athletes which grown on our gear and after some time manifested that is is bullshit and there is something better, I have seen lot of such spec graphs made to fool people. So excuse me that I dare not to trust unreliably performed results.
i cant believe you said that , it will be a cold day in hell before i ever follow franks rules and follow his demands at the fullest .
i dont know you and i dont want to know you because you are a fool..
My rules? Why in this case Dr. JIM required from me all the procedure and why on the earth you are allowed not to follow it? My results? Open your eyes and read some documents how real tests shall be done. I asked for nothing supernatural. I asked only to observe a standard procedure, which has not been done.
 
Doesn't really matter. They still get money from Darius. :)

Anyway... I think we all
Need to calm down.

I would try to follow frank rules and do another MS fuck I would pay a part of it no problem. Following his demands at the fullest, then if it comes bunk... Oh well... We know what will
Happen.


If we can't find a lab that would make a pic of the vial, check code etc. papers with stamp bla bla bla. Then we'll just leave to everyone to decide to buy or not.

In the end is always a personal
Decision to where to get the gear.

One thing frank should understand... 90% of the ppl here are aggressive towards him etc. only because they were close to believe to have found the UGL, finally providing ppl with good gears. Ppl are pissed, they wanted hard to believe in pharmacom.

Because let's tell the truth, at the moment there isn't one lab that you could trust :(
My friend you are absolutely right. As I said, the rules are not mine, these are standard rules for lab testing. We will do these tests according to all rules I hope if no one can ... or for some reason does not want to do it. Believe or not everyone decides for himself.
If Pharmacom had some products not as manifested it would be noticed for years our our existence.
As for 90% of people which want to believe... I have not seen any, at least one post here that our products did not give him results he was waiting. I have never read here any disappointing, etc. I mean reviews based on own experience of people. Everyone who used it received what he was waiting for if his nutrition was respective. So... Victor please tell me about what do we speak if there is actually no bad reviews and if you look other boards and logs you will see satisfied people. Explain me please why people shall be disappointed... the only reason for this is some tests with doubtful results.
I am speaking now even not as PL rep but as a user of their products. For years I had only one strange case with Pharmacom, my sister used sibutramine and there was ho hunger suppression as she hoped. I do not know why. All I personally used was fully working and I received always great results. If I used masteron, it helped to get more relief and hardness and keep muscles by doing lot of cardio, if I used boldenone, I had hunger and crazy veins seen, If i used mix 6 I had the fastest and best in quality muscle increase I ever had even considering my experience. So why I as a customer shall be disappointed...Of coarse I will believe to my feelings, crazy libido and blood tests and not to some labmax test of test p which failed. I am estimating this situation as user and I do not see any reason to be disappointed in this gear at all. Additionally to this I have seen how this all is produced and manufactured and after this a have no doubts at all. So anyone can say here whatever he wants. I believe better to my results and eyes.
 
You do understand that Darius funded the mass spec testing and has accepted the results, while you just argue? Sorry to say, but you are making yourself look like the greedy ass that you are.
You don`t understand that Darius have not seen the full production cycle. First of all I have not read his thread and all other threads, so I do not know what is discussed there and what Darius said. He just did not see the production process and I did lot of times. And I saw live raws testings. And there will be video with it as well. I asked technologist to do it and he agreed under some conditions. And yes I object that our prima is not prima. Even if the equipment measured everything right, this result is possible if for some reason there was tested another substance, another vial, not Pharmacom Prima or if somebody screw up the tests. Because I am 100% sure in our guys, sure not for anyone here, sure for myself. If anyone does not trust us, I said, please do not trust and make respective conclusions for yourself.
you dont seem to understand you are just another drug dealer , we are the customers that you make money off you sure as hell dont call the shots .. at least not with me , i am done bickering its not at all my style.
You don`t understand that I am writing here not as reseller, but as Pharmacom rep. You can buy in my store, you can buy from pharmacomstore, you can buy from muscledevelop, this is absolutely not about to buy from me or not and I even do not think about it at all. If you don`t like hour products, you can buy naps, anything you find good. I just wanted to let people know there is a company with good products, which receives all the time in 90% only positive reviews. All other 10% are from users which just don`t know how to administer steroids and what to expect from them or are bribed by our competitors which are trying to drown us all the time.
 
I'm not taking sides however...Frank does have a good valid point on the fact that Dr.jim always brings the Fact that the MS have to be done correctly and most that do it are done incorrectly...So if the MS that were done on the Pharmacon aas proved the product to be negative..what type of MS were done and were they done correctly? Has DR.jim seen and approved the method used since most believe hes holds the most knowledge on that type of testing...
 
Too much words and outrage. Friends, we can wait some blood tests. If we'll see the bad results of the blood tests, it is possible to draw conclusions. Be patient and don't attack a man like animals. Maybe he doing something wrong, but he communicates with us properly.
 
Too much words and outrage. Friends, we can wait some blood tests. If we'll see the bad results of the blood tests, it is possible to draw conclusions. Be patient and don't attack a man like animals. Maybe he doing something wrong, but he communicates with us properly.


No, we can't. The way this Pharmacon clown has been dodging the mass specs with excuse after excuse, do you really think he's going to accept blood tests that are low? Of course, not. He'll reject blood tests with the same lame excuses - test wasn't performed properly, not video taped, subject wasn't really using Pharmacon gear, subject works for a competitor and is trying to discredit Pharmacon, etc., etc.

Unless the test shows the gear is good, that is. Then he'll accept the reading of tea leaves as long as makes his gear look good.
 
No, we can't. The way this Pharmacon clown has been dodging the mass specs with excuse after excuse, do you really think he's going to accept blood tests that are low? Of course, not. He'll reject blood tests with the same lame excuses - test wasn't performed properly, not video taped, subject wasn't really using Pharmacon gear, subject works for a competitor and is trying to discredit Pharmacon, etc., etc.

Unless the test shows the gear is good, that is. Then he'll accept the reading of tea leaves as long as makes his gear look good.

Since our(members) failed mass spec results on the Primo are discredited. We should also discredit the mass spec of the Eq. that passed. Right @Pharmacom Labs?
 
I'm not taking sides however...Frank does have a good valid point on the fact that Dr.jim always brings the Fact that the MS have to be done correctly and most that do it are done incorrectly...So if the MS that were done on the Pharmacon aas proved the product to be negative..what type of MS were done and were they done correctly? Has DR.jim seen and approved the method used since most believe hes holds the most knowledge on that type of testing...
Mass spec to rule out the presence of a substance is considerably easier than confirming the presence and concentration of one. In any case, the primo in question has only failed a labmax test so far. It will soon be headed to the lab for mass spec.

If those results confirm the labmax test, you will just have to decide for yourself whether we are being honest or trying to ruin his company as he claims. There won't be any family pics posted of lab techs popping the cap on a pharmacom primo vial. That I can promise.
 
No, we can't. The way this Pharmacon clown has been dodging the mass specs with excuse after excuse, do you really think he's going to accept blood tests that are low? Of course, not. He'll reject blood tests with the same lame excuses - test wasn't performed properly, not video taped, subject wasn't really using Pharmacon gear, subject works for a competitor and is trying to discredit Pharmacon, etc., etc.

Unless the test shows the gear is good, that is. Then he'll accept the reading of tea leaves as long as makes his gear look good.
I agree with you bro. If my results will bad, I simply won't longer have to deal with them. That's all.
 
frank i figured out why i dislike you so much , i believe or at least hope that both @flenser and i are trusted , well respected members , while you on the other hand are a drug dealer , trying to discredit the work we have done to try to help keep our meso brothers safe,

This guy loves to argue and is disrespectful. Saying if what we dont like what he has to say then buy from naps. Thats an excellent business model he has, Im sure pharmacom would be delighted to know how their rep acts so professionally. Youre absolutely right about him being a drug dealer, any real business man would never act like this. I think its time for this rep to leave meso.
 
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