Awesome so I can get sum test for my dog!!!
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johnnyrotten94
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Lol^^^^^
Interesting because Darius posted several times that there have never been counterfeited pharmacom products....Well... I just screwed up and by chanse deleted the biggest part of the text here. I said before that if you read that thread carefully you will see that my discontent was directed not against flenser personally but against against all the guys which said that Vermodje is g2g, Vermodje is better, etc. I know what is Vermodje. They counterfeited our products and sold bunk oil and pills in phrmacom packages. There is a video with proves there. Vermodje`s mail box was hacked and all correspondence is seen there. They ordered caps and vials as ours, they had design of our packages. After that video Vermodje almost disappeared in Russia. And they moved to west countires where nobody knows about that story.
Vermodje also produces Radjay which is manifested to be an Indian manufacturer. Golden Drugon is also Vermodje. On site of Golden Drugon there is a video with production of their pills. One guy from Israel moved to Moldova and started to produce the same gear in new design. Here is the site:
And here is the videoCode:http://www.gd-pharm.com/
Looks not very impressive. The entire mass is in open air, nothing is closed. Just home brewers.No health preservation at all. And compare it with our production videos. I put them here again.
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In our videos the process of the mixing the entire pill mass is not shown, cause it is not seen from outside. All stuff is mixed in an absolutely closed vessel, there are pumps, which suck necessary amounts of the mass into the horses for further preparation, however the entire process is absolutely protected, vessels are closed so that no dust, etc gets inside. And what we see on this Vermodje-Golden Dragon video... If i read after this that Vermodje is g2g, great products, lot of members are stating this without any proves, just bunk words... this, the fact, that people just do not have all the info and absolutely don`t imagine what they are speaking about by praising these home brewers... of coarse it sets my teeth on edge, gets on my nerves, tell it how you want. People are just ignorant of the real state of the things. In fact no one lab posted any production videos and as many proves as we did. And there will be more. Next week there shall be a video with sterilization, after this ampules production, after this testing process on our chromatograph, etc. No one manufacturer provided as much evidences as we did. So excuse me that I begin to boil when someone without any background says that our products are worse as this homely brewed bullshit.
There are dozens of similar photos in Russian forums. However you will never see such things on Pharmacom products.
Some people are just intentionally ruing are reputation, the video proved it. Not only Vermodje does it, other manufacturers as well. Because they just now we are better, but have to proves of their quality to provide to the audience. So, yes I was and I am angry if somebody compares this bullshit with our products and mopreover says it is better.
Because we are not resellers, we are manufacturer and deliver directly from the factory.
Nitrobuste
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With all this equipment we have a heap of orders daily and virtually every other day I add items into stock in our international store. Our primobolan is promobolan. Soon there will be test results from a lab, in about 1 month. Such things are organized not so fast. It needs time till the postal service delivers the parcel with all compounds, till all tests are done, till essays are written. In any case you will see the results here in a while.
Darius works in Europe. He has never worked in CIS countries and Russia and the main battle happened there, where Vermodje fucked up.
Darius may even not be aware about this. These counterfeits were for packages with old design. This is on of the main reasons why we redesigned our products and implemented check codes on vials. After this no counterfeit cases have been reported indeed.
Promobolin, not Primobolin? Is Promobolin whatever that crap was that had a molecular weight of 611?
The test was already done - Flenser posted the results this week. Guess what? Like EVERY other UGL, your Promobolin Primobolin was BUNK.
Nice to see you paint yourself into a corner. You just admitted there is NO chance the Promobolin Primobolin that was tested is counterfeit.
Nitrobuste
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Im still waiting for statement about the primo MS. Be it from Darius or from basic.
I was just a typo. I still have not seen any video where our vial with our check codes, labels is divinely seen and the process is shown. If such tests are performed they shall be as minimum fully fixed on video like here.
However even so this test stays still not reliable. If someone does something like this he shall do it properly at least.
There you have it! Despite Pharmacon's requests to "test Pharmacon's gear," Pharmacon has just made it clear that he will never accept testing when the results are bad.
It was a mass spec, not Labmax. And it WAS done properly, so it stays reliable. Your Promobolin Primobolan is GARBAGE. Deal with it.
Thanks for proving you're as full of shit as every other UGL. What a joke.
I am responsible for what I am saying, however I am not responsible for what other people hear. I never admitted anything related to these tests. I just said since we implemented checkcode there have been reported no counterfeits. Which means we are not aware about such cases and nobody reported any proven cases of counterfeit. However we receive every day questions, my package with anavar is fake, i checked batch code and your site says it is fake, I do not feel any increase in my libido on your test e, however I inject it already 2 weeks. It is fake, etc. Such complaints absolutely does not mean this is fake. This was all I said. And read my post above. Show me please a similar video with our vial ant this test.
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You think a US lab is going to video themselves illegally testing a vial of steroids?
Anyway, it doesn't matter what you accept or think. It only maters what your customers think. No one is asking you for replacements or for any other consideration. We all know you are selling bunk primo, and your dishonesty in dealing with that information reflects poorly on your company.
Emmmm there is a MASS SPEC test done
You probably didn't notice it.
They mass specced the primobolan and it came out bunk.
For the record, the mass spec done may be on a mis-labled vial, so something besides the primo is also bunk. However, the second labmax test on the new (and properly labled) primo returned a similar failed results as the first. I offered to have it mass spec'd at PL's expense, but he didn't respond. We are probably going to do it anyway.
RGR!!
Emmmm there is a MASS SPEC test done
You probably didn't notice it.
They mass specced the primobolan and it came out bunk.
I have not seen a mass spec. Well.. I have seen on that forum only one pdf file with a graph and nothing more. Which lab has done it? How can I know that it was done by a qualified person? What was the procedure? Where are photos, photo of a check code from it... nothing. I am not trying to attack and say this absolutely calmly, but such things shall be done properly.
I did not notice any offer to take expenses for tests, probably I read this thread not with the due attention, my guilt, I do lot of other things simultaneously now. We are already negotiating with an independent lab is Switzerland to send them the vials, which will be sent not from us but from one of our biggest resellers in Europe, which means he has already bought them and that is a regular batch as all other customer receive.
Even if I agree to pay for some tests these shall be tests done as I described and with full procedure description, name of the qualified laboratory tester, signature, stamp of the lab etc. If somebody has this opportunity we can discuss this further.
Nothing but excuses! Your Primo is garbage. You don't do in-house testing like you claim, you receive the same Chinese tested (IOW untested) raws as all UGLs, and your videos are staged. Your product quality is nothing special. You are a typical UGL who is selling products of dubious quality, only you sell your gear at outrageous , PREMIUM prices.
I can repeat this hundred times. I have absolutely nothing against tests. If tests are done properly and each of members sees how they have been done. Up to now i saw here only 2 photos of ampules with different colors and some graph. Nothing more. If you would go with such results to a court no one judge would accept this as reliable results. No one. Why shall I. I am sure in a while I will provide different and as compared against these absolutely full described results. Of coarse I will not believe any of similar tests If the products are made in my eyes and I personally see how they are tested and produced. Why shall I not trust my eyes but believe some shady photos.
Nitrobuste
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Come on man. Keep this discussion on a fair level. We have seen many good reviews about pharmacom gear here. Lets give them a chance to solve the primo-problem.
cyclone268
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I feel like the only way this could happen is through working with Darius. His response to the issue versus this guy's response makes it perfectly clear who is willing to step up and make things right and who is just going to make excuses. These guys are totally different - one is a businessman and one is a child. The difference in the way these two responded to the primo problem speaks loud and clear gents
So what about their other products? Are they legit? Saw the threads, but with you being respectable i like to know. Ty sir.
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