Post Show Rebound Log

Juicestin

Member
What’s up everybody?!

I just competed in my first bodybuilding show on Saturday 8/24/19 and the whole journey was a phenomenal experience. I won the open Lightweight class, weighing in at 154.1#, and my coach and I were very proud of and pleased with the package we brought to the stage. I logged my entire prep for the show on MESO as well and having the community as a resource for feedback and to hold me accountable was invaluable so i plan to log all my bodybuilding ventures on MESO going forward.
I was 170.7# the Saturday before the show, 8/17/19, and have returned to 171.1# this Saturday 8/31/19. Since the final week’s weight loss was essentially all due to the water and sodium depletion, my coach and I expected that weight to return within a week now that I’m hydrating and salting normally and the diuretics were removed.
This log will follow the same format as my prep log with weekly updates that include progress pictures, weight change, a general review of the positives and negatives that occurred during the week, how we addressed any obstacles that arose, and any adjustments we make to any aspect of the protocol for the upcoming week, as well as a daily training log. I’ll be thorough and detailed with all aspects of the log and criticism, advice, questions, and suggestions are always welcome.
After the show Saturday night and all day Sunday I ate whatever I wanted and basically had all the foods I’ve really been craving - wings, French toast, bacon, pizza, movie theater snacks, bbq with mashed potato, chocolate, and cookies. I returned to my normal 45 minute fasted cardio session on Sunday morning to help flush some water. Also, I began a taper off the clenbuterol and the thiazide the day after the show and they went as follows:
Clenbuterol Taper
8/25/19: 62.5 mcg (37.5 mcg upon waking, 25 mcg 6-8 hours later)
8/26/19: 50 mcg (25 mcg upon waking, 25 mcg 6-8 hours later)
8/27/19: 37.5 mcg (25 mcg upon waking, 12.5 mcg 6-8 hours later)
8/28/19: 25 mcg (12.5 mcg upon waking, 12.5 mcg 6-8 hours later)
8/29/19: 12.5 mcg (12.5 mcg upon waking)
Thiazide Taper
8/25/19: 37.5 mg (12.5 mg Meal 1, 12.5 mg Meal 3, 12.5 mg Meal 6)
8/26/19: 25 mg (12.5 mg Meal 1, 12.5 mg Meal 3)
8/27/19: 12.5 mcg (12.5 mg Meal 1)
I began my rebound protocol on Monday 8/26/19. Cardio will remain the same as it was for the majority of my prep at 45 mins fasted 6x per week for at least the first 2 weeks post show to help control the water rebound, minimize fat gain, and keep the metabolism running high. We’ll slowly reduce cardio over the course of the rebound but I always perform some cardio year round for general health purposes and to keep my metabolism running high. Cardio will be almost exclusively performed on the incline treadmill but I’ll throw in some outdoor walks as well when the weather is nice and I feel like i need a break from the monotony of the hamster wheel lol.
Regarding training, I’m moving from a push, pull, legs split to a split that hits the whole body in 4 days with a rest day on the 5th. My rebound training split is as follows:
Day 1: Heavy Chest and Pump Triceps
Day 2: Heavy Back and Pump Biceps
Day 3: Heavy Shoulders and Heavy Traps
Day 4: Thighs and Calves; Quad Focus
Day 5: OFF; Abs with cardio
Day 6: Pump Chest and Heavy Triceps
Day 7: Pump Back and Heavy Biceps
Day 8: Pump Shoulders and Pump Traps
Day 9: Thighs and Calves; Hamstring and Glute focus
Day 10: OFF; Abs with cardio
The pump workouts and heavy workouts can be swapped if I feel it’s necessary for optimal growth - for example, if I feel like my shoulders aren’t going to be able to push maximal weights after heavy chest and heavy back work then I can move the pump shoulder and trap workout in and save the heavy shoulder and trap workout for day 8. Also, we’re not writing it in to the plan, but there is the option of a rest day after day 2 and/or day 7 if I feel that I really need it to have effective workouts. We want every workout during the rebound to promote hypertrophy and we feel that additional rest can be more beneficial then additional workouts if the workouts are intense enough to necessitate additional recovery. Concerning leg training, although Day 4 is a quad focused training session and day 9 is a hamstring and glute focused training session, there will be some hamstring and glute training performed on day 4 and some quad training performed on day 9. That sums up the training protocol.
Concerning Nutrition, I will be less stringent and enjoy myself more now that the contest prep is complete, however, I will still adhere to a set diet for the majority of my meals. This will also be where the majority of adjustments occur during the rebound phase since we will want to increase my caloric intake throughout this phase to ensure we keep the gains coming. To start, we basically took the high day menu from my contest prep and added 500 calories of mostly carbs and a little bit of fat to it and left protein where it was since it’s already at about 2.5 grams per lb of bodyweight. We also expect to have 3-5 cheat meals per week. My initial rebound protocol macro profile is as follows: 4,185 cals, 85 F, 432 C, 423 P.
Supplementation is going to be basically the same as it was during prep with the addition of intraworkout carbs. Upon waking with my lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, and baking soda drink i take a 1 billion CFU probiotic. Then, with meal 1, I take 3 g Vit C, 3000 IU Vit D, 400 IU Vit E, (1) B Complex, (1) Super K, 4 g Fish Oil, (2) Curcumin, (2) Citrus Bergamot, (2) Astragalus, and 400 mg Milk Thistle. During my workouts, I sip a shake that contains 15 g EAA, 10 g creatine, 15 g glutamine, 1.5 g l-Carnitine, 10 g hydrolyzed casein, and 25 g cyclic dextrin. With meal 6 I take 3 g Vit C, 3000 IU Vit D, 4 g Fish Oil, (2) Astragalus, and 400 mg Milk Thistle. Finally, before bed I have a shake containing a superfood supplement (project AD grazed) and 20 g of fiber from psyillium husk. That covers the supplementation protocol.
And last is the PED protocol. We are going to keep running a similar cycle for the first 3 weeks of the rebound with a couple adjustments. We’re removing the Halotestin, reducing Winstrol to 50 mg daily from 75 mg daily, and reducing Tren and masteron to 400 mg weekly from 500 mg weekly. To complete the rebound, we’re going to move to wet compounds. The theory behind this protocol is to minimize water retention when I’m most sensitive to it post show then once my body has balanced out we’ll implement the aromatizing mass builders to pack on as much size as possible. We’ll be front loading the EQ to get as much out of it as possible since we’re running it for such a short time. Finally, GH is being reduced from 4 ius to 5 ius daily. The full rebound protocol is as follows:
Weeks 1 - 3 (8/26/19 - 9/15/19)
1000 mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (250 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
400 mg Trenbolone Acetate per week (100 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
400 mg Drostanolone Propionate per week (100 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
400 mg Methenolone Enanthate per week (100 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
50 mg Winstrol per day (25 mg with meal 1, 25 mg pre-workout)
50 mg Proviron per day (25 mg with meal 1, 25 mg pre-workout)
4 iu Growth Hormone (2 iu upon waking, 2 iu pre-workout)
25 mg Aromasin every other day for first week; 12.5 mg - 25 mg Aromasin every other day from second week forward (determined by water retention, sex drive, etc.)
Weeks 4 - 6 (9/16/19 - 10/6/19)
1000 mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (250 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
800 mg Boldenone Undeclynate per week (200 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
500 mg Nandrolone PhenylPropionate per week (125 mg M, W, Th, Sa)
50 mg Dianabol per day for first 12 days, 75 mg Dianbol per day for last 9 days (25 mg with meal 1, 25 mg pre-workout for first 12 days; 25 mg with meal 1, 25 mg pre-workout, 25 mg with final meal for final 9 days)
4 iu Growth Hormone (2 iu upon waking, 2 iu pre-workout)
12.5 mg - 25 mg Aromasin every other day (determined by water retention, sex drive, etc.)
That sums up the entire rebound protocol. I’m looking forward to making some significant gains over the next few weeks and also looking forward to balancing out from the excessive water retention I’ve been experiencing the past week. I’ll be following up this introduction with my training logs for the past week then the first physique update from this weekend. Looking forward to hearing some feedback on the protocols and would love to hear the post show rebound experiences of other members!

-Juicestin
 
Monday August 26th
45 Min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.5 incline
815 am - 9 am

CHEST AND TRICEPS
Start: 730 pm
CHEST
1. Incline Smith Machine Press - Warmup: 25# PS 1x15, 45# PS 1x12, 70# PS 1x10; Working: 90# PS 1x6, 1x5, 70# PS 1x11, 1x9
2. Seated Pin Loaded Hammer Strength Chest Press - 135# 1x10, 145# 1x10, 155#
1x10, 165# 1x11
3. Incline Cable Fly - 35# 1x15, 40# 1x15, 45# 1x15, 50# 1x12
4. Hammer Strength Plate Loaded Incline Press - 45# PS 1x9, 1x9, 35# PS 1x11, 1x12
TRICEPS
1. Rope pressdown - Warmup: 35# 1x15; Working: 42.5# 1x12, 50# 1x12, 55# 1x12
2. Incline Overhead EZ Bar Extension - 60# 1x12, 70# 1x12, 80# 1x8
3. Unilateral Cable Kickback w/ straight handle - 10# 3x12
4. Hammer Strength Pin Loaded parallel triceps Extension - 20# PS 1x15, 30# PS 1x15, 40# PS 1x15
Finish: 855 pm
 
Tuesday August 27th
45 Min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.5 incline
740 am - 825 am

BACK AND BICEPS
Start: 525 pm
BACK
1. Deadlift - Warmup: 135# 1x10, 225# 1x6; Working: 315# 1x6, 335# 1x6, 355# 1x6
2. Dumbbell Rows - 80s 1x10, 90s 1x10, 100# 1x10
3. Medium MAG Grip Lat Pulldowns - 100# 1x12, 120# 1x12, 140# 1x12, 150# 1x10
4. Chest Supported Plate Loaded Row -
70# 1x10, 80# 1x10, 85# 1x10, 90# 1x10
5. Hammer Strength Plate Loaded Pullovers - 50# PS 1x12, 60# PS 1x12, 65# PS 1x11
BICEPS
1. EZ Bar Close Grip Preacher Curls - Warmup: 30# 1x15; Working: 40# 1x12, 50# 1x12, 60# 1x8
2. Alternating Dumbbell Curls - 35s 1x10, 40s 1x10, 45s 1x8
3. Seated Incline Cable Curls - 30# 1x15, 35# 1x15, 40# 1x13
4. Alternating Dumbbell Hammer Curls -
30s 1x12, 35s 1x12, 40s 1x12
Finish: 710 pm
 
Wednesday August 28th
45 Min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.5 incline
715 am - 8 am

SHOULDERS AND TRAPS
Start: 515 pm
SHOULDERS
1. Seated Overhead Barbell Press - Warmup: 2.5# Rotator cuff warmupsx2
Bar 1x15, 65# 1x12, 85# 1x10; Working: 100# 1x10, 115# 1x10, 125# 1x10, 135#
1x10
2. Seated Dumbbell Lateral Raise - 20s 1x12, 25s 1x12, 30s 1x12
3. Seated Incline Straight Bar Front Raise - 20# 1x12, 30# 1x12, 40# 1x10
4. Seated Bent Over Dumbbell Rear Delt Fly - 30s 1x12, 40s 1x12, 45s 1x10
5. Unilateral Cable Behind the Back Side Raise - 10# 1x12, 5# 2x15
TRAPS
1. Barbell Shrugs - 185# 1x15, 225# 1x15, 255# 1x15, 275# 1x15
2. Dumbbell Shrugs - 90s 1x20, 100s 1x20, 110s 1x20
Finish: 635 pm
 
Thursday August 29th
45 Min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.5 incline
715 am - 8 am

THIGHS AND CALVES, QUAD FOCUS
Start: 505 pm
THIGHS - QUAD FOCUS
1. Quad Extension - 100# 1x15, 130# 1x15, 145# 1x15, 160# 1x15
2. Safety Squat - Warmup: Bar 1x12, 115# 1x10; Working: 155# 1x10, 175# 1x10, 195# 1x8, 205# 1x6
3. Close Stance Hack Squat - 90# PS, 1x12, 115# PS 1x12, 135# PS 1x12, 145# PS 1x10
4. Low and close stance leg press - 180# PS 1x15, 205# PS 1x15, 225# PS 1x15, 250# PS 1x15
5. Quad Extension - 130# 1x12, 100# 1x17, 1x19
HAMSTRINGS
1. Lying Hamstring Curl - FST 7: 100# 7x15
CALVES
1. Pin Loaded standing calf raise -Warmup: 150# 1x15; Working: 170# 1x15, 190# 1x15, 210# 1x15, 230# 1x15
2. Nitro Linear Calf Raise - FST 7: 140# 7x15
Finish: 650 pm
 
Dam that is quite a lot of vitamins and supplements. Labdoor tests probiotics for some good stuff. I just looked. I was ripped off on the first kind I got and got better stuff. Actually you can culture your own. I like it.

Do you feel "better or more alert" when taking all those supplements? I actually get a headache sometimes when I do. So I came off everything.

Edite- you can check labdoor to see if your supplements are legit and testing right. Some of the stuff that is advirtsied is serverly off.
 
Dam that is quite a lot of vitamins and supplements. Labdoor tests probiotics for some good stuff. I just looked. I was ripped off on the first kind I got and got better stuff. Actually you can culture your own. I like it.

Do you feel "better or more alert" when taking all those supplements? I actually get a headache sometimes when I do. So I came off everything.

Edite- you can check labdoor to see if your supplements are legit and testing right. Some of the stuff that is advirtsied is serverly off.
Concerning the probiotic, it’s made by garden of life, it’s 100 billion CFU, and honestly it is the best reviewed probiotic I’ve found as well as the one that was recommended to me by a few different reputable people. That probiotic is one of the supplements that I noticed having a beneficial effect relatively quickly.
I actually did notice a benefit from taking these supplements, particularly certain ones. I used to get bad heartburn and needed medication to control it but after beginning to drink the lemon juice, ACV, and baking soda drink and taking the probiotic daily I was off my heartburn meds in a week. Another supplement that has had a noticeable effect is the curcumin - whenever I’m taking it I have far less inflammation in my joints and just seem to recover better from heavy workouts. Fish oil also seemed to help a lot with inflammation as well as help improve my HDL to LDL ratio. I’ve seen marked improvement in blood glucose stability with citrus bergamot as well - I have less spikes and troughs when I’m taking it versus when I’m not and this is verified with a BGM. The fiber and superfood supplement also makes immediate noticeable improvements in my digestion - when I’m on a high protein diet I tend to get constipated but whenever I’m consuming the fiber and superfood shake pre-bed I move my bowels like clockwork and the constipation issues resolve completely. I’m sure the others make a difference too but they’re just not as noticeable - for example with k2 I’m sure my body is processing calcium more efficiently but that’s not something you would feel. In terms of negative sides, I honestly have not ever been able to trace a bad feeling or symptom back to a supplement that I’m taking. That’s not saying that it’s not happening but I just haven’t, for example, had a headache, pulled a supplement, and the headaches stopped.

Hope this helps!

-Juicestin
 
Friday August 30th
Start: 7 am did abs first
45 min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph and 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph and 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph and 7.5 incline

Abdominals
1. Lying Machine Crunch - Bodyweight 4x25
2a. Hanging Knee Raises - 3x20
SUPERSET WITH
2b. Machine pin loaded Double Crunch -
Bodyweight+20# 1x15, 1x15, Bodyweight+10# 1x20
Finish: 805 am
 
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Saturday August 31st
45 Min treadmill - 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 8.5 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.0 incline, 15 mins @ 3.4 mph 9.5 incline
6 am - 645 am

CHEST AND TRICEPS
Start: 510 pm
CHEST
1. Pec Deck Fly - 90# 1x15, 100# 1x15, 110# 1x15, 120# 1x15
2. Flat Dumbbell Press - Warmup: 70#
1x10; Working: 80# 1x10, 90# 1x10, 100#
1x7, 85# 1x8
3. Incline Dumbbell Fly - 50s 1x12, 55s
1x10, 60s 1x6, 45s 1x11
4. Lying Incline Plate Loaded Machine Press - 30# PS 1x6, 25# PS 1x7, 20# PS 1x8, 15# PS 1x10
5. Pec Deck Fly - 100# 1x20, 110# 1x20, 120# 1x16
TRICEPS
1. Close Grip Bench Press - Warmup: 35# PS 1x10; Working: 45# PS 2x6, 1x7
2. Overhead Rope Extension - 35# 1x12, 40# 1x12, 45# 1x11
3. Unilateral Underhand Cable Pulldown -
15# 1x15, 20# 1x13, 15# 1x17
4. Machine Dip/Pressdown Machine - 240# 1x12, 270# 1x11, 290# 1x10
Finish: 645 pm
 
Concerning the probiotic, it’s made by garden of life, it’s 100 billion CFU, and honestly it is the best reviewed probiotic I’ve found as well as the one that was recommended to me by a few different reputable people. That probiotic is one of the supplements that I noticed having a beneficial effect relatively quickly.
I actually did notice a benefit from taking these supplements, particularly certain ones. I used to get bad heartburn and needed medication to control it but after beginning to drink the lemon juice, ACV, and baking soda drink and taking the probiotic daily I was off my heartburn meds in a week. Another supplement that has had a noticeable effect is the curcumin - whenever I’m taking it I have far less inflammation in my joints and just seem to recover better from heavy workouts. Fish oil also seemed to help a lot with inflammation as well as help improve my HDL to LDL ratio. I’ve seen marked improvement in blood glucose stability with citrus bergamot as well - I have less spikes and troughs when I’m taking it versus when I’m not and this is verified with a BGM. The fiber and superfood supplement also makes immediate noticeable improvements in my digestion - when I’m on a high protein diet I tend to get constipated but whenever I’m consuming the fiber and superfood shake pre-bed I move my bowels like clockwork and the constipation issues resolve completely. I’m sure the others make a difference too but they’re just not as noticeable - for example with k2 I’m sure my body is processing calcium more efficiently but that’s not something you would feel. In terms of negative sides, I honestly have not ever been able to trace a bad feeling or symptom back to a supplement that I’m taking. That’s not saying that it’s not happening but I just haven’t, for example, had a headache, pulled a supplement, and the headaches stopped.

Hope this helps!

-Juicestin
I will agree garden of life I heard great things, and on labdoor they are number 1. I will also say I had heartburn and ACV cured it. The probiotic I feel to, as well as the Metamucil and extra prunes I eat for fiber. I also get constipated on high protein and these saved me big time. I was told magnesium was good but that always gave me a dam headache.

How much Curcumin and Fish oil do you take?

Those are something I would try and need. My Cholesterol isnt the best. But I dont want to take statins for my life.
 
I will agree garden of life I heard great things, and on labdoor they are number 1. I will also say I had heartburn and ACV cured it. The probiotic I feel to, as well as the Metamucil and extra prunes I eat for fiber. I also get constipated on high protein and these saved me big time. I was told magnesium was good but that always gave me a dam headache.

How much Curcumin and Fish oil do you take?

Those are something I would try and need. My Cholesterol isnt the best. But I dont want to take statins for my life.
I take 8 grams fish oil per day split into 2 4 gram doses, one with meal 1 and one with meal 6. It’s important to note that I take a fish oil supplement that is 1 gram per capsule and almost that entire gram is EPA and DHA, the omega 3 fatty acids that we want from a fish oil supplement. A lot of fish oil Supplements on the market are low in EPA and DHA meaning they don’t actually have the omega 3s we are taking it for in the first place.
Concerning the curcumin, I take Life Extension Super Bio Curcumin. They’re 400 mg per capsule and I take 2 with meal 1. This is another supplement that you have to be careful with - a good majority of curcumin supplements are mostly just turmeric and not turmeric extracted for the active ingredient we want - curcumin. The entire 400 mg of the particular supplement i take is extract whereas most curcumin supplements would be like 50 mg extract and 350 mg of just turmeric.
Totally agree, I would rather try to control health issues with diet and supplementation rather than pharmaceuticals as much as I can. I definitely didn’t want to start taking statins when a simple change in diet and supplementation would eradicate the issue.

-Juicestin
 
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