Post up your Natty IGF-1 Level

[Trenbolonetax]

The tirzepatide might be controlling your blood sugar... but it takes a ton of insulin to do it, because of the GH-induced insulin resistance. I like that you tested fasting insulin and not just fasting glucose - far more useful test to identify insulin resistance.

I just finished reading Ben Bikman's book Why We Get Sick, which makes a compelling argument that insulin resistance is the primary underlying cause of most chronic diseases and causes of death (heart disease, cancer, dementia, diabetes obviously). I would challenge anyone who thinks GH for the amateur BB enthusiast is a remotely good idea to read the book.

I say leave it to the pros.

https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Sick-Disease-ebook/dp/B07ZKZ2NRN/

I love the fact that Ben's name got mentioned here.

Have you checked out any of Nick Norowitz, Dom D'Agostino, Dave Feldman, or other folks in their sphere of health work on metabolism / cholesterol / keto?

Something I found pretty interesting was when I was on 16iu of GH + 15mg Tirz and a low carb diet my fasting insulin came back less than 3 (forgot the units but they are standard freedom units). That was pretty surprising to me considering I had injected 16iu of GH that same morning I got the bloodwork done.

Questions that I ponder frequently: How much is one blunting the positive impact of GH by doing IF / low carb diet / keto diet? How much is one negating the deleterious impact of GH by doing the same? Can one reap most of the fat loss and soft tissue / recovery benefits of GH despite not receiving a IGF 1 boost as a result of fasting / very low carb diet?

 

[zmurphy]

I love the fact that Ben's name got mentioned here.

Have you checked out any of Nick Norowitz, Dom D'Agostino, Dave Feldman, or other folks in their sphere of health work on metabolism / cholesterol / keto?

Something I found pretty interesting was when I was on 16iu of GH + 15mg Tirz and a low carb diet my fasting insulin came back less than 3 (forgot the units but they are standard freedom units). That was pretty surprising to me considering I had injected 16iu of GH that same morning I got the bloodwork done.

Questions that I ponder frequently: How much is one blunting the positive impact of diet? How GH by doing IF / low carb diet / keto much is one negating the deleterious impact of GH by doing the same? Can one reap most of the fat loss and soft tissue / recovery benefits of GH despite not receiving a IGF 1 boost as a result of fasting / very low carb diet?

Did you ever get an IGF-1 level on the 16iu?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Did you ever get an IGF-1 level on the 16iu?

Yeah while on zero AAS + 16iu GH + 15mg tirz it was 218

 

[Jin23]

Something I found pretty interesting was when I was on 16iu of GH + 15mg Tirz and a low carb diet my fasting insulin came back less than 3 (forgot the units but they are standard freedom units).

I wanted to say that that sound impossible. But then:

Yeah while on zero AAS + 16iu GH + 15mg tirz it was 218

These are unmanaged diabetes numbers. I hope you stopped using gh?

Have you measured bg and insulin while beeing off of everything?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I wanted to say that that sound impossible. But then:



These are unmanaged diabetes numbers. I hope you stopped using gh?

Have you measured bg and insulin while beeing off of everything?

I'm sorry I don't quite understand how you got to the conclusion that it's unmanaged diabetes based on the information I provided?