Postal inspector visit

[PostCycleCheeseBurger]

I don't think this has been said but when something illegal is found in transit via mail law enforcement will either dress as a postal worker or have a true postal worker deliver the package.
The goal is to have you sign for the illegal package. By signing for it you accept responsibility and the package becomes your property (gives enough probable cause to arrest you). The best bet is to never ever sign for anything.
Larger agencies (federal/ state) may record multiple illegal packages going to your door in order to have a larger charge. I have never heard of this being done with any PEDs as this kind of operation is normally expensive and so it is typically only done with weed, meth, pills, etc.

 

[demon]

I don't think this has been said but when something illegal is found in transit via mail law enforcement will either dress as a postal worker or have a true postal worker deliver the package.
The goal is to have you sign for the illegal package. By signing for it you accept responsibility and the package becomes your property (gives enough probable cause to arrest you). The best bet is to never ever sign for anything.
Larger agencies (federal/ state) may record multiple illegal packages going to your door in order to have a larger charge. I have never heard of this being done with any PEDs as this kind of operation is normally expensive and so it is typically only done with weed, meth, pills, etc.

LE typically have a postal employee deliver the package. Ideally the Postal Inspector. At this point the package has already been opened and illegal substance inside has already been tested and identified and an anticipatory search warrant has been written to the address. This type of seach warrant is "activated" once the package is brought into the address its being mailed too. Most times when LE reseal the package and leave some of the evidence out just in case the contents of the evidence is destroyed during the delivery this way they can still charge you. Sometimes LE places a mini gps tracker in the package or spray it with invisible ink. typically on day of delivery a swat team is staged out-of-sight down the street. Mostly like someone is watching the front door or the area where the package gets delivered.

The goal is NOT to have you sign for it but that's alway's a bonus. If occupants don't answer the package will be place outside door where surveillance units can watch it. Usually LE will wait 2-3 hours depending what type of illegal drugs is being delivered. Meth, fenny, coke expect a long wait. If no one picks up the package after a few hours LE typically finds a covert way of snagging it and bring it back to the station. If it has tracking the Post Master can add made up notes to the tracker like pacakage delayed, will try again tomorrow, etc. Also, they also are capable of tracking your IP but last I heard they just get a general location such as what city you live, They may try a second delivery if the first one fails or they might knock on your door and attempt to gain verbal consent to search.

 

[MisterBasic]

I don't think this has been said but when something illegal is found in transit via mail law enforcement will either dress as a postal worker or have a true postal worker deliver the package.
The goal is to have you sign for the illegal package. By signing for it you accept responsibility and the package becomes your property (gives enough probable cause to arrest you). The best bet is to never ever sign for anything.
Larger agencies (federal/ state) may record multiple illegal packages going to your door in order to have a larger charge. I have never heard of this being done with any PEDs as this kind of operation is normally expensive and so it is typically only done with weed, meth, pills, etc.

As a novice, this scenario concerns me the most. Glad to know that PEDs aren't held to the same scrutiny as narcotics or hallucinogens.

 

[Whopperflopper]

I wouldn’t even answer the door. I've had cops at my door before, they leave.

Yes, they do leave. You reside there. They cannot force their way in without a warrant. They can knock, bang on your door for four hours straight, you dont have to answer, period.

Expect some follow up though.

 

[marsupial]

Look, if nowadays people get mailed amazon packages by other people so that fake 5 star reviews can be posted with confirmed delivery (Amazon Scam Warning: Beware of Deliveries You Didn't Order), couldn't the same alibi be used for gear packs?

 

[marsupial]

Ya, I guess ya'll are right. There are zero busts for guys taking roids on the search engines. They're mostly after distributors.

I still wish Arnold would've made it a slap on the wrist fine like he did with weed when he was Governator.

nah bro arnold got all his gear from the doctor lmao

oh and btw, SCREW YOUR FREEDOM

 

[marsupial]

Lastly, idk where you all live, but where I live the police are doing less and less nowadays.

That said, in florida for example, the police have the authority do execute a search warrant of your house, car, and electronics if they find a pack mailed to you with contraband in it...I doubt that that is executed that often though

 

[PostCycleCheeseBurger]

Another good thing to do is to purchase with crypto in order to hide any financial trail.

 

[marsupial]

Another good thing to do is to purchase with crypto in order to hide any financial trail.

Lmao bro pls. Ever heard of the blockchain? Your exact public address as well as the vendor’s is there in plain sight. Considering many people here struggle with buying crypto, I doubt most are going to be savvy enough to obtain it without tying any personal characteristic about themselves to it. Most people here get their crypto from a standard online exchange where they provide their own name, phone number, and bank account info LOL

The reason 99% of users have not had and will not have legal issues is that 99% of the time, LE doesn’t care to look into any of this. I do think that could change in the near future with the increasing prevalence of use though. There are millions of $$ that the DEA is missing out on by almost entirely neglecting the anabolic black market

 

[malfeasance]

So OP never responded to this so yes money is on a clueless troll unless something did happen and OP laying low.

If he is smart, then that is exactly what he is doing.

For all of the folks saying that USPS is not interested in personal use steroids - it just is not true.

Statute of limitations is up in my case, federal and state, but I am still going to limit what I say so as not to unnecessarily poke the bear.

I was questioned aggressively by USPS. So the "experts" on here saying that they do not do that and they take a warrant ahead of time and all of that - you just don't really know what you are talking about. Maybe sometimes they do.

What happened in my case was that they questioned me with an unopened package. They listed previous orders, dates, and so on. I told them I had no idea what they were talking about. Aggressive questioning, good cop bad cop, oh, we just want the dealer . . .

Anyway, questioning, released, they seized the package and got warrants later.

AND THEY ALWAYS GET THE WARRANT. Judges rubber stamp stuff for USPS inspectors. Just know that.

They claim a dog hit.

I know, I know, dogs are not trained to hit on oil and steroids, but that is what they claim, and the judge signs it. Period.

Then they shop it around for prosecution.

They go to the US Attorney, who is usually not interested in taking the case. Then they will bring it to your local law enforcement and prosecutors. Now whether they are interested depends upon who you are (sorry if that offends you, but it's true) and where you live. Most of you live in states where mere possession of small amounts of steroids is a felony (like one dianabol tab).

If you think your local law enforcement is going to turn up their nose at a case handed to them all gift wrapped for a felony, then wake up. Many of these guys will slap you with the felony and sleep well at night knowing they "helped" you keep from harming yourself.

So if any of you respect what I have to say, please stop with the "feds are not interested in personal use" bullshit about steroids.. If it is USPS, they most certainly are- they want to stop all contraband from passing through the mail.. Dogs are their favorite tool, mostly because they are unreliable and thus can be used to open all sorts of "suspicious" packages.

You should take a look at the case law regarding what passes for Fourth Amendment - most of the stuff your packages have on the outside are factors giving them probable cause. It's ridiculous.

YOU have not been questioned or caught yet. Good for you. But don't fool yourself. It is just a numbers game. Most all of the packages pass through without the USPS inspectors taking it and questioning you and then trying to ruin your life. But it does happen. There are news stories I am pretty sure I have shared right here on this site.

Now I am sharing, without too much detail, my own personal story.

No, I was not charged, but for reasons that do not apply to most of you (which I will not go further into other than to state that most persons in my circumstance would have been charged). For personal use, you may not have much to fear from the US prosecutor, but you may, depending upon your state, have a LOT to fear from the locals.

Just be forewarned.

Please stop posting that postal inspectors are not interested in personal use amount of steroids. USPS is not the DEA. Postal inspectors are definitely interested in personal use amounts of steroids, and they will ruin your life over it if they can.

 

[marsupial]

If he is smart, then that is exactly what he is doing.

For all of the folks saying that USPS is not interested in personal use steroids - it just is not true.

Statute of limitations is up in my case, federal and state, but I am still going to limit what I say so as not to unnecessarily poke the bear.

I was questioned aggressively by USPS. So the "experts" on here saying that they do not do that and they take a warrant ahead of time and all of that - you just don't really know what you are talking about. Maybe sometimes they do.

What happened in my case was that they questioned me with an unopened package. They listed previous orders, dates, and so on. I told them I had no idea what they were talking about. Aggressive questioning, good cop bad cop, oh, we just want the dealer . . .

Anyway, questioning, released, they seized the package and got warrants later.

AND THEY ALWAYS GET THE WARRANT. Judges rubber stamp stuff for USPS inspectors. Just know that.

They claim a dog hit.

I know, I know, dogs are not trained to hit on oil and steroids, but that is what they claim, and the judge signs it. Period.

Then they shop it around for prosecution.

They go to the US Attorney, who is usually not interested in taking the case. Then they will bring it to your local law enforcement and prosecutors. Now whether they are interested depends upon who you are (sorry if that offends you, but it's true) and where you live. Most of you live in states where mere possession of small amounts of steroids is a felony (like one dianabol tab).

If you think your local law enforcement is going to turn up their nose at a case handed to them all gift wrapped for a felony, then wake up. Many of these guys will slap you with the felony and sleep well at night knowing they "helped" you keep from harming yourself.

So if any of you respect what I have to say, please stop with the "feds are not interested in personal use" bullshit about steroids.. If it is USPS, they most certainly are- they want to stop all contraband from passing through the mail.. Dogs are their favorite tool, mostly because they are unreliable and thus can be used to open all sorts of "suspicious" packages.

You should take a look at the case law regarding what passes for Fourth Amendment - most of the stuff your packages have on the outside are factors giving them probable cause. It's ridiculous.

YOU have not been questioned or caught yet. Good for you. But don't fool yourself. It is just a numbers game. Most all of the packages pass through without the USPS inspectors taking it and questioning you and then trying to ruin your life. But it does happen. There are news stories I am pretty sure I have shared right here on this site.

Now I am sharing, without too much detail, my own personal story.

No, I was not charged, but for reasons that do not apply to most of you (which I will not go further into other than to state that most persons in my circumstance would have been charged). For personal use, you may not have much to fear from the US prosecutor, but you may, depending upon your state, have a LOT to fear from the locals.

Just be forewarned.

Please stop posting that postal inspectors are not interested in personal use amount of steroids. USPS is not the DEA. Postal inspectors are definitely interested in personal use amounts of steroids, and they will ruin your life over it if they can.

How did they question you? Did they come to visit you outside of dropping off a package? And were you a heavy user ordering often or not so often? Did you have a way to entirely clean house and hide most or all of your stuff elsewhere after getting visited the first time?

Also from what I see the police are doing far less for crime in general nowadays than in the recent past

 

[malfeasance]

How did they question you? Did they come to visit you outside of dropping off a package? And were you a heavy user ordering often or not so often? Did you have a way to entirely clean house and hide most or all of your stuff elsewhere after getting visited the first time?

I'd prefer not to disclose exactly how they questioned me - there are not that many postal inspectors nationwide, and they would surely remember me if I related all of the facts and they happened to be reading here (not that I think they are reading here, but internet stuff stays around forever). Like I said, I am not poking the bear. I would not be posting about this at all if the statute of limitation was not expired. I am just pointing out the facts of what can actually happen (and did). It was not "outside of delivering a package," though.

I ordered only personal use for my own cycles and contest prep. So probably more than some here, but certainly less than others I have seen posting here.

I damn sure cleaned house in a hurry, and my house is still clean to this day (only steroids in my house are things for which I have a prescription). Thankfully, they did not execute a search warrant on the house, but if they had, there would have been nothing here by the time they got here. Even my guns and anything else that might have been of any interest were gone in minutes. Clean, clean house. Guns are back. Illegal steroids are not.

I stopped participation on any boards for, oh, I don't remember, 6 months to a year, and then very carefully resumed once it appeared from my attorneys and others that I was probably in the clear.

BUT - I have never ordered through the mail again (somebody above stated one interrogation is all it would take, and I am not stupid and risking twice what worked out ok for me once).

The downside risks of arrest and conviction for a felony are simply too high for me.

 

[T&H]

I'd prefer not to disclose exactly how they questioned me - there are not that many postal inspectors nationwide, and they would surely remember me if I related all of the facts and they happened to be reading here (not that I think they are reading here, but internet stuff stays around forever). Like I said, I am not poking the bear. I would not be posting about this at all if the statute of limitation was not expired. I am just pointing out the facts of what can actually happen (and did). It was not "outside of delivering a package," though.

I ordered only personal use for my own cycles and contest prep. So probably more than some here, but certainly less than others I have seen posting here.

I damn sure cleaned house in a hurry, and my house is still clean to this day (only steroids in my house are things for which I have a prescription). Thankfully, they did not execute a search warrant on the house, but if they had, there would have been nothing here by the time they got here. Even my guns and anything else that might have been of any interest were gone in minutes. Clean, clean house. Guns are back. Illegal steroids are not.

I stopped participation on any boards for, oh, I don't remember, 6 months to a year, and then very carefully resumed once it appeared from my attorneys and others that I was probably in the clear.

BUT - I have never ordered through the mail again (somebody above stated one interrogation is all it would take, and I am not stupid and risking twice what worked out ok for me once).

The downside risks of arrest and conviction for a felony are simply too high for me.

Appreciate you sharing this. Been around boards for a long time and have never encountered someone posting a experience like this, all over personal use amounts.

What I'd really like to know is what possibly triggered them or flagged your package specifically to begin with. Like possible busted vials, pack got torn open by accident, etc. But i know that might be too much info.

 

[malfeasance]

Dog, or so they claimed.

Not that dogs are trained to hit on anything that would resemble anything in a package supposedly containing steroids . . .

But dogs are unreliable enough to give them PC for any package while being accepted as reliable by judges. Pretty much instant rubber stamp by the judge.

It is BS but that is how it works.

 

[PostCycleCheeseBurger]

Lmao bro pls. Ever heard of the blockchain? Your exact public address as well as the vendor’s is there in plain sight. Considering many people here struggle with buying crypto, I doubt most are going to be savvy enough to obtain it without tying any personal characteristic about themselves to it. Most people here get their crypto from a standard online exchange where they provide their own name, phone number, and bank account info LOL

The reason 99% of users have not had and will not have legal issues is that 99% of the time, LE doesn’t care to look into any of this. I do think that could change in the near future with the increasing prevalence of use though. There are millions of $$ that the DEA is missing out on by almost entirely neglecting the anabolic black market

Most people may not look into far enough to not tie it to their personal info does not negate the fact that if you feel the need to try to hide your financial trail, it is there. Just may not be worth it depending on how you feel.

I do agree that with the increase of TikTok and Social media gym "influencers" promoting the use of SARMs, Tren, or whatever. We are one broccoli-haired teen heart attack away from a major media story that will allow some sleazy politician to use a war against steroids as a rallying cry.
I don't understand why the DEA does not attempt more action against PEDs. I feel like they could spin a huge bust in some kind of way to get more funding.

 

[marsupial]

Most people may not look into far enough to not tie it to their personal info does not negate the fact that if you feel the need to try to hide your financial trail, it is there. Just may not be worth it depending on how you feel.

I do agree that with the increase of TikTok and Social media gym "influencers" promoting the use of SARMs, Tren, or whatever. We are one broccoli-haired teen heart attack away from a major media story that will allow some sleazy politician to use a war against steroids as a rallying cry.
I don't understand why the DEA does not attempt more action against PEDs. I feel like they could spin a huge bust in some kind of way to get more funding.

I really think its because their hands are tied with dope, meth, flakka, etc.

That said, as the other guy here said, the bigger danger is local LE getting wind of a shipment or something. But ive then argued that LE nowadays is lazy as hell and/or their hands are tied from all the wokeness

 

[RedXXSouth]

I am not certain I believe this story. Though it is within the realm of possibility, it just doesn’t seem right. They will normally do a controlled delivery. I would say, hypothetically, if someone shipped a bunch of marijuana from a legal state to a non legal state, all the post office did was send a letter saying this delivery could not be made because we believe it contained illegal material.

One thing I will say, if they are trying to build a case against a source they may put heat on a personal user to gain information.

 

[PostCycleCheeseBurger]

I really think its because their hands are tied with dope, meth, flakka, etc.

That said, as the other guy here said, the bigger danger is local LE getting wind of a shipment or something. But ive then argued that LE nowadays is lazy as hell and/or their hands are tied from all the wokeness

I also think it's worth considering where you live. If a Small rural county then I promise they do not give a shit. LE is flooded with domestic violence, property thefts, and mentally ill people that it is difficult to attempt to combat dope. Not even to mention then go after PEDs.

However, I can see a large city having the ability to do something about it if they caught wind of a package of test e. I just do not see a giant risk for the general person though. Local LE is 99% of the time flooded with Violent crimes, Property crimes, mentally ill people, and dope. I think the biggest risk is a LE agency looking for meth, weed, or something similar in the mail and somehow finding a PED. Then the agency may choose to go down the rabbit hole and try to do something. But they would more than likely just move on and try to focus resources on what they have the biggest issue with. In the U.S. (especially the southern U.S) Meth or opiates.

 

[marsupial]

Biden was the one who wrote up the act that made steroids controlled right? If he gets re-elected I could definitely see some increased efforts to crack down on peds, especially SARMs

 

[mason31033]

Biden was the one who wrote up the act that made steroids controlled right? If he gets re-elected I could definitely see some increased efforts to crack down on peds, especially SARMs

Oh boy.. another maga boy making stuff up lol

Anabolic steroids act of 1990 was sponsored by Rep.Mcollum (R) , Rep. Mazzoll (D) & Rep. Smith (D)