STOCK UP: Don't say you weren't warned! (US)

[Sampei]

Indian vendors have begun suspending AAS sales.

Link

 

[Ghoul]

Terrific explanation of de minimus, how eBay made the system we have today, and the unexpected problems it created by opening the pathway to hundreds of millions of inspected packages;

Reuters: De minimus precursor pipeline

 

[blastncruiser]

From India? The new UAE shipping line started 3 months ago. Only Z pills get shipped from India now as far as I know.

In UAE steroids are illegal and not even available in pharmacies. Confused . Or is it an illegal warehouse the Chinese are using in UAE? To ship products out

 

[Ghoul]

In UAE steroids are illegal and not even available in pharmacies. Confused . Or is it an illegal warehouse the Chinese are using in UAE? To ship products out

No, this is about India pharma vendors shipping from the UAE, with the exception of Z class sleeping pills, which must be sent from India. I assume pharmaceutical steroids were allowed to be sent from the UAE, as they made no mention of it before, but who knows.

 

[bigMoJo]

In UAE steroids are illegal and not even available in pharmacies. Confused . Or is it an illegal warehouse the Chinese are using in UAE? To ship products out

Steroids are a "controlled substance" in the UAE. There is a "zero tolerance" law for rec drugs.

 

[Sampei]

Steroids are a "controlled substance" in the UAE. There is a "zero tolerance" law for rec drugs.

Kuwait I guess it's not the UAE right? I heard good thing of oxygen gym and their building muscle enhanced program ahahah

 

[bigMoJo]

Kuwait I guess it's not the UAE right? I heard good thing of oxygen gym and their building muscle enhanced program ahahah

IDK about Kuwait. I would say it's the same, because in UAE gear is a "controlled" substance... meaning I can get a script for 1 gram of test per week, and as long as I have the script, I'm good.

Can't get a script for heroin though. lol.

 

[Sampei]

IDK about Kuwait. I would say it's the same, because in UAE gear is a "controlled" substance... meaning I can get a script for 1 gram of test per week, and as long as I have the script, I'm good.

Can't get a script for heroin though. lol.

UAE it's full of bodybuilder injecting anything so it's super expensive and you gotta go to the gymbro and risk your life or there is some kind of loophole where you can buy it and be fairly ok with it.

 

[iris]

UAE it's full of bodybuilder injecting anything so it's super expensive and you gotta go to the gymbro and risk your life or there is some kind of loophole where you can buy it and be fairly ok with it.

I reckon they manage to get legit pharma stuff.
Top class athletes wouldn't all gather there, risking to be imprisoned for steroid use.
At least, I have never heard about any of them ending up in trouble.
And, obviously, consumption of those substances is alive and well, in that environment.
Idk if there is any legit steroid pharma companies manufacturing in Kuwait.
But they must have a way of obtaining this stuff legitimately and on tap, basically.
They all go there and come back double the size they were.
I am sure the training is amazing, no distractions, stress, etc.
But it must be roid central, there.

 

[DECLAN]

I reckon they manage to get legit pharma stuff.
Top class athletes wouldn't all gather there, risking to be imprisoned for steroid use.
At least, I have never heard about any of them ending up in trouble.
And, obviously, consumption of those substances is alive and well, in that environment.
Idk if there is any legit steroid pharma companies manufacturing in Kuwait.
But they must have a way of obtaining this stuff legitimately and on tap, basically.
They all go there and come back double the size they were.
I am sure the training is amazing, no distractions, stress, etc.
But it must be roid central, there.

Remember, they have different laws over there. Just like how there were sport clinics in Florida before, these gyms have resident physicians prescribing their gear.

An acquaintance used to work in Dubai, everyone who is jacked is on gear and the front desk supplies it.

 

[Toadie45]

How do you think gear from China has been getting in so easily? It's not special smuggling routes, submarines, or secret airports. It's just the mail. Or more accurately, large containers filled with tiny packages, that are relabeled with US postage once they arrive in the US. Customs is sent an electronic list of contents, senders, and recipients which customs just green lights (because they're overwhelmed and they can't charge duties on any of it), and bam, it's in.

That's all about to change.

The "De minimus" rule allowed packages with a declared value under $800 to enter the country without going through customs in most cases. Volume has gone up from a hundred million to a BILLION packages a year. Everyone from trade unions screaming about cheap goods putting them out of work to the police saying this is a primary way drugs are smuggled into the country have been demanding something be done.

And of course, it's a huge potential source of $$$ for the government, the primary motivation.

In anticipation of new legislation to revamp de minimus, they've been laying the groundwork to build the capacity to inspect every parcel coming into the country. JFK has a huge new facility, run by a contractor, with high speed conveyors and AI run scanners, on site drug identification lab, that will go on line in January. It'll primarily be staffed by contractors and the company overseeing this operation will be paid based on performance...ie duties charged and packages seized. This is not your typical "I don't GAF" government worker,

No more skipped inspections.

And now the end game, legislation to flip the switch enabling this new regime is about to be put into place. Will probably he law within weeks, though I assume won't take effect until January.

You can stick your head in the sand, call me a "fear monger", pretend gear will be smuggled in "because drugs get smuggled in", blah blah. Yeah, it'll get in somehow, but it sure won't be like it is now, ordering from a huge selection at incredibly low prices.

If you're smart, especially if you're in self directed TRT and really need the stuff, you'll get on it NOW, and stock up on essentials. All gear begins and ends with raws that come from China, there are no US sources.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-lawmakers-move-to-restrict-trade-provision-favored-by-chinas-e-commerce-giants-bcd8fd43?mod=mhp

I’m new here. Can you help steer me in the right direction?

 

[iris]

I’m new here. Can you help steer me in the right direction?

Right direction for what?

I can give you the right direction, right here, first post, so:

Thread 'Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ️PLEASE READ️' Forum Etiquette - Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ️PLEASE READ️

 

[Ghoul]

I’m new here. Can you help steer me in the right direction?

To do what bro? Get started on TRT, find a reliable source?

You're gonna get told to write a post in the New member intro forum fyi,

 

[Toadie45]

To do what bro? Get started on TRT, find a reliable source?

You're gonna get told to write a post in the New member intro forum fyi,

Ghoul, I wrote my new member post. Described my situation and stuff. But yeah TRT in the US mainly

 

[Toadie45]

Ghoul, I wrote my new member post. Described my situation and stuff. But yeah TRT in the US mainly

But also which threads are productive to follow. Looking to learn

 

[Toadie45]

Right direction for what?

I can give you the right direction, right here, first post, so:

Thread 'Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ️PLEASE READ️' Forum Etiquette - Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ️PLEASE READ️

Iris, thank you for sharing this with me. I’ve seen your name on quite a few threads. I’m trying to learn about side effects, how cycling has impacted people’s personal lives, and ultimately sourcing. I’ve got lots to learn before that point. Just trying to figure out how to make meso a part of my routine

 

[Nunya]

Use
The
Search
Function

Seriously. I almost broke it when I joined

 

[RandallFlagg]

But also which threads are productive to follow. Looking to learn

You're gonna need to actually follow the forums to figure out which ones are productive to follow. That takes time and patience (it took me a solid 4-5 months to figure out a system to browse and learn and follow what the hell was going on...but I also wasn't spending hours a day trying to figure it out).

You will get out of the information what time and effort you put in. If the info was just handed to you, you would start blasting Primo and have some Anavar in the mail (or some other aimless pursuit that at best wastes your money...at worst, it permanently damages your health...yeah, that's probably worse than sudden death).

It's a process for a reason. It sounded "dumb" to me at first (especially since I arrived here via Reddit). Now, I barely browse Reddit and spend way too much time reading on here (though time is always in short supply). If you follow the forums etiquette guidelines, you'll find your immersion slow but more organic than just having someone give you all the random information you seek.

If you are new to TRT, truthfully I'd suggest signing up with a telehealth clinic, getting some lab work done, getting some medical advice (even if it's bad advice) and get a legal prescription to at least introduce some plausible deniability if you end up sourcing from a non-pharma source eventually.

If you are interested in bodybuilding, well then you've got an ever further way to go in refining your goals and sophistication of questions. Good luck!

 

[sinistral]

If you are new to TRT, truthfully I'd suggest signing up with a telehealth clinic, getting some lab work done, getting some medical advice (even if it's bad advice) and get a legal prescription to at least introduce some plausible deniability if you end up sourcing from a non-pharma source eventually.

I wouldn't bother with telehealth bro. You will almost certainly be wasting time. Not to mention offloading the responsibility of figuring out what works for you. You are here now and you are in the right place to learn. Immerse yourself and you'll be better off in the long run.

 

[Toadie45]

You're gonna need to actually follow the forums to figure out which ones are productive to follow. That takes time and patience (it took me a solid 4-5 months to figure out a system to browse and learn and follow what the hell was going on...but I also wasn't spending hours a day trying to figure it out).

You will get out of the information what time and effort you put in. If the info was just handed to you, you would start blasting Primo and have some Anavar in the mail (or some other aimless pursuit that at best wastes your money...at worst, it permanently damages your health...yeah, that's probably worse than sudden death).

It's a process for a reason. It sounded "dumb" to me at first (especially since I arrived here via Reddit). Now, I barely browse Reddit and spend way too much time reading on here (though time is always in short supply). If you follow the forums etiquette guidelines, you'll find your immersion slow but more organic than just having someone give you all the random information you seek.

If you are new to TRT, truthfully I'd suggest signing up with a telehealth clinic, getting some lab work done, getting some medical advice (even if it's bad advice) and get a legal prescription to at least introduce some plausible deniability if you end up sourcing from a non-pharma source eventually.

If you are interested in bodybuilding, well then you've got an ever further way to go in refining your goals and sophistication of questions. Good luck!

Thanks, that is really helpful. There is a lot going on, but just spending more time can only help to clear things up. I’ve got some blood work done at my primary care doctor and quest diagnostics. Test levels are about average in the mid 500’s.