STOCK UP: Don't say you weren't warned! (US)

[narta]

I'm not aware of any raws producers outside of China. China is the primary supplier of pharma active ingredients worldwide now. They've put most others out of business over the last 20 years.

Even before Operation Cuber Juice and Raw deal pushed most oils production to China, I was under the impression domestic labs got their raws from China.

There is India, but you need a LEGIT (not Panda legit) pharma license to order. LEGIT meaning you have actual production facilities/R&D and not just the legal paperwork

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

IDK my raws are coming in even faster than before now lol

 

[MackVMT]

IDK my raws are coming in even faster than before now lol

I've seen this scenario play out so many times like others. If there is a blip it doesn't last long.

It's been ages since the shit hit the fan for any significant amount of time.

 

[nullandvoid]

With the addition of new technology, particularly AI, this feels different. I think sheer volume was a major contributor for most packages getting through up until this point. The stated addition of the new scanners is what troubles me, coupled with the financial motivation to increase duties. With the clamping down on shippers, it's double damage. I hope it's wrong. I'm sure Ghoul hopes he is wrong, even. I was able to buy two AAS to cover myself for 11 years, but Primo is too spicy a purchase.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

With the addition of new technology, particularly AI, this feels different. I think sheer volume was a major contributor for most packages getting through up until this point. The stated addition of the new scanners is what troubles me, coupled with the financial motivation to increase duties. With the clamping down on shippers, it's double damage. I hope it's wrong. I'm sure Ghoul hopes he is wrong, even. I was able to buy two AAS to cover myself for 11 years, but Primo is too spicy a purchase.

How many kilos do you think domestic sources order at a time? Probably 8 kilos per order. I am just talking about the ones here.

 

[nullandvoid]

I have no idea. I'm just a TRT+ user worried about making sure I can ride out the rest of my life keeping the quality. 11 years should cover it. I'm in my sunset.

 

[green121]

At some point a realignment will happen, there's a market for it, and anytime there's a void in a market someone finds a way to make money off of it. Just more of a question for how long/when

 

[ineffectual]

At some point a realignment will happen, there's a market for it, and anytime there's a void in a market someone finds a way to make money off of it. Just more of a question for how long/when

Also pricing, selection

 

[17SS]

How many kilos do you think domestic sources order at a time? Probably 8 kilos per order. I am just talking about the ones here.

I ordered about 30 kilos of supplements from Amazon on black friday deals. I think I pissed off the USPS driver.

 

[malfeasance]

I have no idea. I'm just a TRT+ user worried about making sure I can ride out the rest of my life keeping the quality. 11 years should cover it. I'm in my sunset.

For now the TRT plus crowd can still use clinics. Some of them are pretty relaxed with their amounts

Who knows if that will change someday.

 

[Dirthand]

How many kilos do you think domestic sources order at a time? Probably 8 kilos per order. I am just talking about the ones here.

I do know but I bet that the prices the last while they have huge pile built up.. id say enought that if they ran out and raws were of a high risk to aquire most would probly just retire!!

 

[Sampei]

I do know but I bet that the prices the last while they have huge pile built up.. id say enought that if they ran out and raws were of a high risk to aquire most would probly just retire!!

Well you can make around 120k with 10kg of test E/C RAWS with an investment of 3k.

Some other stuff gives you a better return too xD

If you have 10kg of most RAWS yeah you can probably retire easily if you don't get caught

 

[nullandvoid]

For now the TRT plus crowd can still use clinics. Some of them are pretty relaxed with their amounts

Who knows if that will change someday.

I started out on TRT over ten years ago and went through six doctors, each adding their own personal brand of incompetence, ignorance, ego, and apathy. I eventually gave up and went with UGL and never looked back. It's not that I have any special knowledge. It's that none of them were willing to spend the time and energy to find what worked for me individually. Clinics are far more prevalent now, but I just never went back. The clinics are also way beyond conventional MD's in realizing quality of life matters, with some willing to push the envelope prescribing additional compounds. I always felt like I would eventually end up brewing my own. Only one throat to choke after verifying raws... mine.

 

[malfeasance]

I started out on TRT over ten years ago and went through six doctors, each adding their own personal brand of incompetence, ignorance, ego, and apathy. I eventually gave up and went with UGL and never looked back. It's not that I have any special knowledge. It's that none of them were willing to spend the time and energy to find what worked for me individually. Clinics are far more prevalent now, but I just never went back. The clinics are also way beyond conventional MD's in realizing quality of life matters, with some willing to push the envelope prescribing additional compounds. I always felt like I would eventually end up brewing my own. Only one throat to choke after verifying raws... mine.

Well, I am responding in the context of this thread, which is the UGL is going to be unobtanium soon.

If so, there is still the TRT clinic.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Well, I am responding in the context of this thread, which is the UGL is going to be unobtanium soon.

If so, there is still the TRT clinic.

And the smart people stayed with their TRT clinics and stashed the pharma Test-C away. So when the UGL well dries up, they do have that Test-C to fall back on for blast and cruise.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Well you can make around 120k with 10kg of test E/C RAWS with an investment of 3k.

Some other stuff gives you a better return too xD

If you have 10kg of most RAWS yeah you can probably retire easily if you don't get caught

I don't know about retiring with $120k unless you're a wizard-level investor. Otherwise that's like a year's salary.

 

[narta]

I don't know about retiring with $120k unless you're a wizard-level investor. Otherwise that's like a year's salary.

Not everyone lives in Fuckland. 120k in some south american or asian country is rich level money.

 

[green121]

I started out on TRT over ten years ago and went through six doctors, each adding their own personal brand of incompetence, ignorance, ego, and apathy. I eventually gave up and went with UGL and never looked back. It's not that I have any special knowledge. It's that none of them were willing to spend the time and energy to find what worked for me individually. Clinics are far more prevalent now, but I just never went back. The clinics are also way beyond conventional MD's in realizing quality of life matters, with some willing to push the envelope prescribing additional compounds. I always felt like I would eventually end up brewing my own. Only one throat to choke after verifying raws... mine.

Clinics are still like that I just converted to UGL this year because of it. I know of some lax ones I can probably just tell what I want if I have to. It's more the hassle and the cost on top of the added indifference/incompetence.

 

[malfeasance]

I don't know about retiring with $120k unless you're a wizard-level investor. Otherwise that's like a year's salary.

Top 15% salary (or close enough, 84th percentile)

 

[readalot]

There is India, but you need a LEGIT (not Panda legit) pharma license to order. LEGIT meaning you have actual production facilities/R&D and not just the legal paperwork

To your point. Many.

https://asgbiochem.com/products/

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