Sworder
Member
What's the secret to the calves? My can't grow. I have been walking f*cking miles to make them grow and it seems to be working very little...
Low weight high reps? Slow reps?
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Primobolan worth the extra money?
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Low weight high reps? Slow reps?
TRT@40
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TBH, It is mostly family genetics. I dont train the calves nearly as hard as other muscle groups; just seated and standing calf raises only, 5 sets each, 25-30 reps to irresistible burning sensation/set, about 200lbs for both exercises.
I think our friendly member @Roger rabbit had a good program for building bigger calves. I dont remember exactly what it was but it was something like really high reps and training them everyday. If you search for his posts, you will find his recommendations.
ludi_janez
Member
I love how you say you been doing primo. You probably been doing olive oilDid a frontload and ran it for a couple weeks wasn't feeling it.
Not going to be doing primo again
Turbo charged
Well-known Member
Did a frontload and ran it for a couple weeks wasn't feeling it.
Not going to be doing primo again
How can you comment on primo by taking it 2 weeks.you are joking right?
Not going to be doing primo again
How can you comment on primo by taking it 2 weeks.you are joking right?
Sworder
Member
I use canola oil, so it would be straight canola oil not olive oil. Olive branches are a symbol of peace. At first I thought you were mentioning olives for that reason, because olive oil isn't used commonly as a carrier oil. But that just goes to prove you don't know what you are talking aboutI love how you say you been doing primo. You probably been doing olive oil
Demondosage asked me a question if I had ran Primo at 600mg for 12-20 weeks. I said no, I have only done a frontload and 2-3 weeks of continual usage. Am I not allowed to answer questions truthfully?
Damned if I do, damned if I don't. Phew
Jankauskas
Member
Because they don’t know how to diet.
Why would you bulk when you are 20% body fat?
Why would you start taking gear if you are 20% body fat and want to cut?
The only reason you need gear to cut is to preserve muscle mass, if you are a natural you don’t need gear to cut because you shouldn’t even be bulking or cutting drastically, so you might aswell just lean out before you start using, because the hormones work best if you are lean.
Sworder
Member
What do you mean how to diet?
So you can gain muscle and strength?
I don't know, I don't think that's the topic. But if anybody wants to take gear for whatever reason. Who am I to say what's right or wrong?
Oh really? Can you please provide more information about this? At what bodyfat percentage does hormones start "working best?" I have never heard this hypothesis before.
ludi_janez
Member
Why do you use canola oil bro? We just use grapeseed oil.
Sworder
Member
Why not? I could use any, canola is cheap and readily available.
Rosconow
Well-known Member
As an aging washed up powerlifter who blasts and and cruises ( and probably don't have very many of them left in me) I was looking for something to make cruises a little more effective in gaining strength.
Fortunately/Unfortunately I have a little more money then time left at this game and life for that matter so cost isn't a large factor. Would like to buy some time from some of you youngsters
Maybe @Worf @Ohiopower or @PerrinAybara could chime in from the powerlifting corner.
Thanks to all that read and reply.
I started this lifting game many moons ago power lifting in high school and for years after only switching to body building after a couple shoulder dislocations ( flat bench has and never will be the same).
So as far as keeping gains while going back to a trt dose after a blast, either adding in primo with it, or having used it in your blast, i find the quality gains you get from primobolan "stick with you". Also, primo i read (encyclopedia of anabolics) has one of the highest nitrogen retention ratios, even though it doesn't have the highest anabolic ratings.
I myself am on trt, Dr. prescribed, and do 2 blasts a year. The hard part for me is to make sure i'm clean enough for my Dr's blood tests. He knows i blast, just frowns on it.
As far as keeping gains while on a trt dose, i find i have to eat a little heavier, and train a little harder. It's all in your head for the most part. Your central nervous system knows you can lift "x" amount of weight, your muscles are trained to lift "x" amount of weight, it's your conscious mind that holds you back for the most part. I make myself move the weight i do when on cycle, just can't do as many reps. That's where you fill the gap with volume. My 2c's
Jankauskas
Member
Unless you want to be a power lifter or a strongman competitor, I don’t see why you would want to “gain muscle and strength” while being fat, and even then there’s people like Larry wheels, that pretty much dispel the myth that you need to be fat to be strong.
As for the body fat and hormones, John Meadows talks about it extensively on his members website, and I believe in his YouTube videos aswell.
Sworder
Member
What does strong mean?
John Meadows? YouTube channel? That's called entertainment for people that bodybuild... Or are you saying that he provides studies that supports that?
Here is the thing, people like to look down upon fat people and people revere themselves like they are the hottest thing on Earth. So, what happens is that people look upon fat people and deem that they are not "worthy" but that's just a crock of shit. Anybody that does cycles doesn't NEED it, not for survival at least. You may paint that picture that you NEED it. But it's all a psychological disorder
Jankauskas
Member
Did you just act like you know more than John Meadows?What does strong mean?
John Meadows? YouTube channel? That's called entertainment for people that bodybuild... Or are you saying that he provides studies that supports that?
Here is the thing, people like to look down upon fat people and people revere themselves like they are the hottest thing on Earth. So, what happens is that people look upon fat people and deem that they are not "worthy" but that's just a crock of shit. Anybody that does cycles doesn't NEED it, not for survival at least. You may paint that picture that you NEED it. But it's all a psychological disorder
Hahahahahana
And regarding the “need” for cycling, yeah no one needs it, but if you are gonna do it, there are optimal ways to do it.
kakashi477
Golden Labs Representative
Now words for his comment lol everyone knows John is one the smartest guys in the industry
Sworder
Member
I haven't picked his brain so I don't know. What has John Meadows said about bodyfat and hormones?
What is optimal and what is sub-optimal? Who gets to decide?
Sworder
Member
No, I think there has been hype developed to make guys like you admire him.
I can't possibly fathom he knows more than Dr Scally or Bill Roberts, Millard probably knows more too!
You guys see other men with large muscles and equate that to knowledge. "His arms are so big his brain must be as well."
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Rosconow
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As much as i hate agreeing with Mr. Contrarian, Sworder. He does make a valid point on occasion....
Sworder
Member
That's my MO, be as annoying as humanly possible while still making valid points
sierrak1lo
New Member
Do you think it's worthwhile to add Primo for the last few weeks of a blast and then stay on it for a few more weeks after going back to TRT dosage? The price, high probability of faked gear, and "weakness" of Primo kept from trying it when I was younger.
I blast short-esters for 6-8 weeks these days and would like to add something mild to help keep appetite up for a few weeks after dropping other compounds.
sierrak1lo
New Member
That's my MO, be as annoying as humanly possible while still making valid points
Some members' willingness to respectfully challenge conventions and assumptions is probably what I most enjoy about this community so far. Too many echo chambers out there with everyone just jerking each other off.
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