Pristine Anabolics Intro

A little introduction to the situation:

After I became suspicious of @Weights & Measures because of his GH tests I requested @stevonov to send me samples of the bold cyp from @Trenity that he sent to W&M before.

As it seemed strange that Trenity claimed he made one batch, I came with one result (bold c + deca) then W&M came with another result ( bold cyp only ) and then when sent vial from Brian he came with the same result as me.

After I became suspicious, as I am a paranoid nutjob, I figured that W&M could have made that shit up - with GCMS you can easily identify the compound, and then he'd just guess the concentration from the common concentrations of the said product. That's how many of the fake testers I've dealt with have done it. Honestly, how many samples has he tested that didn't come back at "common" dosage?

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Well, unless Stevonov decided to fool me, which I doubt, my and W&Ms results on bold cyp is about 2% different, with W&M missing the test e content. No biggie.

Now this was done pro bono for ya, fuckers.

Conclude whatever you want out of this, I'm done with that. :p

The original sample of bold cyp that BrianNOLA submitted had Deca in it though??? Now the extra sample that Stevanov gave to you has Test E??? It’s all over the place.
 
The original sample of bold cyp that BrianNOLA submitted had Deca in it though??? Now the extra sample that Stevanov gave to you has Test E??? It’s all over the place.
Yep.

Main point being, W&Ms concentration assessment of Stevonovs sample turned out to be right and then there is the point you had mentioned.
 
Testing results came back.

EQ 300 Batch #034
SUS 300 Batch #003
Anadrol raw

Good to see you follow through with testing. I can assure you there’s a list of people looking for a domestic source right.

Continue this plan of action and your order numbers will just continue to increase
 
The original sample of bold cyp that BrianNOLA submitted had Deca in it though??? Now the extra sample that Stevanov gave to you has Test E??? It’s all over the place.
Yep.

Main point being, W&Ms concentration assessment of Stevonovs sample turned out to be right and then there is the point you had mentioned.
It’s early so I’m not sure exactly what I’m looking at lol.
Are we seeing multiple compounds being mixed in different vials from Pristine?

Testing from W&M shows accuracy or inaccuracy?

Bold cyp mixed with deca?
Bold cyp mixed with test e?
Or both?

I’m in need of spoon feeding for sure so I can understand better lol!!
 
Testing from W&M shows accuracy or inaccuracy?
My and W&Ms result on bold cyp content in vials from Stevonov is different by 2%. That is extremely small difference between labs, especially labs using completely different methodologies.

Bold cyp mixed with deca?
Sample from Brian was that.


Bold cyp mixed with test e?
Sample from Stevonov was that.



I like to lead people to make conclusions themselves, but considering I already got contacted for explanation by multiple people I guess I'll do so for you :D


1. W&Ms test of this was good, although he probably missed minor test e content. :p
2. Either Trenity made shit up about it all being a single batch, or Brian decided to fool all of us for no reason, or Stevonov is in bed with W&M, or something completely inexplicable happened with the very exact vial Brian sent (2.5 ml of deca stuck in dispenser was Trenitys assumption).

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From conclusion 2 pick the one you believe to be the most likely.
 
My and W&Ms result on bold cyp content in vials from Stevonov is different by 2%. That is extremely small difference between labs, especially labs using completely different methodologies.


Sample from Brian was that.



Sample from Stevonov was that.



I like to lead people to make conclusions themselves, but considering I already got contacted for explanation by multiple people I guess I'll do so for you :D


1. W&Ms test of this was good, although he probably missed minor test e content. :p
2. Either Trenity made shit up about it all being a single batch, or Brian decided to fool all of us for no reason, or Stevonov is in bed with W&M, or something completely inexplicable happened with the very exact vial Brian sent (2.5 ml of deca stuck in dispenser was Trenitys assumption).

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From conclusion 2 pick the one you believe to be the most likely.
Appreciate the explanation!
:)
 
My and W&Ms result on bold cyp content in vials from Stevonov is different by 2%. That is extremely small difference between labs, especially labs using completely different methodologies.


Sample from Brian was that.



Sample from Stevonov was that.



I like to lead people to make conclusions themselves, but considering I already got contacted for explanation by multiple people I guess I'll do so for you :D


1. W&Ms test of this was good, although he probably missed minor test e content. [emoji14]
2. Either Trenity made shit up about it all being a single batch, or Brian decided to fool all of us for no reason, or Stevonov is in bed with W&M, or something completely inexplicable happened with the very exact vial Brian sent (2.5 ml of deca stuck in dispenser was Trenitys assumption).

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From conclusion 2 pick the one you believe to be the most likely.
Is 20 mgs really that small that a tester should be missing it? Where is W&M report on this?
 
Is 20 mgs really that small that a tester should be missing it? Where is W&M report on this?
To be frank I generally ignore anything under 5 mg/ml, unless specifically requested.

Limit of detection for drostanolone for me is at about 20 mg/ml, unless I specifically focus on that.

I have to admit the possibility that W&Ms sample didn't have test e in it because it could have been from a different Stevonovs vial, HOWEVER I doubt that to be honest, due to the concentration of bold cyp being same in both our tests. I wouldn't consider it a severe mistake, though.
 
To be frank I generally ignore anything under 5 mg/ml, unless specifically requested.

Limit of detection for drostanolone for me is at about 20 mg/ml, unless I specifically focus on that.

I have to admit the possibility that W&Ms sample didn't have test e in it because it could have been from a different Stevonovs vial, HOWEVER I doubt that to be honest, due to the concentration of bold cyp being same in both our tests. I wouldn't consider it a severe mistake, though.
Yeah except these circumstances. It seems if both of those samples were only sent to W&M these small amounts would have never been detected. Thus this conversation never happening and this all flying under the radar.
 
To be frank I generally ignore anything under 5 mg/ml, unless specifically requested.

Limit of detection for drostanolone for me is at about 20 mg/ml, unless I specifically focus on that.

I have to admit the possibility that W&Ms sample didn't have test e in it because it could have been from a different Stevonovs vial, HOWEVER I doubt that to be honest, due to the concentration of bold cyp being same in both our tests. I wouldn't consider it a severe mistake, though.

Yeah except these circumstances. It seems if both of those samples were only sent to W&M these small amounts would have never been detected. Thus this conversation never happening and this all flying under the radar.
This is why it’s so awesome that @Weights & Measures and @janoshik have made testing of gear available and affordable. Random tests sent in by people should keep these UGL’s on their feet, like those shit shows ARL and Venom. Brew correctly and pay attention to QC and you shouldn’t have too many other issues making it here. But take the asshole route like ARL and Venom and get chased out of here; simples.
 
Yeah I'm on his DHB right now and it is painless believe it or not. My batch is the old shit though which I believe has been tested before. Not sure if its worth it.
What do you mean you aren’t sure if it’s worth it? You just don’t react to the compound?
 
Two previous samples of DHB have been tested. One came back at 92.94mg/mL (Had 7mg of tren e mixed in) and the other tested at 98.24mg/mL, both from batch 1. The current batch (#3) is being sent in this week.



Raws for the current batch of var were tested last round (3/11/19). Came back at 99.93% pure.
Can you link to that var test? I can’t find it anywhere. Searched in the lab section
 
to help clear things up when my bold cyp came back from WM at 200 I used store credit to get more. jano offered to retest to verify. I no longer had the original bottle but trinity swears he only made one batch. half my bottles were crashed and half were not so for the heck of it I sent .5cc out of sample "c" the crashed vial and a sample out of the one that didn't crash. if suppose WM could offer to retest out of these exact vials not sure what that would prove since they have a guide for what to test for now.
 
to help clear things up when my bold cyp came back from WM at 200 I used store credit to get more. jano offered to retest to verify. I no longer had the original bottle but trinity swears he only made one batch. half my bottles were crashed and half were not so for the heck of it I sent .5cc out of sample "c" the crashed vial and a sample out of the one that didn't crash. if suppose WM could offer to retest out of these exact vials not sure what that would prove since they have a guide for what to test for now.
When you pulled samples were they brand new unopened vials?
 
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