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What is an uncapped blood test and why do I want it, and when I go to my doctor and tell him I want a full blood workup, what is the difference?? (Yes, i googled. Shit just got more confusing)
 
What is an uncapped blood test and why do I want it, and when I go to my doctor and tell him I want a full blood workup, what is the difference?? (Yes, i googled. Shit just got more confusing)

An uncapped testosterone blood test will report levels above 1500 ng/dl.

If you just ask for blood work to be done, most likely the testosterone test won't be included.

Also if you ask for uncapped, be prepared to explain why? In a trt setting your levels should not be that high, so essentially, no need for that specific test.

You can order tests for yourself through privatemdlabs, or through Ultalabs

Hormone Testing for Men
HORMONE PANEL FOR MALES
Price: $179.49

Please Note: If this panel is ordered by a female, due to ordering restrictions on certain tests, the PSA test will not be included on the requisition and will not be performed.

Significant deviations from the normal range may require further evaluation by your physician.


Includes:
Lipid Profile: Cholesterol, total; high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol; low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (calculation); triglycerides; very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol (calculation).

Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential: (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes)

Estradiol, Sensitive

Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)

Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): (A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.)

Testosterone, Free (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) With Total Testosterone

Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)

Thyroid Profile w/ TSH: Free Thyroxine Index (FTI);Thyroxine (T4);

Thyroid Hormone Binding Ratio (T3 Uptake); Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)

Note: If total testosterone levels are greater than the cutoff for this test (>1500), results for free testosterone and/or percent free testosterone may not be provided. If total testosterone results are expected to be >1500 it is best that the LC/MS-MS version of this test be ordered.
 
Is there a "sweet spot" for testosterone levels? High enough that you're not getting annihilated by any side effects or something?

I am currently at about 650 with 200mg bi-weekly of test C. I feel like I should change up to test E 300-500mg a week. This seem good?
 
Is there a "sweet spot" for testosterone levels? High enough that you're not getting annihilated by any side effects or something?

I am currently at about 650 with 200mg bi-weekly of test C. I feel like I should change up to test E 300-500mg a week. This seem good?

Depends on the person.

I'm running 750mg of Sust without any sides, I'll probably drop it back to 500mg after this coming week.

But I felt fine frontloading the same amount of E last time around. So it may well be that I'm not getting creamed because they're mainly long esthers.

On the flip, I ran 50mg of Tren EOD and seemed to have prostate issues within two weeks. So...youve just gotta play with it.
 
Is there a "sweet spot" for testosterone levels? High enough that you're not getting annihilated by any side effects or something?

I am currently at about 650 with 200mg bi-weekly of test C. I feel like I should change up to test E 300-500mg a week. This seem good?

How do you feel? Sex drive good? Morning wood? If yes to those I’d say you’re in a good spot. Yes some function better at the higher end of the range. And some are different.

Why switch to enanthate? If anything I would try doing 100 mg weekly of the test cyp. More stable blood levels. You’re currently doing 200 mg every other week at the moment correct?

Also keep in mind that people convert to estrogen at different rates as well. So if you up the dosage, you may need an AI.

The bottom line bloodwork is key. This shit shouldn’t be taken lightly.

You say you’re at 650 on current dose. How long after inject did you do bloodwork? Like was it just before next time to inject again?
 
I dont remember how long after injection I did blood test anymore. Its been awhile.

I know i feel better at 650 over 150 obviously. However, i do feel like it could be even better. Sex drive is up for sure, morning wood...not so much.

I considered the switch to enanthate because i figured it would kick in faster. I thought that since Cyp has a half life of about 2 weeks, weekly injections would not be needed. Wouldnt 100mg a week be the same as 200mg every other week?
 
Depends on the person.

I'm running 750mg of Sust without any sides, I'll probably drop it back to 500mg after this coming week.

But I felt fine frontloading the same amount of E last time around. So it may well be that I'm not getting creamed because they're mainly long esthers.

On the flip, I ran 50mg of Tren EOD and seemed to have prostate issues within two weeks. So...youve just gotta play with it.


750mg that seems like a lot of fluid to inject. 2-3 ml at one shot?
 
I dont remember how long after injection I did blood test anymore. Its been awhile.

I know i feel better at 650 over 150 obviously. However, i do feel like it could be even better. Sex drive is up for sure, morning wood...not so much.

I considered the switch to enanthate because i figured it would kick in faster. I thought that since Cyp has a half life of about 2 weeks, weekly injections would not be needed. Wouldnt 100mg a week be the same as 200mg every other week?
Cyp and E are nearly identical and will kick in at the same time. If you want fast, you need Prop or TPP.
 
After a little more research it seems like Cyp will hold a more steady "high" with how it kicks in. That seem right?

There isnt anything wrong with hitting 250mg of Cyp twice a week is there? My goal is 500mg a week to see how I like that.
 
Is there a "sweet spot" for testosterone levels? High enough that you're not getting annihilated by any side effects or something?

I am currently at about 650 with 200mg bi-weekly of test C. I feel like I should change up to test E 300-500mg a week. This seem good?
Your dose isn't as much of a problem as the frequency you are getting it. Test cyp has a half life of 8 days so by day 14 of your 200 mg you are working with around 50 mg.

This is a really crappy protocol physicians use because they simply try to reduce how often you are in the office for injections.

Break yours up to either 100 mg per week or even better would be 50 mg twice per week. 100 mg per week would put you somehwere in the middle of the standard range. There really isn't a sweet spot but most progressive trt protocols are 150 - 200 mg per week which would put you on the high end but estrogen typically will become a concern at those doses so you'll need drugs to counter that. Another common problem when using higher doses is hematocrit and red blood cells increasing to dangerous levels. Most people will start to donate blood to mitigate that.
 
After a little more research it seems like Cyp will hold a more steady "high" with how it kicks in. That seem right?

There isnt anything wrong with hitting 250mg of Cyp twice a week is there? My goal is 500mg a week to see how I like that.


What is your goal? I suppose i should have asked that first. Is it that you wanna run a cycle? or just feel good? As others mentioned when pushing the amount of test, you may need estrogen control, as well the need to donate blood.

The more frequent pinning that was suggested above is spot on to keep stable blood levels.

This is all a science experiment really. On high doses like 500 mg of test a week i feel like shit. I run 250 mg a cyp a week, 450 primo, and take 25 mg of aromasin weekly as well. I am still making progress in the gym, due to diet and training being priority. As you can see in my avi, i'm decently built.

How is your diet? How is your training? Again, what is the end goal?

If you you wanna run 500 mg of test a week, go for it. I would break it up into 2 separate injects.

Just be sure to get blood work done to see how the test is affecting your body.
 
Since it sounds like his first experience, I wouldnt recommend over 600.. I'd normally say 500 or around that area but we are in pristine's thread with a dosing of 300mg/ml.. that's why I recommended 75mg ed. 1/4ml everyday, a small amount of oil. So when you fuck up one of your injects, which you most likely will (it's a learning experience) you've got a very small amount of compound to deal with

Just my personal opinion, then again ed pins for a beginner may be a little much. Pick your poison brother.
 
Since it sounds like his first experience, I wouldnt recommend over 600.. I'd normally say 500 or around that area but we are in pristine's thread with a dosing of 300mg/ml.. that's why I recommended 75mg ed. 1/4ml everyday, a small amount of oil. So when you fuck up one of your injects, which you most likely will (it's a learning experience) you've got a very small amount of compound to deal with

Just my personal opinion, then again ed pins for a beginner may be a little much. Pick your poison brother.


Ya that makes perfect logical sense to me.
 
All of you respones are so very much greatly appreciated!

My goal is to MAYBE POSSIBLY run a cycle other than just test in the future.

My diet is OK, not great. I have been steadily losing body fat for 6 months now. I have been going to the gym 6 days a week for about 1.5-2 hours each day right after I get up. I figure I'm doing what most here are trying to do, build muscle and burn fat.

I really like the effect the testosterone has had on my strength and energy levels so much, it has made me curious about other things. No I'm not gonna jump right in to tren or something like that but, I've been researching others.

I'm trying to be very cautious and patient with what I take. If I do start a cycle of gear, I want to make I'm doing it right and am well informed.

Like I said earlier, all of you have been a great help and I appreciate all of you!

Thanks brothers!!
 
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