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[The Terminator]

But what warrants "beyond reasonable doubt" ?
How many blacks are shoot because the cops feel they have probable cause ?

It's all bullshit.


Are they going to stop everyone based off a stero type ?

Everytime they see a jacked mother fucker , are they going to follow him home and break down the down searching for gear ?

It has to be more than just ...

Unfortunately this shit happens . Is it right ? No

I said a reasonable suspicion that a reasonable person could believe, and I said it’s not like they need reasonable doubt. Seeing a muscular dude isn’t reasonable suspicion.

 

[TRTvegan]

I said a reasonable suspicion that a reasonable person could believe, and I said it’s not like they need reasonable doubt. Seeing a muscular dude isn’t reasonable suspicion.

It very much is reasonable suspicion... By the way the cops act , it is. Doesn't mean it's right ,but it happens .

 

[RCCP]

Drugs take precedents over murders and robberies, look at how many drug offenders are getting longer sentences than murders. Most le have dedicated narcotics team.

You know this because you saw it on the internets or news? Or you know because you regularly talk to detectives in vice homicide and other units? I know where I get my information.

 

[The Terminator]

You know this because you saw it on the internets or news? Or you know because you regularly talk to detectives in vice homicide and other units? I know where I get my information.

No not the news, or the internet. Neither can be entirely trusted. I have reliable sources tho.

It very much is reasonable suspicion... By the way the cops act , it is. Doesn't mean it's right ,but it happens .

Has to something more than looks, now if there something like lots of packages coming, lots of crap related to brewing, le doesn’t need a warrant to search your trash once you bring out to a curb in most states. A couple states have even stronger 4th amendment protections and in those states le would need a warrant to search your trash even when you put it on the curb. Lots of traffic at the house etc etc. This could lead to a warrant but just seeing a muscular dude wouldn’t fly.

Of course they may target people that look a certain way, but it’s pretty hard to get a warrant based on looks. They may target them and try to use that person’s ignorance of the law to find something. People don’t realize you don’t have to answer any questions but they’ll make it seem as tho you do. Always ask them if you’re under arrest or if you’re free to go.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Yea, you need probable cause to believe crime is being committed. You apply for a search warrant with a judge. He approves it or doesnt.

We have the constitution and the bill of rights, the 4th amendment protects us from illegal searches and seizures. So that warrant will be very specific as to what they're looking for and where they can look for.

It's not a simple process. And law enforcement donthave unlimited resources. Or free reign to do whatever they want.

(Not arguing with you, just making conversation)

For e.g. just recently I seen a cop pull someone over for a broken taillight. They pull him over, they find out hes drunk. He fails sobriety test yadayadayada...

He gets arrested.

The defense asks why did you pull my client over? The cop says broken taillight.

Defense shows him a picture of the tail light, and says it wasnt broken. Cop is a stand up guy, says yes I noticed upon further inspection that the taillight wasnt actually broken.

The guy gets off. That's the protection you get from the bill of rights. The guy was illegally "searched and seized" so anything found from that illegal search and seizure, cant be used in court. So the fact he was drunk couldn't be used.

I'm just using that as an example, and I too have a different perspective on these situations compared to typical forum members.

That’s not true either.

You are protected under the 4th amendment. But if the officer smells the presence of alcohol that gives him the right to search and give you the sobriety test.

And I can promise you. 99% of the cops will tell you I pulled him over because of what looked like improper driving and possible tail light. The story will change to match the charge.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Getting a warrant isn't exactly an easy thing. You have to have cause and have a chain of people to sign off on it which can take time and money.
Our government is too busy raping young children in cages for marching through the boarder to be worried about a meat head with 100g of var.

That’s what everyone believes. Small towns have one judge. The officer brings the docs to them, local judge signs off.

They don’t have to bring to the Supreme Court to get a search warrant.

Live in a city? Ill just fax it over to the judge. The process isn’t complicated.

 

[rpbb]

I say this all with a caveat, that yes obviously you can be arrested for anything. But being convicted is a whole other ball game.

But cops, generally speaking, know what they can or cant do, and what they can get away with and what not...

So now you're an expert on law enforcement? You just type and pretend you know everything. And if you don't, you ask childish questions to deflect, and pay no attention to the answers. Probably time for you to retire from shilling for panda, you've been exposed

 

[RYDER80]

Simply not true.

It costs very little to get a search warrant especially when customs already has documented the evidence. And to Have one officer give you a package costs nothing more than a cop on duty already.

Little fish are busted all day everyday. To think otherwise is just convincing yourself to not be so paranoid.

In the eyes of the laws, raws is not for personal use when you have all the equipment to manufacture and distribute.
Not to mention since it went across state lines you also get a nice charge of trafficking.

You are right! Technically, any amount of raws could equate to manufacturing in the eyes of LE even in small amounts. If it were small amounts of finished products, probably would be a different story & you could pull the "personal" use card. IDK, I think its definitely plausible for this type of situation to go drown, I just dont think this dude is telling the truth or atleast the whole truth.

 

[rpbb]

You are right! Technically, any amount of raws could equate to manufacturing in the eyes of LE even in small amounts. If it were small amounts of finished products, probably would be a different story & you could pull the "personal" use card. IDK, I think its definitely plausible for this type of situation to go drown, I just dont think this dude is telling the truth or atleast the whole truth.

I don't think his post had anything to with the legitimacy of sak. It's the fact that LE can come after anyone they want, anytime they want, based simply on the fact they don't like someone. They can than take all your possessions and ruin your life financially without ever needing to get a conviction.

 

[RYDER80]

I don't think his post had anything to with the legitimacy of sak. It's the fact that LE can come after anyone they want, anytime they want, based simply on the fact they don't like someone. They can than take all your possessions and ruin your life financially without ever needing to get a conviction.

I totally agree & Ive seen that happen first hand.

 

[AnTabolic73]

I’m not trying to be confrontational with you at all but the Constitution has been torn up and thrown away for quite some time. You cannot just simply say but the Constitution protects this or that from happening. There isn’t a judge, lawyer or cop that hasn’t wiped their ass with the Constitution. It’s merely a burden to them. Only valid when someone’s looking.
I happen to be one of “those” guys that think the Constitution is the single greatest document written by man. If only the people that it’s meant to protect would protect it.

I agree, when it comes to gun laws and the 2nd amendment mostly.

 

[AnTabolic73]

But what warrants "beyond reasonable doubt" ?
How many blacks are shoot because the cops feel they have probable cause ?

It's all bullshit.


Are they going to stop everyone based off a stero type ?

Everytime they see a jacked mother fucker , are they going to follow him home and break down the down searching for gear ?

It has to be more than just ...

Unfortunately this shit happens . Is it right ? No

Cops only need reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed to arrest someone.

I dont think being jacked would be enough.

I think local le fall into steroid busts for the most part. It's either found in traffic stops cuz people are idiots. Found while investigating other crimes (rec drugs, gun sales...) or essentially handed over to them from feds(customs, dea, homeland)

Cops juice. A large percent of them.

 

[rpbb]

Cops only need reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed to arrest someone.

I dont think being jacked would be enough.

I think local le fall into steroid busts for the most part. It's either found in traffic stops cuz people are idiots. Found while investigating other crimes (rec drugs, gun sales...) or essentially handed over to them from feds(customs, dea, homeland)

Cops juice. A large percent of them.

Shut the fuck up, you know nothing about the constitution or law enforcement

 

[AnTabolic73]

I don't think his post had anything to with the legitimacy of sak. It's the fact that LE can come after anyone they want, anytime they want, based simply on the fact they don't like someone. They can than take all your possessions and ruin your life financially without ever needing to get a conviction.

Come in bro. Not they csnt.

That’s not true either.

You are protected under the 4th amendment. But if the officer smells the presence of alcohol that gives him the right to search and give you the sobriety test.

And I can promise you. 99% of the cops will tell you I pulled him over because of what looked like improper driving and possible tail light. The story will change to match the charge.

so the story I told you is 1%. I said the same thing. Hell I wouldve said the same thing. That cop was stand up and admitted to knowing the taillight was not broken. Something was off about it, it appeared to be broken but it wasnt quite.

As far as 99% nah bro. Its like any profession, or life in general, you have scum bags and you have good honest people. Cops have a difficult job, with a lot of pressure and scrutiny. That alone can make an honest man fuck up.

If a doctor kills someone cuz of a mistake, he has insurance to cover that mistake.

Cops dont have luxury. Their mistakes are made public. Idiots believe the media. Honest hardworking men and women are being dragged down by the small percentage of rotten apples.

Im speaking with first hand knowledge too. Without giving up too many details.

 

[rpbb]

Cops only need reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed to arrest someone.

I dont think being jacked would be enough.

I think local le fall into steroid busts for the most part. It's either found in traffic stops cuz people are idiots. Found while investigating other crimes (rec drugs, gun sales...) or essentially handed over to them from feds(customs, dea, homeland)

Cops juice. A large percent of them.

This is why I can't stand panda, he's either lying, fucking up, or having shills like you blather on endlessly in this thread

 

[rpbb]

Come in bro. Not they csnt.

so the story I told you is 1%. I said the same thing. Hell I wouldve said the same thing. That cop was stand up and admitted to knowing the taillight was not broken. Something was off about it, it appeared to be broken but it wasnt quite.

As far as 99% nah bro. Its like any profession, or life in general, you have scum bags and you have good honest people. Cops have a difficult job, with a lot of pressure and scrutiny. That alone can make an honest man fuck up.

If a doctor kills someone cuz of a mistake, he has insurance to cover that mistake.

Cops dont have luxury. Their mistakes are made public. Idiots believe the media. Honest hardworking men and women are being dragged down by the small percentage of rotten apples.

Im speaking with first hand knowledge too. Without giving up too many details.

Making up more of your bullshit

 

[AnTabolic73]

That’s what everyone believes. Small towns have one judge. The officer brings the docs to them, local judge signs off.

They don’t have to bring to the Supreme Court to get a search warrant.

Live in a city? Ill just fax it over to the judge. The process isn’t complicated.

It's not complicated but warrants arent given out all willy nilly.

And yes that small town cop does have to go to the supreme court get a warrant. Not the us supreme court(federal) but the state supreme court. Town courts are lower courts, they only have jurisdiction in that town and misdemeanors. Felonies go to supreme court(they're known by county court in most places).

So district attorneys are on call all the time and so are some judges. In case someone needs a search warrant at 2 am or whatever.

I've just seen someone get pulled over from drunk driving. He didnt consent to the field sobriety test. The cops call the assistant district attorney who's in call. They draft up the warrant, they call the judge who's on call, the approve it. Now they have a warrant to forcibly take blood from this guy to test for alcohol level.

So it's not hard but it's not easy either.


But my knowledge is specific to my state. It's slightly different every where, but not drastically. They all mirror the federal legal system to a certain extent.

 

[AnTabolic73]

Shut the fuck up, you know nothing about the constitution or law enforcement

Another golden nugget from rpbb.

I hurt you havent I? I apologize.

And yes I do have knowledge. Im not learning my stuff from forums and TV like you do. Mister cops can take your whole life solely if they dont like you.

This isnt the middle east my dude.

 

[AnTabolic73]

This is why I can't stand panda, he's either lying, fucking up, or having shills like you blather on endlessly in this thread

Making up more of your bullshit

more golden nuggets.

You're contribution to this conversation is tremendous. Thank you.

 

[Heavy Iron]

It's the fact that LE can come after anyone they want, anytime they want, based simply on the fact they don't like someone

This is 100% true. I have experienced this first hand. I was literally stalked by police in the town I grew up in all through highschool until I was ran out of town by a narcotics officer. This dude fucking HATED me. All because there was a local officer whose son was in my grade that had a grudge with me for whatever reason. Cops will do what they want when they want. And they will say anything and straight like to you.