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Guys like him are no good in the clutch. Like panda or not, self proclaimed rat for LEO is a bitch move. No excuse for that, smdh...
 
Guys like him are no good in the clutch. Like panda or not, self proclaimed rat for LEO is a bitch move. No excuse for that, smdh...
The day of the gangster is past. I spent my early twenties in federal prison not something I'm proud of but it saved my life. At least 90% cooperate with the prosecution. I saw sons snitch on fathers, brothers on each other. You really think you are going to stand up and do a decade for someone you bought illegal items from online that you never met in person? Please. Most of the time these guys keep a "spare tire" , someone they don't care about to snitch on. If you don't cooperate they hammer you as hard as possible. I got a 70 month sentence on a first offense. For weed! But I tell you what. If I'm old and broke, I wouldn't hesitate to commit a nonviolent federal crime. Even if I get caught I get good food and spend my retirement in a camp. Not my first choice but I knew a guy who robbed a post office without a weapon just for that reason. He said it was better than being homeless. The health care isn't great but better than he was getting on the street. Don't need real pain management though. A buddy of mine had compound fractures on bother legs, steel exoskeleton and all. Ibuprofen was the best he got. If I had to do it over again I still would have done the same thing because it was good for me but I wasn't looking at a whole lot of time for a young unmarried man with no kids. Most guys agree to snitch before they are even cuffed. And thathat is the reality. Not these internet wannabe gangsters.
 
The day of the gangster is past. I spent my early twenties in federal prison not something I'm proud of but it saved my life. At least 90% cooperate with the prosecution. I saw sons snitch on fathers, brothers on each other. You really think you are going to stand up and do a decade for someone you bought illegal items from online that you never met in person? Please. Most of the time these guys keep a "spare tire" , someone they don't care about to snitch on. If you don't cooperate they hammer you as hard as possible. I got a 70 month sentence on a first offense. For weed! But I tell you what. If I'm old and broke, I wouldn't hesitate to commit a nonviolent federal crime. Even if I get caught I get good food and spend my retirement in a camp. Not my first choice but I knew a guy who robbed a post office without a weapon just for that reason. He said it was better than being homeless. The health care isn't great but better than he was getting on the street. Don't need real pain management though. A buddy of mine had compound fractures on bother legs, steel exoskeleton and all. Ibuprofen was the best he got. If I had to do it over again I still would have done the same thing because it was good for me but I wasn't looking at a whole lot of time for a young unmarried man with no kids. Most guys agree to snitch before they are even cuffed. And thathat is the reality. Not these internet wannabe gangsters.
Lol, it's funny how fast people turn on one another. You're correct, the days of old are long gone.
 
DHB hasn't been tested with Labmax
LabMax test kits, anabolic steroids test kit.
So DHB might (or might not) give similar results to Test Cyp. So far we don't know because it hasn't been thoroughly tested.

BTW, Panda sells both DHB-cypionate and DHB-no ester, which one do you have @gpg9991 ?
The former has much better solubility than the latter, and their Labmax results may differ as well.

Besides HPLC testing (read below), you can do melting point tests.
Test cyp melts at 98 - 104 C
https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/chemical-products_Testosterone-Cypionate-CIII-Powder-USP_TE118.jsp?minisite=10020&respid=22372
While DHB-no ester seems to melt at 78-85 C
1-Testosterone
As for DHB-cyp, I still have to find a reputable info source from a true lab grade chemicals supplier for its m.p. In fact I still have to find its proper CAS number. I'll dig for it whenever I have more time.



Just don't send it to Janoshik.
While W&M looks legit so far, we can't be 100% sure.



You can test every single batch you receive at Simec or Lab4tox. At least for the ones they test for, they don't test for every steroid and ester known.

1 Get a powder mixer for your typical batch size. Probably about 10 Kg at a time
This is to make sure raws are properly mixed, and the best ones aren't poured at the top of the bag/drum, while the worst ones sit at the bottom.
(Make sure you throughly clean the mixer to avoid cross contamination from different steroids, this is important)
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2 Get a remailer in Europe as Simec/Lab4tox only accept EU customers. Offer them some $50-100 per remailing.

3 Get gear tested.
It ain't that expensive:
1 gram raws < $5
Shipping from China to EU remailer < $75
Remailer fee < $100
Shipping from remailer to Simec/Lab4tox < $75
Simec/Lab4tox fee < $200, varies with the Euro exchange rate
Total < $455. If you spend that every 10 Kg, it's a mere < 5 cents per gram. Totally worth it.

4 Enjoy becoming the new "Pharmacom of raws", just make sure you get a money back guarantee from raws wholesalers, in case HPLC indicates raws are impure.



Fuck off and get back to your fucking thread.

But what makes a Swiss or French accredited testing lab better then a Chinese accredited testing lab? Besides white people running the latter. Every sample I’ve ever sent them I just label as a number and they are able to establish which compound it is through mass spectrometer, then they run a HPLC on it and tell me the purity. Before when I was looking for a reputable clenbuterol supplier they saved me from getting ripped off from multiple suppliers selling caffeine as clenbuterol. Was a good day when I found a legit supplier. They have told me purity was low on some various raws batches so I was able to return them to the factory and trade them for a batch that wasn’t. They’ve never done wrong by me before. But I do like the idea of mixing all the raws and then taking the sample. I have a 15kg mixer in my warehouse for making tablets. Previously I’ve just been taking samples from multiple points in the barrel
 
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But what makes a Swiss or French accredited testing lab better then a Chinese accredited testing lab? Besides white people running the latter. Every sample I’ve ever sent them I just label as a number and they are able to establish which compound it is through mass spectrometer, then they run a HPLC on it and tell me the purity. Before when I was looking for a reputable clenbuterol supplier they saved me from getting ripped off from multiple suppliers selling caffeine as clenbuterol. Was a good day when I found a legit supplier. They have told me purity was low on some various raws batches so I was able to return them to the factory and trade them for a batch that wasn’t. They’ve never done wrong by me before. But I do like the idea of mixing all the raws and then taking the sample. I have a 15kg mixer in my warehouse for making tablets. Previously I’ve just been taking samples from multiple points in the barrel
Maybe you wouldn't have sold all that underdosed hgh and pip causing test e if you actually tested your gear
 
Hey guys not to detract from this interesting Sak stuff but I thought I’d contribute something useful. Placed my 4th order with panda recently and had super quick t/a like less than a week. However my tren is clear as test and doesn’t seem to be doing tren stuff after a few pins so we will see how that develops. Always have had good experiences with them before too so giving it the benefit of the doubt for now
 
Your grammar sucks balls, panda LOL.

How you run a business is beyond me.

Must be the paid reviews helping you get sales.
As does your mother. On mine. See you still haven’t managed to make it past 15 posts yet. Keep it up little buddy, you’ll make it to a full blow troll/shill account one day

Maybe you wouldn't have sold all that underdosed hgh and pip causing test e if you actually tested your gear
I’ve already posted numerous photos of my testing laboratory’s equipment time stamped. As I said previously, when the New Years is over and I return home. I’m going to provide you with a personalized photo with your username on my testing equipment

Hey guys not to detract from this interesting Sak stuff but I thought I’d contribute something useful. Placed my 4th order with panda recently and had super quick t/a like less than a week. However my tren is clear as test and doesn’t seem to be doing tren stuff after a few pins so we will see how that develops. Always have had good experiences with them before too so giving it the benefit of the doubt for now
Your tren raws would be light yellow no matter the ester, besides tren base which is dark yellow. If they were not yellow then it wasn’t tren you brewed
 
But what makes a Swiss or French accredited testing lab better then a Chinese accredited testing lab? Besides white people running the latter. Every sample I’ve ever sent them I just label as a number and they are able to establish which compound it is through mass spectrometer, then they run a HPLC on it and tell me the purity. Before when I was looking for a reputable clenbuterol supplier they saved me from getting ripped off from multiple suppliers selling caffeine as clenbuterol. Was a good day when I found a legit supplier. They have told me purity was low on some various raws batches so I was able to return them to the factory and trade them for a batch that wasn’t. They’ve never done wrong by me before. But I do like the idea of mixing all the raws and then taking the sample. I have a 15kg mixer in my warehouse for making tablets. Previously I’ve just been taking samples from multiple points in the barrel
I'm glad to hear that you're testing raws.
Keep a good communication with the lab so they can purchase additional reference standards for all steroids and esters sold.

Mixing is definitely needed to ensure consistent product quality. Otherwise you risk testing a good spot and accepting the batch, and then a customer gets it tested himself and finds it subpar.

As for the Chinese lab, it's like cars:
While a Chinese car may work fine, I'd rather drive a proven European brand on a lonely desert highway in summer. Even if just for peace of mind.
 
As does your mother. On mine. See you still haven’t managed to make it past 15 posts yet. Keep it up little buddy, you’ll make it to a full blow troll/shill account one day


I’ve already posted numerous photos of my testing laboratory’s equipment time stamped. As I said previously, when the New Years is over and I return home. I’m going to provide you with a personalized photo with your username on my testing equipment


Your tren raws would be light yellow no matter the ester, besides tren base which is dark yellow. If they were not yellow then it wasn’t tren you brewed

Sorry I wasn’t clear was talking about finished product not raws. At any rate it seems to be bunk, time will tell I guess
 
Sorry I wasn’t clear was talking about finished product not raws. At any rate it seems to be bunk, time will tell I guess
I personally brew every international product I sell. All of the international products are 10% overdosed as well as lab tested for dosage. There’s no possible way you could have received a “bunk” product from my international lab. You can PM me for the test report from the batch you purchased from if you send me the order number
 
I personally brew every international product I sell. All of the international products are 10% overdosed as well as lab tested for dosage. There’s no possible way you could have received a “bunk” product from my international lab. You can PM me for the test report from the batch you purchased from if you send me the order number
Are you saying you’re the only brewer of PPL international?
 
Are you saying you’re the only brewer of PPL international?
Yes I personally am the only one who physically does the brewing. I have help crimping the vials.

Did you start doing this after your test E was proven underdosed? Because I recall at the early stages of PPL you said and I quote "I never get my hands dirty" Remember !?! ;)
Welp that’s changed. When I closed my international shop for a while it was because my brewer moved back to his hometown. When I reopened it I resumed brewing for Panda. So yep, hands are dirty again. And now everything I brew is sent for analysis after it’s brewed. So there will never be an issue with dosage at this point. I’m continuing learning from past mistakes and constantly trying to improve. Anytime a mistake or problem does happen, I always rectify the problem
 
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I personally brew every international product I sell. All of the international products are 10% overdosed as well as lab tested for dosage. There’s no possible way you could have received a “bunk” product from my international lab. You can PM me for the test report from the batch you purchased from if you send me the order number

If everything is tested and you trust your raws, why would you overdose them? You want people to think your shit is pure fire, huh?
 
If everything is tested and you trust your raws, why would you overdose them? You want people to think your shit is pure fire, huh?
It’s standard among sources I sell to. Even the large well respected sources here on meso I sell to. If I don’t do this when people take blood tests and my products don’t show as high as other sources, people will think it’s because I underdose my products. Even phamcom states on their website that a variance of +/- 10% is considered acceptable to them
 

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I always brewed with an extra 10% because that's what I learned to do through others and it's held to be a good move imo. Nothing beats true data but an extra 10% never hurts. Unless it's fent....
 
As does your mother. On mine. See you still haven’t managed to make it past 15 posts yet. Keep it up little buddy, you’ll make it to a full blow troll/shill account one day


I’ve already posted numerous photos of my testing laboratory’s equipment time stamped. As I said previously, when the New Years is over and I return home. I’m going to provide you with a personalized photo with your username on my testing equipment


Your tren raws would be light yellow no matter the ester, besides tren base which is dark yellow. If they were not yellow then it wasn’t tren you brewed
I got tren e raws that I wouldn't describe as yellow. Maybe off white or beige at best. The tren a raws I have are more yellow but very faint coloring. And have brewed tren in eo or mct that was super clear when done. Some from you and some from another source both without further testing did what I expected from tren. So I wouldn't say it's always yellow.
 
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