PurplePandaLabs Raw source

It means that they aren’t filtered. So basically the idea is that you can order a bunch of unfiltered gear for cheap, then filter it yourself and save money. IMO, if your gonna take the time to filter a bunch of oil, you may as well just brew it yourself...
I kinda agree with you but there is a huge upside to semi finished. if you’re comfortable with filtering and sterilization of vials and bottle you can bring in a shit ton of oil way easier than powder. Powders have to be packaged into something or hidden in items and if found look exactly like what they are. Drugs. Semi finished goes right into a bottle of hair care body care some sort of herbal drink whatever. It hides right in plain sight.
 
I kinda agree with you but there is a huge upside to semi finished. if you’re comfortable with filtering and sterilization of vials and bottle you can bring in a shit ton of oil way easier than powder. Powders have to be packaged into something or hidden in items and if found look exactly like what they are. Drugs. Semi finished goes right into a bottle of hair care body care some sort of herbal drink whatever. It hides right in plain sight.
This is true. Plus, all you really need is some Basic home brew filtration equipment. You could just buy some pre sterilized vials, filter, and voila.
 
@biggerben69 @Masterofron can either one of you expand on this whole queen thing and the post made quoting panda.
Well, I heard about the Queen yesterday. The post I made earlier in the Stanford thread about the Queen was my thinking out loud about whats important and how these sources are gonna have to be on point.
I hope Panda gets out in front of things. It could turn into a big fucking mess. There are times when money has to be spent and sacrifices made in the short run in order to ensure things don't come back to bite you in the ass later on.
I was just saying in a post the other day how there hasn't been more quality gear, with prices this low, in a very long time.
I imagine its easy for those without discipline and and a stringent work ethic to be a bit short sighted when things are good.
Experience in the business and surrounding yourself with those who are strong in an area you may be lacking is a good start.
The Queen supplied a large # of Panda types throughout China. With the Queen in a Chinese prison for the rest or her life, the future is forced hard labor. For the rest of us, things aren't that clear.
What's left is a partial vacuum, with no clear replacement for her. Capitalism has its advantages and would've helped us out here.
I wish I could trust that the best interests of the Community were going to be why decisions or actions are taken concerning this issue.
What could happen is in keeping with profits first is choosing a replacement based purely on keeping the bottom line at least where it is.
If dealing with smaller manufacturers with smaller sales volume prices are going to be more expensive.
It took a good amount of time to get where we are in terms of trust in our raw powders and all involved with them.....and honestly, its not trust its proof that came over time with a lot of testing.
Fact of the matter is that there isn't a shortage of raw steroid powders in china(save the exotics...supposedly.). There's a shortage of reputable men that trade in them.
That isn't a shot at Panda as I believe he's come a long way and navigated the waters in a land so distant and different than our own. He learned as he went along. He made mistakes along the way and lessons were learned. The big picture...gonna be interesting to see.
I think what's gonna help as far as relations with his customers are the things I've been reading here. Keeping his customers apprised of the situation as things happen.
The pattern seems to be when things are good and calm panda or an agent of his will show up. In times of stress and uncertainty we get nothing which only serves to exacerbate an already restless crowd.
Discipline and maturity. I'd like to see a commitment made to a schedule of pandas design that his customers to grow to trust. If the schedule says every Wednesday between 9am and 3pm panda will post an update of current events or whatever it is he comes up with...then there's gonna be an update posted. A little consideration goes a long way in our personal lives and certainly in this business.
Something similar may already of been suggested and discussed....these uncertain times demand it.
 
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Go the underground, read the threads, and pick you one of the many sources that sells tren e

Alright.
I read that this is originallly a forum to discuss sources with.
Im not just going to pick a random source in a crapshoot.
I homebrew and in my opinion tren raws are severly lacking in quality from alot of these sources.
 
Alright.
I read that this is originallly a forum to discuss sources with.
Im not just going to pick a random source in a crapshoot.
I homebrew and in my opinion tren raws are severly lacking in quality from alot of these sources.
You tried ppl tren raws ? How are they ?
 
Well, I heard about the Queen yesterday. The post I made earlier in the Stanford thread about the Queen was my thinking out loud about whats important and how these sources are gonna have to be on point.
I hope Panda gets out in front of things. It could turn into a big fucking mess. There are times when money has to be spent and sacrifices made in the short run in order to ensure things don't come back to bite you in the ass later on.
I was just saying in a post the other day how there hasn't been more quality gear, with prices this low, in a very long time.
I imagine its easy for those without discipline and and a stringent work ethic to be a bit short sighted when things are good.
Experience in the business and surrounding yourself with those who are strong in an area you may be lacking is a good start.
The Queen supplied a large # of Panda types throughout China. With the Queen in a Chinese prison for the rest or her life, the future is forced hard labor. For the rest of us, things aren't that clear.
What's left is a partial vacuum, with no clear replacement for her. Capitalism has its advantages and would've helped us out here.
I wish I could trust that the best interests of the Community were going to be why decisions or actions are taken concerning this issue.
What could happen is in keeping with profits first is choosing a replacement based purely on keeping the bottom line at least where it is.
If dealing with smaller manufacturers with smaller sales volume prices are going to be more expensive.
It took a good amount of time to get where we are in terms of trust in our raw powders and all involved with them.....and honestly, its not trust its proof that came over time with a lot of testing.
Fact of the matter is that there isn't a shortage of raw steroid powders in china(save the exotics...supposedly.). There's a shortage of reputable men that trade in them.
That isn't a shot at Panda as I believe he's come a long way and navigated the waters in a land so distant and different than our own. He learned as he went along. He made mistakes along the way and lessons were learned. The big picture...gonna be interesting to see.
I think what's gonna help as far as relations with his customers are the things I've been reading here. Keeping his customers apprised of the situation as things happen.
The pattern seems to be when things are good and calm panda or an agent of his will show up. In times of stress and uncertainty we get nothing which only serves to exacerbate an already restless crowd.
Discipline and maturity. I'd like to see a commitment made to a schedule of pandas design that his customers to grow to trust. If the schedule says every Wednesday between 9am and 3pm panda will post an update of current events or whatever it is he comes up with...then there's gonna be an update posted. A little consideration goes a long way in our personal lives and certainly in this business.
Something similar may already of been suggested and discussed....these uncertain times demand it.
Panda has never been very good at meeting the basic requirements you posted. Not has been very good at testing up front. My opinion is to be very careful going forward, and if you buy a lot of raws, spend your own money on testing
 
Alright.
I read that this is originallly a forum to discuss sources with.
Im not just going to pick a random source in a crapshoot.
I homebrew and in my opinion tren raws are severly lacking in quality from alot of these sources.
This is a forum based primarily on harm reduction. It’s not a source board. Not to mention ain’t no spoon feeding going in around here. Put in your own work and base a decision on what you’ve read in the threads.
 
It means that they aren’t filtered. So basically the idea is that you can order a bunch of unfiltered gear for cheap, then filter it yourself and save money. IMO, if your gonna take the time to filter a bunch of oil, you may as well just brew it yourself...

Gotcha - So, it already comes dissolved with carrier oil, BB, BA - but just not filtered? That's interesting.
 
Gotcha - So, it already comes dissolved with carrier oil, BB, BA - but just not filtered? That's interesting.
Correct! Yeh it’s an odd concept, but it has its perks, and these china sources have been offering it for awhile. I always used to see shit sources like LMC or allianceraws talk about it, but now I see other more reputable vendors like PPL and Dragon are offering them too.
 
Each pack of raws should have a small label with an identifying code on it. If you don’t understand it, go to the website and check the pages of the raws you ordered and the identifier will be displayed there.

Edit: You May have to open the outer bag of each raw to be able to see the label. They are double bagged.


The package I assumed was deca is in fact marked right and it is liquid 100% so since I cant identify what it is im going to toss it
 
You tried ppl tren raws ? How are they ?

Not very potent..the tren hex seems to be a bit better though
I had a cheap source of finaplix-h in the past, which is out of stock.
But compared to that, the ppl hex,enanthate or ace fall flat.
Takes atleast 500-700 to see some results
 
I did and from further research I found another source of info claiming nandrolone powder has a melting point of about 33deg Celsius or 91F so its actually possiblr since its been so hot
Contact them. I think your off with something. But would rather not say and just have you ask them. It has to do with how much you ordered.
 
Dragon has existed for 8 months....

That's reputable!??
It’s my opinion based off my multiple orders with him. Plus, he doesn’t spam emails 20 times a day like those other shit raw sources do. PPL and Dragon are the only two I would ever trust. Again, my opinion and as I always say, it’s meaningless to everyone except for myself lol.
 
So... I’m gonna write about what’s been happening in the domestic China raws market recently. Since everyone wants to be keep in the loop. I’ll oblige.

About one month ago a company called YCG or YuanCheng Group was shut down by the government. Originally claims were made that they were being sued by the company who holds the patent for viagra in China. However, we’ve later come to find out that this was only a secondary reason they were shut down.

It’s now been brought to light the reason why the YC group was shut down was because they have been exporting fentanyl precursors for the last several years illegally. Multi governments around the world have complained enough to make the Chinese government take action against YuangCheng and its constituents.

So who was the “Queen of steroids” in all of this. Well, let me give you a brief background about the owner of YuanCheng. He’s a man, in his 60’s. Very wealthy. In China it is extremely important to pass on your name to a son. However, his wife gave him multiple daughters. So what do you do when your wife only gives you daughters and you’re rich in China? You just start fucking the hottest of your 500 employees you have at your main office.

Thus, a queen is born. The owner of YCG got 4 different women in his company pregnant(all didn’t give him sons either). His care package to the mother’s of his bastard children was he would sell them products from his factory for his price he makes them for. The raws he exported in from India would also be sold them for his cost.

So, she did what any sales person does. She sold stuff. She opened her raws sales office in a different part of China from where the YCG operated. She hired 15 employees all operating under the guise of being their own “company”. She purchased large amounts of stock from her baby’s daddy and started warehousing it in the city she lived and shipping it stealthed around the world. Once her shipping practices started gaining recognition for making it through customs. Her child’s father asked her to handle his export shipments where stealth needed to be used.

She became incredibly wealthy by owning her own company and shipping orders for her baby daddy. I’ve personally stayed at her 4 story mansion with an elevator, rode in her Bentley and Rolls Royce. She was stupid rich, and hot. However, unknown to her, she had been shipping fentanyl precursors for her baby daddy.

The final straw was when a shipping container containing a large amount of the chemical called “npp”(not nandrolone Phenylpropionate) which is a main ingredient used in the manufacturing process of fentanyl was stopped by a country’s customs. They contacted the CDE(China Drug Enforcement) with the export information of the shipping container. The CDE then tracked the container back to the queen and then back to the owner of the YC group.

Then the owner of the YC group and the 4 women who he had impregnated and whom had started raws sales offices were arrested on conspiracy to export fentanyl precursors charges.

Each one of those four woman who had sales offices each had a minimum of 15-20 sales employees all with their own “raws company”. Anyone wondered why so many raws companies have disappeared or closed down or are on a “break”. It’s because their boss and their means to ship products are gone. In total the YC group had 700 sales employees all selling chemicals of various kinds, however, since their factory made steroids mainly, their main products were steroids.

And yes, it is true, I purchased my exotic steroids and some of the medical powders through the queen. This is obviously why my raws list has shorted. However, I’m working my best to expand the list again. But for each new supplier for each new raw I have to send samples to my testing lab here and it takes a minute to get test reports back. So it’s a slow process bringing the list back to its previous hefty selection. And also, some of the chemicals I previously had aren’t made in China(Raloxifene is one example). The owner of the YC group had a pharmaceutical api export company in India where he would purchase certain raws and ship them back to China. As of last week I started the process of opening a pharma api export company in India too to do this same thing. My list will be expanding considerably in the coming months.

Even though I will never get the same prices the queen got for raws(because her baby’s father had a 15million dollar steroid factory) I will continue to offer my prices for the lowest I possibly can while still allowing me to buy gas for the Ferrari.

Hope this helps clear up any theories floating around.

Also, at this time I’m appointing a new rep for my company on Meso. As much as I wish I could daily check all the forums and add that personal touch. I can’t. Between managing employees, making products, problem solving, dealing with scammers and extortionists, handling certain orders and being a husband and father I just don’t have the time to sleep let alone daily check the forums. I wake up at 7am every day and sleep around 3am. Now that so many of my competitors have died off the work load has only worsened considerably.

Once my new reps account is approved I will introduce him. If in the future, someone has a problem or question my rep can’t solve or my customer service staff can’t answer. Just add my wickr and shoot me a message: soflakidinchina I don’t typically answer PMs on here. And, please guys, if my new rep is doing a shit job message me personally and if I see he actually is doing a shit job I’ll fire him and find a new rep.
 
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