PurplePandaLabs Raw source

[Evom1]

Thank


Thanks guys, I’m a newb with this crypto stuff.

Triple check it after you copy and paste. And yes they're case sensitive so copy and paste, don't retype

 

[noggin]

Technically not true. Warrant officers are the exception

Respectfully

Correct, Warrant officers only need a high school diploma. Most of the ones I knew were pilots and they had colleges degrees though not required.

Commissioned officers have to have a college degree.

By “officer” I was referring to commissioned officers. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Nate42]

Emailed Panda this morning and he got back to me letting me know I’ll get a refund. For anyone who has used blockchain, do I just go to “request”, then copy that address and paste it in my email back to Panda? I haven’t used it before so just making sure

Yes I use block chain and that's what I did to received mine

 

[LordSamuilo]

Are international raws also contaminated?

Yes.....anthrax i heard ?!

Seriously though , how could the raws be contaminated?

 

[PurplePandaLabs Rep.]

Are international raws also contaminated?

No sir
The issue is with domestic finished products
We test all new batches of raws before selling and periodically check or international finished products.
The only thing we haven't been sending off for testing is domestic finished products which after this I can assure you they will also be sent in for testing that could have possibly prevented this problem.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Raws aren't a concern. Only finished oils domestic for sure, international maybe.

How do we know raws aren't a concern? Anyone confirmed this?
Had testing done ?

 

[Roger rabbit]

No sir
The issue is with domestic finished products
We test all new batches of raws before selling and periodically check or international finished products.
The only thing we haven't been sending off for testing is domestic finished products which after this I can assure you they will also be sent in for testing that could have possibly prevented this problem.

And who tests the raws?
The manufacturer?
Who's to say before being sent to customer the raws arent tampered with?

Remember .. employees in china are messing with the raws... why wouldn't they want to possibly take a cut of the product and cut with something ?
Then stock pile and sell somewhere else?


Someone is breaking down the kilos or whatever amount and packing into grams and sending out.

Who is to say someone didn't drop powder on floor and scoop up and bag?


Too many possibilities to just say nothing is wrong with raws ever.

I keep seeing members and ppl say this.

 

[preserve36]

Just wanted to give a shout out. Merry Christmas yall!

 

[PurplePandaLabs Rep.]

And who tests the raws?
The manufacturer?
Who's to say before being sent to customer the raws arent tampered with?

Remember .. employees in china are messing with the raws... why wouldn't they want to possibly take a cut of the product and cut with something ?
Then stock pile and sell somewhere else?


Someone is breaking down the kilos or whatever amount and packing into grams and sending out.

Who is to say someone didn't drop powder on floor and scoop up and bag?


Too many possibilities to just say nothing is wrong with raws ever.

I keep seeing members and ppl say this.

I agree there can be human error on anything but to cut raws you would have to find something with the same molecule weight which only that specific steroid has or close to it which would still peak different on mass spec
There's UGL's here that use and have themselves tested our raws.
But I agree with a human involved there's always a possibility of human error and I certainly understand your skepticism after the recent events and respect your point of view.

 

[Surfj9009]

Very good idea but it really needs to be done in a laboratory environment because the risk of contamination is so easy with agar disks unless you have a glovebox with filtered air running into it

I can do this the first week of January when I go back to work in the microbiology lab after my Christmas vacation time. I got some tren ace domestic that landed about a week before this issue came up. It looks great...no contaminants, but I can certainly check it, although I would also say that with the BA in it, the odds of finding anything are very very slim.

 

[Surfj9009]

Panda rep told me that the raws are from a different sender. That Elite did not have anything to do with the raws.

My order that landed a short time ago came in two packages from two locations. Raws and oils were definitly from separate senders, unless PPL was having elite drive a good ways away from location one to ship location Two

 

[OldmanRob]

My order that landed a short time ago came in two packages from two locations. Raws and like we’re definitly from separate senders, unless PPL was having elite drive a good ways away from location one to ship location Two

Mine were from two different places as well.

 

[Surfj9009]

You just need to test several samples from the same vial. Then you need all of them to grow to prove it's something from the vial and not outside contamination. The odds of all of them getting contaminated while setting up the dish are extremely low. Well, extremely low assuming you don't set them up inside a dog house like Elite used to brew gear.

This is why you always set up a control agar plate

 

[Surfj9009]

ANYTHING BOUGHT DOMESTICALLY WITHIN THE LAST MONTH IS CONTAMINATED. End of story...whether you see floaters or not.

Hard to say this unless you can actually prove it. I’m not a shill, but I do understand microbiology and lab safety. Unless you are testing this and can demonstrate bacterial growth in a controlled environment, your full of shit and speculating.

 

[Brolloks]

Hard to say this unless you can actually prove it. I’m not a shill, but I do understand microbiology and lab safety. Unless you are testing this and can demonstrate bacterial growth in a controlled environment, your full of shit and speculating.

If you understand lab safety, and see reports from just about every order confirming visible contaminants in the product, you don't need to be a brain surgeon to draw conclusions.

Likewise, everyone expressly denying they're a shill normally turns out to be one.

 

[Steve84]

Hard to say this unless you can actually prove it. I’m not a shill, but I do understand microbiology and lab safety. Unless you are testing this and can demonstrate bacterial growth in a controlled environment, your full of shit and speculating.

It's the same brewer! What the fck do you think he would do differently???
Oh today I wanna be sterile, tomorrow I dont?
Everything done by this brewer shouldn't be trusted period.
He did it for ppl, he did it on elite. Same story over and over.

 

[Surfj9009]

If you understand lab safety, and see reports from just about every order confirming visible contaminants in the product, you don't need to be a brain surgeon to draw conclusions.

Likewise, everyone expressly denying they're a shill normally turns out to be one.

Haha. Right. Well I recieved my order on the 16th, after ordering it on the 11th. This was before any of this current issue came to light. Was my product sitting on the shelf for 6 months? No idea....but to say ALL PRODUCTS shipped in the last month are contaminated is certainly not accurate, unless of course the person who said that is actually testing them.
When it comes to hairs and filter media....yes....it is fair to draw conclusions as you said....but I would say it is wrong to lump all products in without actually having proof to back up such a statement.
But I suppose as a scientist that actually deals with OBJECTIVE DATA, I would naturally tend to have an issue with somebody who tries to pass of SUBJECTIVE DATA as objective.Big difference. Google that shit if it doesn’t make sense.
I’ll run a controlled test in nutrient agar in about two weeks for ya, and I’ll post the results here. As a matter of fact, how about I run the test at air temp and also run it at human body temp?
I suppose if I was a shill I could set that up and lie about the results huh?
And what do I have to gain from that. Come on man. Be realistic. Believe me...I have an interest in knowing if it was contaminated as well. I’m not gonna toss it unless I know....easy test to run and takes a few days. If it is contaminated I can even tell you exactly what it is.
You think I want to inject contaminated gear? Fuck that...I agree this is a serious issue....but ai’ also saying people need to be reasonable.

 

[OldmanRob]

Haha. Right. Well I recieved my order on the 16th, after ordering it on the 11th. This was before any of this current issue came to light. Was my product sitting on the shelf for 6 months? No idea....but to say ALL PRODUCTS shipped in the last month are contaminated is certainly not accurate, unless of course the person who said that is actually testing them.
When it comes to hairs and filter media....yes....it is fair to draw conclusions as you said....but I would say it is wrong to lump all products in without actually having proof to back up such a statement.
But I suppose as a scientist that actually deals with OBJECTIVE DATA, I would naturally tend to have an issue with somebody who tries to pass of SUBJECTIVE DATA as objective.Big difference. Google that shit if it doesn’t make sense.
I’ll run a controlled test in nutrient agar in about two weeks for ya, and I’ll post the results here. As a matter of fact, how about I run the test at air temp and also run it at human body temp?
I suppose if I was a shill I could set that up and lie about the results huh?
And what do I have to gain from that. Come on man. Be realistic. Believe me...I have an interest in knowing if it was contaminated as well. I’m not gonna toss it unless I know....easy test to run and takes a few days. If it is contaminated I can even tell you exactly what it is.
You think I want to inject contaminated gear? Fuck that...I agree this is a serious issue....but ai’ also saying people need to be reasonable.

It came from a dipshit letting his cats fuck on the brew table. Shove your science up your ass on a petri dish.

You wanna get all scientific on shit, how about probability. It is very high that everything made in that bathroom is tainted but it does not take a degree to figure that out.

 

[OldmanRob]

I have shit from elite while he was still selling under elite with hair in it.

Then he sold shit for panda with hair in it. Enjoy the orals but remember the pussy your tasting does not have a clit attached to it.

 

[Surfj9009]

I have shit from elite while he was still selling under elite with hair in it.

Then he sold shit for panda with hair in it. Enjoy the orals but remember the pussy your tasting does not have a clit attached to it.

I don’t eat fuzzy pussy so I wouldn’t know the taste anyhow.
Either way though...I wouldn’t order oils from them again, or anybody for that matter...and this just reinforces my need to start brewing my own gear. As far as my oils, I’m just going to filter them with a .02 and call it good.

This was my first time ordering domestic...and believe this...I am very disappointed. I’ve always been nervous to do so, but thankfully I can see there is a trustworthy review and vetting process at Meso.

And ya....fuck all that science shit huh? It’s not like having a Doctorate in biochemistry and microbiology is actually useful.
If the majority of folks here agree that PPL is done then I won’t waste my time running cultures or an EnteroPluri test. It’s no skin off my back