Wannaflybob
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5th order success. Exactly 2 weeks from order to landing for international US reship. Everything accounted for, just waiting on reply for SKUs. Happy as always with QSC
MESO-Rx
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Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic
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FINALLY have a TD. Almost 80 fuckin days since order placed. Don't blame QSC at all. Just a shipping and logistical nightmare. Packs were shipped in a timely manner and communication was prompt when needed and everything seems to be in order.
Bravo Wins
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Still waiting for a pen shipped from international, never received a tracking number. Can you check if it was shipped or send me one of these?
Rido
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Genuinely happy for you. I know all of us were stressed at that time.
AlexDavis43
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Iirc, someone posted a study showing Test U in castor oil having a longer half-life than other carrier oils, but that was the first I heard of BB having an effect.
Appreciate it man. And thank you for keeping me cool lol. Time to get to brewing, capping, and crimping.
vigorous Steve did a video on carrier oils and castor is his fav , for this reason
Date_Mike
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That’s interesting. Please share if you come across it again.
It’s been asked 3-4 times in the last week or so, qsc hasn’t answered anyone but I believe in July he said restock soon, unless it was seized …
Don't have the full text but im pretty sure this is the one: Intramuscular injection of testosterone undecanoate for the treatment of male hypogonadism: phase I studies
I got mine today in exactly 2 weeks as well. Also waiting on reply to figure out what's what
MaxGainz
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Getting me through those paywalls! You're a God. TYSo, bit of a difference between your "hepatotoxic" and my "stresses the liver". Typical liver stress indicators will be AST aka SGOT, ALT aka SGPT, HDL, and LDL. Oxandrolone is known to make these all worse.
Overall, you'll want your liver functioning at its best to help keep your HDL high, and LDL low ... and while generally we like to keep our AST and ALT low as well, it's worth noting that elevated levels don't always mean there's anything wrong with the liver -- it's possible to have elevated AST and ALT but actual liver functioning to be normal.
More if you want to find and click through a few yourself : Google Scholar -- (can use Sci-Hub: emancipation and democratisation of knowledge to access most paywalled papers)
A few additional selected resources:
("oxandrolone markedly increases hepatic lipase activity" ... seems consistent with "stresses the liver")
"Cholestatic jaundice with, rarely, hepatic necrosis and death; hepatocellular neoplasms and peliosis hepatis with long-term therapy; reversible changes in liver function tests also occur including increased bromsulfophthalein (BSP) retention, changes in alkaline phosphatase and increases in serum bilirubin, aspartate aminotransferase (AST, SGOT) and alanine aminotransferase (ALT, SGPT)."
Oxandrolone Side Effects: Common, Severe, Long Term
Learn about the side effects of oxandrolone, from common to rare, for consumers and healthcare professionals.www.drugs.com
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2005/013718s023lbl.pdf (big ass giant warning in all caps on first page about liver cysts, liver failure, and liver cancer)
As for:
I don't know much about internal medicine. But I have noticed that Doxycycline (the current recommended treatment for chlamydia) is also not processed by the liver (it is primarily excreted by the gut and kidneys) but is also known to cause liver stress and in some cases, hepatotoxicity. Its half-life is also significantly increased in people who have a low-functioning or damaged liver. So, this logic about where something is processed vs. what it affects is definitely not always a clear-cut relationship.
You think TUDCA and BPC-157 are enough to protect the liver?
BPC-157 is good for the liver but these studies are for specific types of damage:
Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 and its effects on a NSAID toxicity model: diclofenac-induced gastrointestinal, liver, and encephalopathy lesions - PubMed
The very extensive antagonization of diclofenac toxicity achieved with BPC 157 (μg-/ng-regimen, intraperitoneally, per-orally) may encourage its further use as a therapy to counteract diclofenac- and other NSAID-induced toxicity.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Hepatoprotective effect of BPC 157, a 15-amino acid peptide, on liver lesions induced by either restraint stress or bile duct and hepatic artery ligation or CCl4 administration. A comparative study with dopamine agonists and somatostatin - PubMed
The hepatoprotective effects of a newly synthesized 15 amino acid fragment code named BPC 157 was evaluated in comparison with the reference standards (bromocriptine, amantadine and somatostatin) in various experimental models of liver injury in rats: 24 h-bile duct+hepatic artery ligation 48...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And while we're sharing research tools. Check out elicit.org
It uses Chatgpt to sort through most research data bases and summarize the results.
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MA11
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The 350 mg/ml Test Undecanoate has been around for more than half a year. It sounds fantastic for TRT but it seems that the concentration is too high for the quoted reason. Are there more experiences by now?
No clue. I’d have to do more research. I suspect TUDCA can be helpful in some situations but it’s complicated … I recall there’s some research that if you take TUDCA as a normal healthy person with no AAS / ethanol / etc use, then TUDCA can actually damage the liver. It’s not clear to me where the lines are between “safe vs. unsafe” and “helpful vs. harmful” are. There’s a lot of recommended protocols out there but I’d need to comb through and document a massive amount of bloodwork postings before I’d even have a chance of establishing any kind of pattern.Getting me through those paywalls! You're a God. TY
You think TUDCA and BPC-157 are enough to protect the liver?
BPC-157 is good for the liver but these studies are for specific types of damage:
Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 and its effects on a NSAID toxicity model: diclofenac-induced gastrointestinal, liver, and encephalopathy lesions - PubMed
The very extensive antagonization of diclofenac toxicity achieved with BPC 157 (μg-/ng-regimen, intraperitoneally, per-orally) may encourage its further use as a therapy to counteract diclofenac- and other NSAID-induced toxicity.Hepatoprotective effect of BPC 157, a 15-amino acid peptide, on liver lesions induced by either restraint stress or bile duct and hepatic artery ligation or CCl4 administration. A comparative study with dopamine agonists and somatostatin - PubMed
The hepatoprotective effects of a newly synthesized 15 amino acid fragment code named BPC 157 was evaluated in comparison with the reference standards (bromocriptine, amantadine and somatostatin) in various experimental models of liver injury in rats: 24 h-bile duct+hepatic artery ligation 48...
And while we're sharing research tools. Check out elicit.org
It uses Chatgpt to sort through most research data bases and summarize the results.
Tauroursodeoxycholic acid for treatment of primary biliary cirrhosis. A dose-response study - PubMed
Tauroursodeoxycholic acid, a highly hydrophilic bile acid, may be of therapeutic value for chronic cholestatic liver diseases. We performed a dose-response study on 24 patients with primary biliary cirrhosis who were randomly assigned to receive 500, 1000, or 1500 mg daily of...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Didn’t realize BPC-157 can help the liver. Will read up on that.
NAC is also helpful to the liver but allegedly chelates zinc and copper so can be helpful to supplement that (citation very much needed here…I might be wrong). Additionally it promotes the initiation of lung cancer and promotes growth of it:
No fucking clue overall. I’d probably rather protect my liver, so at least NAC makes sense. As for TUDCA I personally need to do more research on before taking anything which might require TUDCA. I personally shouldn’t take BPC-157 due to very personal risk factors which don’t apply to almost anyone else, so I don’t know much about its risk-benefit profile. Then again, I doubt it’s researched enough for anyone to.
I’m a lot stricter about facts when other people ask me things than I am when I ask myself. I have a high risk tolerance for actions that only directly affect myself, but a low risk tolerance for advice that affects others.
Just skimmed those papers. Based on their results I’d expect a lot more research on BPC-157 to be available from the past decade or so. Will have to look for more.Getting me through those paywalls! You're a God. TY
You think TUDCA and BPC-157 are enough to protect the liver?
BPC-157 is good for the liver but these studies are for specific types of damage:
Pentadecapeptide BPC 157 and its effects on a NSAID toxicity model: diclofenac-induced gastrointestinal, liver, and encephalopathy lesions - PubMed
The very extensive antagonization of diclofenac toxicity achieved with BPC 157 (μg-/ng-regimen, intraperitoneally, per-orally) may encourage its further use as a therapy to counteract diclofenac- and other NSAID-induced toxicity.Hepatoprotective effect of BPC 157, a 15-amino acid peptide, on liver lesions induced by either restraint stress or bile duct and hepatic artery ligation or CCl4 administration. A comparative study with dopamine agonists and somatostatin - PubMed
The hepatoprotective effects of a newly synthesized 15 amino acid fragment code named BPC 157 was evaluated in comparison with the reference standards (bromocriptine, amantadine and somatostatin) in various experimental models of liver injury in rats: 24 h-bile duct+hepatic artery ligation 48...
And while we're sharing research tools. Check out elicit.org
It uses Chatgpt to sort through most research data bases and summarize the results.
Date_Mike
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Tracy has been MIA but packs have been moving noticeably faster so fuck it, I prefer back-end efficiency over anything
Mrgiuoco
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I just placed order to ship to Australia. Will update you guys how long it takes for anyone interested in Australian shipping times.
LSDPowerlifting
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I’ve been getting mine 2 weeks from payment received
Mrgiuoco
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Nice. And your in Australia aye ?
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