Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

Dam this thread is going to stay on top, with all the back and forth, which means even more business. So in a way calling someone who maybe an idiot an idiot was actually genious. Lol
 
This board has a lot of brewers/lab owners on it. And realize some of these guys are making 300,000 a year., when you get $ involved it gets nasty..

I had the same thought, I’ll take 1/10 underdosed at 1/10 the price elsewhere.

I’m guessing their quality will only continue to improve.

For the price, you can’t refuse a shot


If it’s 1/10 underdosed and 1/10 of the price then that equals out to be the same pricing as other labs, except you don’t need to use / inject 10x more product. Kinda like your deca, I understand you only have 1 cycle under your belt, but injecting a lot of oil can cause a lot of issues itself.

Your analogies you use to bolster your point of selling cheap products makes sense to some extent.

Yes people like cheap products and will choose cheap options when they can, but few are willing to sacrifice such quality even if it means getting a cheap product.

Do you think most people walk into a liquor store and pick up a bottle off the bottom shelf that costs $6 and is god awful or do you think most people pick something a little higher quality that won’t break the bank, but isn’t dirt cheap.

Same with craft beer, most people are willing to spend a couple extra bucks to enjoy a nice local craft beer over miller lite.

We see the same thing happening in the ever growing cannabis industry, people pay good money for good products and ignore the bottom tier shit low priced products. cheap does not equal good and good does not equal cheap.

Something needs to give so when someone says something is “cheap and great” that’s usually not the case.
 
This place really has become a lost cause and not worth the effort anymore. Idk if it was an intended or unintended consequence of the bans to change the direction of meso but it did. To many people willing to accept a shit rep and shit finished products. If money isn't an object for our resident meso millionaires then why flock to cheap prices for a cheap source. I have no doubt there's some ulterior motives when hammering sources but most members used to do it because we gave a shit about this place. Now it's just Messto based off what I've heard about sst. I'm glad I'm not desperate for a source like a lot of the transplants are. Oh well like elections, decisions have consequences and this is what it's become. Ffs giving credit to the most obvious shill troll that has ever polluted meso with his posts just continues the downhill spiral.

Meh enough out of me. Get off my fucking lawn.
 
Leaving the quality alone for a minute...

You are absolutely the worst fucking rep. Maybe this guy doesnt know any better and its his first time, and you call him an idiot.... you are the fucking idiot in how you treat your customers. If this siurce truly has 11 reps (doubtful) then they need to fire this guy and diatance themselves from. He is an absolute fucking tool.
Many of you have been insulting him daily and making fun of him for months, and you want him not to say anything
 
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I've kept tabs on this thread quietly while running through my boxes of QDS BPC for the last several months. I sold the Tesa as I went a different direction trying out GH again, but, that was a flop.

the progress has been interesting. Skank coming in was a net positive for both tests, showing the HCG issue and then the var. I'm sure I'll get blitzed for this but the Var was perfectly acceptable to me. I acknowledge the variance is a bit wowza but in the real world application, in my eyes (AGAIN I know others disagree) it's pretty much just fine.

definitely seems to be a lot of ego going around. you guys - despite the rep's often questionable (but always hilarious) attitude towards things - you haven't figured it out? he is just as much of a cunt as we all are, so I would imagine some level of respect would be shown from that angle alone. I get his side. if people are gonna be retards then he's gonna be one right back. eye for an eye kind of thing.

the HCG testing / $42 missed out upon refund was a bit nutty, but who knows what went on behind the scenes first. what seems to be constant (I think? if I'm wrong correct me) is if you just go to them/him privately, cordially (read: NOT trying to blow anyone, just don't be cunts off the bat?) then odds are you'll be sorted out. Is this 100% accurate? ofc not. Nothing is. I got ghosted by Opti for months privately until I posted in his thread about it. He made it right, but point is shit happens regardless of the source. Stan and Skank are the exceptions thus far. Their prices reflect their service.

TL;DR if you want Walmart pricing expect Walmart service. Honey goes a long way. If you want Whole Foods, well, you know where to go then.

I need more BPC soon and theirs has kept my back injury / sciatica / whatever the fuck it is very well at bay. I'll grab Tesa also if I'm not blacklisted (lol) for flying off at the man months ago, if I am then I'll get it elsewhere. but staying a bit more objective might serve some of y'all a bit better with it all.
 
Many of you have been insulting him daily and making fun of him for months, and you want him not to say anything
He is the source and a guest here, good customer service should be a priority. I quit posting in this thread until I seen him call.a customer an idiot for not understanding what customs sent him, not only that he did that in an open forum.
 
Anybody try there HGH yet? N no I don’t wanna hear “it’s probly Underdosed like there HCG blah blah…” let me know
Been on it for a few months. Continued on from another known brand and haven't noticed a drop off. Running cyp and primo also. I'll do bloods with igf in a month. The Cialis is definitely good and the GH. Feels are there for the oils I mentioned but don't have anything to back it yet besides their own testing with Jano.
 
This board has a lot of brewers/lab owners on it. And realize some of these guys are making 300,000 a year., when you get $ involved it gets nasty..

I had the same thought, I’ll take 1/10 underdosed at 1/10 the price elsewhere.

I’m guessing their quality will only continue to improve.

For the price, you can’t refuse a shot
Here you go with your dumbass assumptions again that have no basis in reality
 
Dam this thread is going to stay on top, with all the back and forth, which means even more business. So in a way calling someone who maybe an idiot an idiot was actually genious. Lol

Hope it lasts, and the prices stay. As i am actually oddly ok with just being up front about everything then hidding even the shittiest results, as we can pick and chose what to order.

@Cherokee makes sense in most of what he says, not sure why the hate.


I do not see an issue with the var as those doses, are pretty spot on. If it was picked truely random, like said.
I don’t think anyone is arguing with his logic about the pricing structure, but he’s such a little cock sucker and he goes into other vendor threads and tries to shit on them, and then he treats everyone else, that doesn’t agree with his opinions on how to spend their own money, as an idiot.

And he tries to call anyone that disagrees with him a source that bitching about another vendor coming in at a cheaper price. He’s delusional
 
If it’s 1/10 underdosed and 1/10 of the price then that equals out to be the same pricing as other labs, except you don’t need to use / inject 10x more product. Kinda like your deca, I understand you only have 1 cycle under your belt, but injecting a lot of oil can cause a lot of issues itself.
You get test from one vendor who wants $35 for it, lets assume it's 100%
Buy it from Q, lets say it's 1/10 underused, that still leaves you with %90

So apples to apples 90 % of $35 is still $31.50

Once again, do you want to pay $7 NO shipping charge from Q, or $31.50 plus min order, and mess with bitcoin fee's?

7X30 Vials = $245
$31.50 X30 vials = $945

60X7 + $490
60X31.5=$1,890


This is simple math. Now I know why the supermarkets play with all the different sized products at different prices, it confuses most people.

Your analogies you use to bolster your point of selling cheap products makes sense to some extent.

Yes people like cheap products and will choose cheap options when they can, but few are willing to sacrifice such quality even if it means getting a cheap product.

Do you think most people walk into a liquor store and pick up a bottle off the bottom shelf that costs $6 and is god awful or do you think most people pick something a little higher quality that won’t break the bank, but isn’t dirt cheap.

Same with craft beer, most people are willing to spend a couple extra bucks to enjoy a nice local craft beer over miller lite.

We see the same thing happening in the ever growing cannabis industry, people pay good money for good products and ignore the bottom tier shit low priced products. cheap does not equal good and good does not equal cheap.
Having sold, imported products for years, it's called marketing. Giving a product "value". Putting a MAP ( Min advertised Price) on a product, allowing your dealers to only sell above a certain price. I've seen many products sold at the real level at a high price tag, that were of a lower quality, than products at a lower price, that were not being price fixed. Thats a big misconception you get what you pay for... thats what marketing departments want you to believe, and why they jack prices up on products, creates the false belief it's better.

Something needs to give so when someone says something is “cheap and great” that’s usually not the case.
 
If a source wont refund a member $45 for half doses hcg… not only does that say enough about thei quality of their products, but of their customer service too.

“Oh, did we send you just oil no test? Go fuck yourself”

You get what you pay for. Always.
 
If a source wont refund a member $45 for half doses hcg… not only does that say enough about thei quality of their products, but of their customer service too.

“Oh, did we send you just oil no test? Go fuck yourself”

You get what you pay for. Always.
So, with your logic, people should buy the highest priced items?

The more it cost, the better it is?
 
@Cherokee

Just because you don't know how to use Bitcoin it doesn't mean that it isn't useful. I use a nano ledger and I've made enough money investing in crypto which allows me to purchase whatever I want and I don't pay any fees with the method I use.

For ME it's much easier and safer than using a credit card.

You seem to speak in absolutes as if your way is the only way that is most ideal. This is simply not the case.
 
@Cherokee

Just because you don't know how to use Bitcoin it doesn't mean that it isn't useful. I use a nano ledger and I've made enough money investing in crypto which allows me to purchase whatever I want and I don't pay any fees with the method I use.

For ME it's much easier and safer than using a credit card.
There is no safety with bitcoin, there are laws that protect a consumer with credit card purchases
 
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