My conclusion is based on my experience with long term freezing of lyophilized QSC semaglutide plus the warning from Ozempic. After close to a year in the freezer, the lyophilized product was inactive.
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Ghoul
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I froze some Ozempic pens by accident once. Still effective after thawing, however, I think the key is ONCE. The literature all points to multiple freeze thaw cycles as destructive. "Self defrosting" freezers are a big no no since they do this repeatedly.
The issue is we have no idea if the peptides we get have been previously frozen, I'm going to guess most vendors in asia are doing exactly that, in household and not lab freezers to make matters worse.
May have more to do with condensation making its way into the peptide vials (or the l peptide had too much moisture), after which undergoing freeze thaw cycles definitely damaged the peptide , else freezing lyophilized GLP1s should make them last longer.
I'm curious though, did you test for 'inactivity'
Pinnacle Elements
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Tren isn’t test. Test converts to E2 and DHT so there’s a lot more whiplash on fluctuations.
Tren for your first run absolutely pin ace ED, it’ll sustain blood levels enough and you can bail in case it doesn’t vibe with you.
Trust me brother, you don’t want to have bad sides then have it take a month to clear your system. When tren goes bad, it’s bad.
At the very least, use E. But still recommend daily ace for first run.
P.S- hormonal fluctions are natural. In fact, the body overcompensates E2 conversion with very steady Test levels. They’re suppose to fluctuate throughout the day.
AlexDavis43
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Do you really understand the difference or you just playing? Cuz I don't.
I mean, I know the difference between mammalian cells and E. Coli, but I got nothing on how this relates to GH side effects (pharma vs UGL) (which I'm not totally convinced about, having done plenty pharma & UGL GH)
Ghoul
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You'd think the differences would be well documented by now, concrete, down in writing given how many people use UGL HGH and the amount of time it's been available.
A compelling answer I heard was that most UGL HGH is overdosed to one degree or another, and the "sides" are simply what one would get from a higher dose than you think you're taking. But who knows. Is this stuff HGH or not? If not, what does 99.8% "Purity" and no dimer mean on the mass spectrometry tests? Aren't they comparing against a known reference sample and "close" or "fragments" don't constitute a match? @janoshik
I have not seen recombinant hgh being made from mammalian cells as gene editing requires plasmide that is only available in bacteria. You can edit mammalian gene too but that’s very difficult
Can you show me the stidy?
Can you show me the stidy?
Ghoul
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I don't think you intended to direct this response to me.
Spaceman Spiff
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I have used E. Worked great at 75-100mg/wk.
Yes sorry. @Pinnacle Elements please read my comment.
there is more than hgh sequence to the quality of hgh. The way it is folded plays a huge role in its function.
We've tested Seros more than once now and generally they test at higher purity than anything else.
However, the main difference, IMO, is in the cheapness of purification for the manufacturer and much less room for error and side effects from improper purification...
If you don't make your GH in E. Coli, you don't have to worry about endotoxin etc.
But those are just my observations and hypotheses.
However, the main difference, IMO, is in the cheapness of purification for the manufacturer and much less room for error and side effects from improper purification...
If you don't make your GH in E. Coli, you don't have to worry about endotoxin etc.
But those are just my observations and hypotheses.
bighunanballs
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I'm running tren e now at 8mg ED. Been adding the perfect amount of upsides with no downsides
Spaceman Spiff
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Good enough quality to just run it through an overnight saline infusion. Hell yeah
karambit
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Thats awesome! Thinking of doing the same
karambit
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Damn! Do you remember the minimum effective dosage was it 10mgs or less.
I had deep cycstic acne from 1997 to 1999, Doc had me on 40/day but me being the glutten that I am took 40mgs bid and it cleared totally in 6 weeks, barely a small pimple again regardless of AAS type. Lucky I only had bleeding cracked lips every day and only temp reduction of night vision. Thank god I didn't fall into a psychotic dark depression or permanent visual effects
Merica1776
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Nice. Thank you for sharing
bighunanballs
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inactive as in body feels or inactive via HPLC testing?
Start a thread for this , that's super interesting!
Ghoul
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I'm having great results on first 10mg ed, now 20mg ed with zero sides. The accutane calculator says I should be on 90mg ed. After 6 weeks so far all my gear induced back and shoulder acne has cleared and skin is smooth. Better results and feel better than months of antibiotics messing with my guts. Low dose isotretinoin is a hot "under the counter" cosmetic treatment now because it speeds up skin turnover and rebuilds collagen as well...
LGOP528
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Can you link the study? I would definitely be interested in giving it a go.
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