Recovery from 4 year blast and cruise.

[BirdieNumNum]

Wow you really are fucking stupid. It’s been 5 years mate and yeah, I had severe hypogonadism my muscle mass has changed DRASTICALLY. 5 years with a condition.

Anyway I’m recovered suck my balls icky go jab yerself

 

[BirdieNumNum]

While I’m certain he exaggerated how strong he was and muscular he was, he did cut the roids. 46lbs in a couple years is not only believable but inevitable if it was muscle gained from roids, once the stimulus is gone the muscle gained from it will disappear. I’m quite certain he was not deadlifting 700+ lbs with ease tho

You can be certain of whatever thee fuck you like. Us Irish are made of more ha ha bye fuckers, I don’t need to be here.
I hope this helps people who it needs to but IM OUT.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You’re all absolutely brain dead. I had severe HYPOGONADISM shall I say that again? I’m actually more than 200lbs I’m about 15stone. Yes I taken a lot of drugs, now, fucking suck it up.

 

[nervje]

You’re all absolutely brain dead. I had severe HYPOGONADISM shall I say that again? I’m actually more than 200lbs I’m about 15stone. Yes I taken a lot of drugs, now, fucking suck it up.

Are you still lifting?
Or doing other sports or not give a fuck about it anymore toom?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yeah ofcourse I still lift, I’m also a sports coach.

 

[ickyrica]

While I’m certain he exaggerated how strong he was and muscular he was, he did cut the roids. 46lbs in a couple years is not only believable but inevitable if it was muscle gained from roids, once the stimulus is gone the muscle gained from it will disappear. I’m quite certain he was not deadlifting 700+ lbs with ease tho

I have a hard time believing that that much muscle loss occurs when someone simply stops using steroids. He stated that he continued to workout so that's another factor that leads me to believe the muscle loss isnt real.

I'm sitting at just under 260 currently. If I don't use again for 5 years I potentially could be 45lbs lighter and a significantly higher bf% percentage? I have a hard time believing that. Are there real cases that can bolster this claim? He is stating that he lost 20% of his lean mass, seems unrealistic and drastic.

I had severe hypogonadism

no, you did not. The numbers you posted were within medical range. Just because you aren't happy with them doesnt mean you have an issue. It's a percieved issue. If you had hypogonadism you would have been put on trt

 

[nervje]

I have a hard time believing that that much muscle loss occurs when someone simply stops using steroids. He stated that he continued to workout so that's another factor that leads me to believe the muscle loss isnt real.

I'm sitting at just under 260 currently. If I don't use again for 5 years I potentially could be 45lbs lighter and a significantly higher bf% percentage? I have a hard time believing that. Are there real cases that can bolster this claim? He is stating that he lost 20% of his lean mass, seems unrealistic and drastic.

no, you did not. The numbers you posted were within medical range. Just because you aren't happy with them doesnt mean you have an issue. It's a percieved issue. If you had hypogonadism you would have been put on trt

Ive been using gear for 5 years now (obviously lol), started when i had 200lbs in fat, and turned myself into 220lbs ripped (by times ive been up to 240lbs).
During the last periods of trt ive done, i was at 216lbs, now im into serms pct and already down to 205lbs and feeling small as shit

 

[ickyrica]

Ive been using gear for 5 years now (obviously lol), started when i had 200lbs in fat, and turned myself into 220lbs ripped (by times ive been up to 240lbs).
During the last periods of trt ive done, i was at 216lbs, now im into serms pct and already down to 205lbs and feeling small as shit

I understand that we can change in weight, but what we are talking about is lean muscle mass.

246lbs and "ripped as fuck" to 200lbs and around 20% bf. That's a massive drop in lbm. While it may seem that the topic is now that a human can't loose that much mass just by simply dropping anabolics, my entire point to all of this was the OP was and still is a complete liar. Its obvious at this point that he is, I'm satisfied in general. Fat, water weight and a small amount of lbm is to be expected but to loose 20% of your lbm? I must be an outlier because I dont loose much if anything after I cycle. Do I look as ripped? Nope. Do I have superman strength? Nope. But the losses are minimal at worst.

My guess is he never came close to 246lbs and ripped, never came close to the numbers he stated for power and never actually had real trt doctors evaluate him. He's still posted no evidence to combat my accusations, which he would have in a heartbeat given his attitude and bravado.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You can believe whatever the fuck you want icky. The fact remains that I have a fuckin fantastic test level regardless. And I have recovered even after all the doubts. I don’t need TRT and that’s fucking bliss. Believe what you want.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Never had trt doctors evaluate me hahahaha. I seen 2 andrologists. God your a fucking idiot.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I’m 15st right now 210lbs actually.
And my guess is your on trt and mad that you were wrong about me recovering

 

[ickyrica]

Never had trt doctors evaluate me hahahaha. I seen 2 andrologists. God your a fucking idiot.

I dont believe this for a minute, along with the PL numbers you posted, along with your physical stats you originally posted. You're a fraud, it's cool bud. Meso has a thousand of you pop up every year. Carry on with your Jim and balls obsessions. If you post credible evidence I'll agree with you, but you haven't and won't. Because you can't. You literally stated numbers that put you as the strongest guy in your country. Maybe pick believable numbers before you post next time? What's it like to go from the strongest and ripped as fuck to a pudgy chump? Lol, take care if those massive balls you have, I'm done with you.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You don’t believe anything I say cause 1. You believe all power lifters compete or 2. Your on trt and are probably pissed off that I managed to do what I have done.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Hope this thread helps people.

 

[Athleticgingerpta]

I really hope you’ve recovered as I’m in a similar boat. My last power pct ended with two weeks of 5mg nolva e3d. I got bloods about 9 weeks after my last serm and was 579 TT. I went again at 12 weeks and I was 341. I guess I still had elevated LH from the serms. You need another blood test in 6 more weeks to be sure.

 

[The Terminator]

I have a hard time believing that that much muscle loss occurs when someone simply stops using steroids. He stated that he continued to workout so that's another factor that leads me to believe the muscle loss isnt real.

I'm sitting at just under 260 currently. If I don't use again for 5 years I potentially could be 45lbs lighter and a significantly higher bf% percentage? I have a hard time believing that. Are there real cases that can bolster this claim? He is stating that he lost 20% of his lean mass, seems unrealistic and drastic.

no, you did not. The numbers you posted were within medical range. Just because you aren't happy with them doesnt mean you have an issue. It's a percieved issue. If you had hypogonadism you would have been put on trt

Idk I’d have to look it up, only one or two studies where high doses, like 600mg of T were used per week but i don’t think they looked at what happened once it was discontinued. Maybe if you took roids after some illness that caused significant wasting to get back to normal you could maintain but I don’t see how a bb type could possibly maintain without. If they could workout and diet to maintain extra muscle why even use the roids in the first place. There’s a reason why guys stay on or why they do multiple cycles.

You can be certain of whatever thee fuck you like. Us Irish are made of more ha ha bye fuckers, I don’t need to be here.
I hope this helps people who it needs to but IM OUT.

Ah yeaaahhh I’m sure the “great” Irish all walk around dL’ing nearly 800lbs with ease. Anyway I’m glad you recovered, hope you stay recovered

 

[ickyrica]

If they could workout and diet to maintain extra muscle why even use the roids in the first place

you're hitting on an overlooked part in my case with this part. I'm willing to bet genetics play a significant role in ones ability to retain lbm after discontinued anabolics use just as much as genetics play a role in being able to develop that lbm prior to anabolic use. He is just probably poverty in that department

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Fuck off. I’ve recovered ladies. Say no more.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I really hope you’ve recovered as I’m in a similar boat. My last power pct ended with two weeks of 5mg nolva e3d. I got bloods about 9 weeks after my last serm and was 579 TT. I went again at 12 weeks and I was 341. I guess I still had elevated LH from the serms. You need another blood test in 6 more weeks to be sure.

I certainly will do mate. Also your last power pct? I’ve done that three times and my levels plummeted again after.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Ah yeaaahhh I’m sure the “great” Irish all walk around dL’ing nearly 800lbs with ease. Anyway I’m glad you recovered, hope you stay recovered

Alright alright maybe I was acting a little cocky, not with ease but that was my max so obviously; it ain’t easy.