Perrin Aybara
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Me, too. I've got dozens and dozens of videos of myself over the last year and a half trying to get it down. Having this forum would've helped a lot, helps a lot now.
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Rob's log part 2 (gonna take a crack at PLing)
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Me, too. I've got dozens and dozens of videos of myself over the last year and a half trying to get it down. Having this forum would've helped a lot, helps a lot now.
That makes sense. That last second dip is probably what caused me to loose the bar speed off the ground. Appreciate the input brother as always
Perrin Aybara
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RT has a great analytical eye for this stuff. I'm the type to miss the forest for the trees sometimes. Makes this place awesome we've got so many here to help out.
I agree. The help here is second to none. It kills me how many dumbasses never leave the underground to see the wealth of knowledge this place has to offer.
RodgerThat
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I think I just have some good resources to go off of nothing too special. I've got lots of useful apps too that help with this so I can't take all the credit on that. Also rob you are correct in it taking away the speed from the bar movement as when you spring up like that your body is being shocked into recruiting muscles and that takes just a fractional moment longer then if you pull to tension so your body is already primed to fire those muscles instead of being surprised.
I also can't believe people just hang out in the underground the whole time. The real knowledge on this board is in training logs the nutrition section and the general discussion portion.
Rob, your elbows are bent is the first thing that stuck out to me. Make sure they're com solely straight and locked straight.
The best starting form for a pull is to have the bar over mid foot about an inch or so away from your shins. Bring your knees forward until shins touch the bar but don't move the bar. Bend at your waist until you can grip the bar without moving your hips. That's the starting hip position. From this form you can tweak your hips up and down to see what works best for you. The weight was too light to really make any big critiques.
On another note, I think you have the same beard as me. While ours aren't as fabulous as TEK's beard, they serve us well nonetheless
The best starting form for a pull is to have the bar over mid foot about an inch or so away from your shins. Bring your knees forward until shins touch the bar but don't move the bar. Bend at your waist until you can grip the bar without moving your hips. That's the starting hip position. From this form you can tweak your hips up and down to see what works best for you. The weight was too light to really make any big critiques.
On another note, I think you have the same beard as me. While ours aren't as fabulous as TEK's beard, they serve us well nonetheless
I agree the weight was too light. I will say after reviewing the 405 lifts I still had the bent elbows. I believe trukk made the comment on my last pull video of having slack in my upper body.
As far as bar location I may have the bar too close. It all the way against my shin with my legs straight up and down.
That starting point you described will be helpful as I'm clueless on where to start.
As for the beard it's pretty short at the moment. Recent trim. Although I do agree TEKs is perfection but like you said it serves well. Not everyone can be a man of the wilderness. Plus I don't think it's possible for me to even grow hair that length on my face lol or anywhere else for that matter.
One last question. How far apart do you keep your feet??
RodgerThat
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For your feet I want you to go up against a wall and jump as heigh as you possibly can against the wall and have someone watch where your hand hits. Keep doing this with a slightly different foot stance until you've narrowed down what's getting you the heighest, this is your body's most optimal position for explosive strength to repeat that footing with the deadlift and everything else we've said you you'll end up winning the 4 plate 5 plate 6 plate contest in no time flat
There should be no slack in your arms. Before you actually begin the pull you should be taking the slack out of your body and your arms. By that I mean if the bar is loaded with 405lbs you should be pulling up on it so you really only have to lift 404lbs. It's like you pull up enough to lift 1lb and that's enough to get the slack out.
Which would explain why I thought you went forward on your toes mid lift but couldn't see it bc the plates blocked the view. It looked choppy right in the transition between the bar passing knee area. If the bar is too close, you'll have to open your knee angle all the way and lockout knees too early to get the bar up.
You're not far from a 500lb pull at 205lbs with almost no PL training. That doesn't classify as "clueless"
I always keep mine short. Trim it every week. Right now though it's been feeding for over 2wks so I look like a cross between a caveman and manbearpig. I'd have a full on braidable beard in a few weeks of growth lol.
You could start with 10-14in apart or shoulder width or just a but narrower. I like using my vertical jump stance. Just imagine like you wanted to do the highest vertical you could. How close do you place your feet? That's how i do mine for pulls but even with our very similar leverages and structure you may prefer something different.
jaymaximus
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This actually works. This is awesome. Im going to try it today.
RodgerThat
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There should be no slack in your arms. Before you actually begin the pull you should be taking the slack out of your body and your arms. By that I mean if the bar is loaded with 405lbs you should be pulling up on it so you really only have to lift 404lbs. It's like you pull up enough to lift 1lb and that's enough to get the slack out.
Which would explain why I thought you went forward on your toes mid lift but couldn't see it bc the plates blocked the view. It looked choppy right in the transition between the bar passing knee area. If the bar is too close, you'll have to open your knee angle all the way and lockout knees too early to get the bar up.
You're not far from a 500lb pull at 205lbs with almost no PL training. That doesn't classify as "clueless"
I always keep mine short. Trim it every week. Right now though it's been feeding for over 2wks so I look like a cross between a caveman and manbearpig. I'd have a full on braidable beard in a few weeks of growth lol.
You could start with 10-14in apart or shoulder width or just a but narrower. I like using my vertical jump stance. Just imagine like you wanted to do the highest vertical you could. How close do you place your feet? That's how i do mine for pulls but even with our very similar leverages and structure you may prefer something different.
So I'm sure doc was typing this when I put my message up but it's a thing of pride for me to beat doc to the punch and I'd like it on record I beat him by about 3 minute on the vertical jump thing
lol all in good fun though doc!So I'm sure doc was typing this when I put my message up but it's a thing of pride for me to beat doc to the punch and I'd like it on record I beat him by about 3 minute on the vertical jump thing
Serves me right for trying to eat some damned chobani and chocolate while typing with one hand. If you beat me again I'm going to report your post to Millard
RodgerThat
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Serves me right for trying to eat some damned chobani and chocolate while typing with one hand. If you beat me again I'm going to report your post to Millard
Every time I beat you you say that you were typing with one hand or were helping an old lady cross the street while rescuing a puppy gotta stop belittling my accomplishments!
Little do you know that by "helping" old ladies I really mean "tripping".
But you have beat me fair and square. Time to deload, allow the fingers active recovery while preparing to face you in battle in the next thread. May the speediest fingers win!
There should be no slack in your arms. Before you actually begin the pull you should be taking the slack out of your body and your arms. By that I mean if the bar is loaded with 405lbs you should be pulling up on it so you really only have to lift 404lbs. It's like you pull up enough to lift 1lb and that's enough to get the slack out.
Which would explain why I thought you went forward on your toes mid lift but couldn't see it bc the plates blocked the view. It looked choppy right in the transition between the bar passing knee area. If the bar is too close, you'll have to open your knee angle all the way and lockout knees too early to get the bar up.
You're not far from a 500lb pull at 205lbs with almost no PL training. That doesn't classify as "clueless"
I always keep mine short. Trim it every week. Right now though it's been feeding for over 2wks so I look like a cross between a caveman and manbearpig. I'd have a full on braidable beard in a few weeks of growth lol.
You could start with 10-14in apart or shoulder width or just a but narrower. I like using my vertical jump stance. Just imagine like you wanted to do the highest vertical you could. How close do you place your feet? That's how i do mine for pulls but even with our very similar leverages and structure you may prefer something different.
Awesome explanations fellas. All of these will be extremely useful. Next Wednesday will be a day full of deadlifts. So it'll be a perfect time to get some work in.
What was the adjustment? I'm having appetite issues at the moment. My BW isn't moving.
@ROB581211 youll have to play around with foot placement. i find mine is/was slighty narrow. when i pick back up DLing im going to try a little bit of a wider stance so i can open up my hips a little more.
i also like to place the bar just behind the balls of my feet. so essentially at the start of my mid foot area. its not advantageous for me to have the bar resting on my shins in the starting postition. i lose bar speed and it seems to make the lift alot more difficult. id just pull with various stances at a particular weight and find what feels best to you.
i also like to place the bar just behind the balls of my feet. so essentially at the start of my mid foot area. its not advantageous for me to have the bar resting on my shins in the starting postition. i lose bar speed and it seems to make the lift alot more difficult. id just pull with various stances at a particular weight and find what feels best to you.
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Last workout day before block 30 starts on Monday.
Olympic bar seated shoulder press
95 x 20
135 x 16
185 x 12
225 x 10
Lat pull downs
100 x 20
120 x 16
140 x 15
160 x 13
Side raises. One giant set no rest between weights
55 x 6
50 x 8
45 x 10
40 x 12
35 x 15
40 x 12
45 x 10
50 x 5
This was pure torture but the pump is not joke.
Chest assisted rows
190 x 15
210 x 12
230 x 10
210 x 10
Preacher curl DB
30s x 15
35s x 13
40s x 10
45s x 10
Over head tri extension
70 x 20 for 3 sets
Olympic bar seated shoulder press
95 x 20
135 x 16
185 x 12
225 x 10
Lat pull downs
100 x 20
120 x 16
140 x 15
160 x 13
Side raises. One giant set no rest between weights
55 x 6
50 x 8
45 x 10
40 x 12
35 x 15
40 x 12
45 x 10
50 x 5
This was pure torture but the pump is not joke.
Chest assisted rows
190 x 15
210 x 12
230 x 10
210 x 10
Preacher curl DB
30s x 15
35s x 13
40s x 10
45s x 10
Over head tri extension
70 x 20 for 3 sets
Crush it brother.
Starting Monday the fun begins. By fun I mean pure self inflicted torture provided by doc and Brutus. When your log gonna be up and runnin?
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