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So.. guys i order Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate for testing them and here are some first contact conclusion.
It's seems that isn't 10mL the substance isn't like oils (but also on Balkan it's the same on all of they products) and the "bach number" its the same but are different products.
In therms of delivery ...very good just 4 days for UK...
Stay tuned i'm coming up for details. I'm still waiting for the other members with promise s reviews to come up.
Here are the pictures with i just tell you.

@HilmaBiocare, I can attest to what Antaris mentioned above which your vials being less than 10ml. This is true for at least for Parabolan (tren hexa) from my measurements where I drew a freshly opened vial into 10ml syringe to learn it was only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I did for 2 Parabolan vials and both came to only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I was very careful doing this measurement. I made sure to pull back the plunger so that oil in the needle and syringe neck was pulled into the syringe base and top of the oil was levelled at 0ml mark.
Based on Antaris, underfilling problem is there for Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate as well as for Parabolan based on my experience.

HilmaBiocare, what do you have to say to this fuckery ? Instead of slightly overfilling, you are selling underfilled vials.
 
Thanks for review bro ;) personally, I do not like stacks with tren and deca together, I can not tolerate more than 200 standalone deca, I do not want to imagine together with the tren. besides if it's your first cycle, the dosages are not low, they're normal. you did not take anything, like anti aromatase?
Which sides you experiment over 200mg of Deca weekly?
 
@HilmaBiocare, I can attest to what Antaris mentioned above which your vials being less than 10ml. This is true for at least for Parabolan (tren hexa) from my measurements where I drew a freshly opened vial into 10ml syringe to learn it was only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I did for 2 Parabolan vials and both came to only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I was very careful doing this measurement. I made sure to pull back the plunger so that oil in the needle and syringe neck was pulled into the syringe base and top of the oil was levelled at 0ml mark.
Based on Antaris, underfilling problem is there for Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate as well as for Parabolan based on my experience.

HilmaBiocare, what do you have to say to this fuckery ? Instead of slightly overfilling, you are selling underfilled vials.

Within 2 weeks I will start my cycle, and I will verify this thing, if it is true that the vials are under filled, I will say it to the producer. last year I opened many vials, but I did not notice... however, if it is true, it is a problem that can be solved easily, just calibrate the filler machine better, I think.
 
Within 2 weeks I will start my cycle, and I will verify this thing, if it is true that the vials are under filled, I will say it to the producer. last year I opened many vials, but I did not notice... however, if it is true, it is a problem that can be solved easily, just calibrate the filler machine better, I think.

Yes, Den84, verification of underfilled vials issue from other members would be good.

But 2 out 6 vials I measured came in between 9.4 and 9.5ml.

Hey @Antaris , can you also measure the vials you have, if you have any unopened ones left?
 
@HilmaBiocare, I can attest to what Antaris mentioned above which your vials being less than 10ml. This is true for at least for Parabolan (tren hexa) from my measurements where I drew a freshly opened vial into 10ml syringe to learn it was only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I did for 2 Parabolan vials and both came to only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I was very careful doing this measurement. I made sure to pull back the plunger so that oil in the needle and syringe neck was pulled into the syringe base and top of the oil was levelled at 0ml mark.
Based on Antaris, underfilling problem is there for Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate as well as for Parabolan based on my experience.

HilmaBiocare, what do you have to say to this fuckery ? Instead of slightly overfilling, you are selling underfilled vials.
like Den said,we will check everything and if there is really an error - this will be easy to correct. Thanks for your contribution.
 
@HilmaBiocare, I can attest to what Antaris mentioned above which your vials being less than 10ml. This is true for at least for Parabolan (tren hexa) from my measurements where I drew a freshly opened vial into 10ml syringe to learn it was only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I did for 2 Parabolan vials and both came to only 9.4 to 9.5 ml. I was very careful doing this measurement. I made sure to pull back the plunger so that oil in the needle and syringe neck was pulled into the syringe base and top of the oil was levelled at 0ml mark.
Based on Antaris, underfilling problem is there for Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Propionate as well as for Parabolan based on my experience.

HilmaBiocare, what do you have to say to this fuckery ? Instead of slightly overfilling, you are selling underfilled vials.

I feel the same with my Testosterone cypionate bottle. I have already done 6 injections of 1ml and I highly doubt to be 4ml more there.
 
I feel the same with my Testosterone cypionate bottle. I have already done 6 injections of 1ml and I highly doubt to be 4ml more there.
Thanks for sharing that you too have the underfilled vials from Hilma.

Hi @HilmaBiocare , of course, you have to correct this for future productions.
But What are you going to do for customers who have already purchased from you and have been shortchanged, without customers having prior knowledge on the issue? 10% off on the next order and with underfilling issue corrected. Some might think 0.5ml underfilling is not a big deal. But when you have more than a few vials of expensive compound like Parabolan, it is a considerable amount.
 
Thanks for sharing that you too have the underfilled vials from Hilma.

Hi @HilmaBiocare , of course, you have to correct this for future productions.
But What are you going to do for customers who have already purchased from you and have been shortchanged, without customers having prior knowledge on the issue? 10% off on the next order and with underfilling issue corrected. Some might think 0.5ml underfilling is not a big deal. But when you have more than a few vials of expensive compound like Parabolan, it is a considerable amount.
If you encounter the fact - please send the photo or video evidence to my email,this will significantly speed up the process of correction of the error, and we will decide what to do.
Basically all the filling machines configured to pour 10-11ml of substance,so when you look on different vials it might seem that amounts there is different,but if there is an error it will be easy to correct.
 
I have been by now 16 days with 500mg testosterone cypionate per week and I still don´t feel any strength increase or significant muscle mass gains. I have gained weight but I am eating a lot since I started.

I am not sure when the substance really kicks in thus I have been for a long time without using steroids.
 
I have been by now 16 days with 500mg testosterone cypionate per week and I still don´t feel any strength increase or significant muscle mass gains. I have gained weight but I am eating a lot since I started.

I am not sure when the substance really kicks in thus I have been for a long time without using steroids.

wow just made an order; and now see all these problems coming on. I'm worried that i might get bunk shit now; I hope you guys are serious and not fucking around when saying all this shit about underdosed and now fake gear.
 
wow just made an order; and now see all these problems coming on. I'm worried that i might get bunk shit now; I hope you guys are serious and not fucking around when saying all this shit about underdosed and now fake gear.

Don´t worry bro, everything looks like legit.

Anyway I will post here testosterone blood work in a few days
 
I have been by now 16 days with 500mg testosterone cypionate per week and I still don´t feel any strength increase or significant muscle mass gains. I have gained weight but I am eating a lot since I started.

I am not sure when the substance really kicks in thus I have been for a long time without using steroids.

Give it a month or so...I never start feeling it till week 5-6 or do some tests.
 
I have been by now 16 days with 500mg testosterone cypionate per week and I still don´t feel any strength increase or significant muscle mass gains. I have gained weight but I am eating a lot since I started.

I am not sure when the substance really kicks in thus I have been for a long time without using steroids.

Come back in 2 weeks and let us know how you feel. Cypionate is a long ester that needs time to build up.
 
I have been by now 16 days with 500mg testosterone cypionate per week and I still don´t feel any strength increase or significant muscle mass gains. I have gained weight but I am eating a lot since I started.

I am not sure when the substance really kicks in thus I have been for a long time without using steroids.
In general, by 16 days with test cyp, you should be at more than 80% of peak saturation levels. Brother, it is not dbol. I would give it a couple of more weeks to see measurable changes before making any conclusion.
I am on Hilma Parabolan (tren hex) for 21 days at 250mg/ml and starting to ramp up to 350mg/ml over the next 2 weeks. Since tren hexa takes a considerably long time to reach peak saturation levels, I will not speak to the quality one way or the other until it has been at least 5 weeks. Only changes I have felt upto now are spontaneous erections, slight insomnia starting at week 3 and elbow joint pain and nothing else. Injections are very smooth and PIP free.
 
Thank you for all your answers.

I remain calm with this. I feel actually a bit impatient and excited.

Will update here on how I feel in a couple of weeks.
 
In general, by 16 days with test cyp, you should be at more than 80% of peak saturation levels. Brother, it is not dbol. I would give it a couple of more weeks to see measurable changes before making any conclusion.
I am on Hilma Parabolan (tren hex) for 21 days at 250mg/ml and starting to ramp up to 350mg/ml over the next 2 weeks. Since tren hexa takes a considerably long time to reach peak saturation levels, I will not speak to the quality one way or the other until it has been at least 5 weeks. Only changes I have felt upto now are spontaneous erections, slight insomnia starting at week 3 and elbow joint pain and nothing else. Injections are very smooth and PIP free.

regardless of its cyp, e, sustanon, etc. test is test and yes it takes time for peak saturation levels; but when you inject test the moment you have the oil in your body you should at least feel it. Anyone I know whos on TRT can feel a difference after that first injection compared to running natty. Unless kosp has been cruising for months on end. I never heard of anyone not feeling anything from test; especially when running 500mg a week unless they have years of cycling experience or been cruising all year round. Yes it takes weeks for the effects to fully kick in; but the fact that he doesn't even feel a difference mentally, more energy, etc. makes me raise eyebrows. 16 days is enough to get a feeling; unless you have super high test levels to begin with, my bro felt a difference mentally from the first week of his shot at 500mg.
 
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