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[crusingdownthestreet]

Batch with exp date 06/2019 is tested and it’s overdosed 100%. I wrote what happened to my friend... 55 mcg/tab ! what batch are you talking about?

I'm aware that the test result says it may be over, but I'm on the fence whether I can trust jano after seeing the thread where all that weird stuff happened with that dudes sample he sent off to him.

Also, I've got Batch number: 047915, Exp: 09/2021. I'm pretty sure this stuff has to be underdosed - from what I've heard no one will tolerate 240mcg as well as I did. I did contact Hilma a couple weeks ago on wickr about my thoughts on this and it being underdosed and it seems like he just dismissed what I was saying as bs. But now we've got somebody else saying the same as me, I think it adds more credibility to the story.

I will happily buy another batch off Hilma to test the effects, so long as he was to waive the delivery charge in a show of good faith. No way will I pay more than the product is worth again just for the delivery for it to be like this.

 

[5millionbucks]

I'm aware that the test result says it may be over, but I'm on the fence whether I can trust jano after seeing the thread where all that weird stuff happened with that dudes sample he sent off to him.

Also, I've got Batch number: 047915, Exp: 09/2021. I'm pretty sure this stuff has to be underdosed - from what I've heard no one will tolerate 240mcg as well as I did. I did contact Hilma a couple weeks ago on wickr about my thoughts on this and it being underdosed and it seems like he just dismissed what I was saying as bs. But now we've got somebody else saying the same as me, I think it adds more credibility to the story.

I will happily buy another batch off Hilma to test the effects, so long as he was to waive the delivery charge in a show of good faith. No way will I pay more than the product is worth again just for the delivery for it to be like this.

mine is the same as yours batch and expiration. The pills I believe are mixed doses in each; for example I've been taking 80mcg and I do feel it with the shakes; but nothing too crazy. But there were times where I would take the dose and not feel anything. But yea if u just popped 240mcg say coming from a dose at 40-60mcg ur literally going to feel like ur heart will explode.

 

[Den84]

@crusingdownthestreet @5millionbucks I’m honest and I can speak only for a batch with exp date 06/2019 (pic attached of last item) and as I wrote was very strong. Now you say that new batch is underdosed but you don’t have a lab report that confirms what you said. it is very difficult for me to think that hilma has produced an economic product, like clen, underdosed. if you check all the pages of this thread, you can see, that hilma has been tested, many times, on different products, and by different testers (janoshik and lab4tox), no products resulted bad. then there are also bloodworks, all with results showing that testosterones are not underdosed.

Furthermore I know that the hilma staff is very careful about quality of final products, they test most of products, before selling...
therefore you can understand, that it is very difficult to believe, to what you are saying.

So In this case I can give to you only one advice: sent a sample to lab testing.

 

[crusingdownthestreet]

@crusingdownthestreet @5millionbucks I’m honest and I can speak only for a batch with exp date 06/2019 (pic attached of last item) and as I wrote was very strong. Now you say that new batch is underdosed but you don’t have a lab report that confirms what you said. it is very difficult for me to think that hilma has produced an economic product, like clen, underdosed. if you check all the pages of this thread, you can see, that hilma has been tested, many times, on different products, and by different testers (janoshik and lab4tox), no products resulted bad. then there are also bloodworks, all with results showing that testosterones are not underdosed.

Furthermore I know that the hilma staff is very careful about quality of final products, they test most of products, before selling...
therefore you can understand, that it is very difficult to believe, to what you are saying.

So In this case I can give to you only one advice: sent a sample to lab testing.

Im just giving you my honest account buddy. I have no reason whatsoever to lie about the product. For the small amount I purchased a test would not be worth it. Plus I finished them all off already.

Hilma can be as careful as they want, doesnt mean that mistakes cant be made. The batch that me and 5millionbucks had must of been a bad batch. I too see no reason for Hilma to purposely rip us off, after all they have a reputation to maintain.

 

[suncom3]

Seems like alot of clen is weak recently,wonder if there is something to it why it would be happening. I have some alpha clen and it is not as good as older versions Ive had either.

 

[Andrea36G]

I am currently using tren mix ,test P and winny
from HilmaBiocare
.
the tren mix fucked up all my injection sites
each time i use it the area become swollen, hard and hot and spread to other parts. like when in inject on shoulders it go all the way to my bic and tric. i did not get that with test P. Also with winny i got no side effect at all i can not tell if it realy work.
i am on day 20 now.
i saw a good review here so i got them, but so far i only noticed increase on my strenght. i had a much better cycles. anyway mybe the next few weeks it gets better.

 

[Andrea36G]

Batch no: 037962
01 2020

 

[cadafi]

I am currently using tren mix ,test P and winny
from HilmaBiocare
.
the tren mix fucked up all my injection sites
each time i use it the area become swollen, hard and hot and spread to other parts. like when in inject on shoulders it go all the way to my bic and tric. i did not get that with test P. Also with winny i got no side effect at all i can not tell if it realy work.
i am on day 20 now.
i saw a good review here so i got them, but so far i only noticed increase on my strenght. i had a much better cycles. anyway mybe the next few weeks it gets better.

I finally decided to transfer the oils to another vials, rubber stoppers are thin and everytime i draw the oils a piece of the stopper gets in the way, only have test e and sust tho.

 

[Juris93]

i have done 1 week of test e and tbol ( exp 01/2020)
strenght increased , no sides , i feel good at gym , pump seems better and gained 1kg ( with + 1000kcal daily compared to prtevious week )

I do not feel anything of what I felt with my previous and first cycle of test only ( nipples always contracted out and permanent night erections)
i am also using more arimidex of same brand , I will do blood tests in 15 days

ps: got no pip from last sunday injection till wednesday... i got my second injection and trained legs , next day , and still now , got lot of pip on both my quads
tomorrow will go on gluteus

 

[Waduhek]

i have done 1 week of test e and tbol ( exp 01/2020)
strenght increased , no sides , i feel good at gym , pump seems better and gained 1kg ( with + 1000kcal daily compared to prtevious week )

I do not feel anything of what I felt with my previous and first cycle of test only ( nipples always contracted out and permanent night erections)
i am also using more arimidex of same brand , I will do blood tests in 15 days

ps: got no pip from last sunday injection till wednesday... i got my second injection and trained legs , next day , and still now , got lot of pip on both my quads
tomorrow will go on gluteus

Ahhhhh the quads. I will never ever touch them again lol and you should do the same tbh

 

[gearwolf]

I've been putting gear and lately Hilma's primo into my quads daily for months on end, never any PIP, everyone differs

 

[Waduhek]

I've been putting gear and lately Hilma's primo into my quads daily for months on end, never any PIP, everyone differs

You're totally right man, that was my own experience. The last time I shot in my quad I almost ended up in the hospital

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Do we have kab test about their dbol ?

 

[5millionbucks]

I'm getting my test kit this week; going to be testing the drol will let you guys how it pans out.

 

[Waduhek]

Tomorrow im gonna take bloods and post them here

 

[AlwaysHungry]

I have little results with their dbol compare to previous brands that I've tried

 

[TRT@40]

You're totally right man, that was my own experience. The last time I shot in my quad I almost ended up in the hospital

Is that generally the case for you when you pin quads? Are you certain your pinning technique was good for thin pin?
From gear earlier this year, I have pinned his tren hexa hexa, tren enan, and deca in quads, delts, ventrogluteal and never had any PIP

 

[Den84]

Tomorrow im gonna take bloods and post them here

Which kit ? If you invested your money for buy labmax or roidtest , why don't you send the sample to a lab for testing, as blind sample? Home kits aren’t reliable...

 

[5millionbucks]

Which kit ? If you invested your money for buy labmax or roidtest , why don't you send the sample to a lab for testing, as blind sample? Home kits aren’t reliable...

they are reliable to the sense where it can at least tell if there is the active ingredient in it; obviously it won't tell the concentration.

 

[Waduhek]

Is that generally the case for you when you pin quads? Are you certain your pinning technique was good for thin pin?
From gear earlier this year, I have pinned his tren hexa hexa, tren enan, and deca in quads, delts, ventrogluteal and never had any PIP

Yes, my pinning technique is fine, and every single time I shot in the quads I got awful and painful pips. Never gonna touch them again