Rumors Stanford, etc.

You guys see this gun I built back awhile ago? Threw a vortex scope on it

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Very nice. Which Vortex scope btw?

Been looking at a variable with 1x and daylight dot for a while. Was close to doing one of Nighforce's newer 1x offerings as I'm partial to their shit and pretty much bomb proof. That said, I don't want to part with that cash and a few people who I respect are running Vortex variables. I'm not willing to compromise on 1x functionality at all.

Any thoughts for yours?

EDIT Now that I'm looking this is the wrong thread. Though rifles are far more worthwhile. Just PM me if you have applicable thoughts.
 
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This comment seems contradictory to bb69 mentioning in a recent post that when he was released from corrections this go round it was you who helped get him back on his feet.


This also draws to mind an identical situation I recall reading involving you and another member. The member involved is evading me but I will be reading back over my free time today and I’ll be posting that information here. (Exact same details. Down to claiming he didn’t know the person. Just helped cause he was a generous person.)

Also I think it would stand to reason that all of the claims made by kai in the initial post COULD be true. I understand wanting concrete proof but if Stanford is basically confirming the existence of the emails (I understand he’s only addressed the email about not being our friend). But if that email exists what about the part where he mentions Ryno managing his business somehow? What about the rest of that shit?
It's not contradictory. I said I've never had any contact with bb69 in any form what so ever. But, through another member, i helped bb69 with a small donation. A member told me that bb69 was going through a rough time. I don't remember the exact wording, but i said i would like to help bb69 if i could, but please don't tell him it was from me. It had nothing to do with bb69 as i don't know him even as a member of meso. It had to do with i believe as a source that profits from the board you should give back when you can. I guess he found out i helped a little. And i wouldn't call the small donation as getting him back on his feet.


I've done this with many members on the board. Some will never know i helped, some will never know i offered. It's just the way i run my business. Never thought it would bite me in the butt, but quite frankly, i don't care. I'll continue to help folks when they are down. Some do know i helped them and won't post that i did and i don't expect them to.

So, i still don't know bb69 and the only time I've seen him even discuss it was his post about it on the thread kai was in. He never emailed before or after. P.s. i stated about the donation to bb69 already a while back. This is nothing new.
 
So that’s it? o_O
Ugh, this movie sucks!! :p
The build up to climax was there but the ending just flat out sucked! :D

This shit reminds me of a kid pulling a fire alarm in school as a prank. Then the principal coming outside to tell everyone it was a false alarm.
Thankfully now everyone can go back to class! :D

There’s still a few things I don’t fully understand and at this point I don’t even care enough to ask.

IF... there’s a lesson to be learned from all this I would think it would be the behind the scenes chatter serves zero purpose and only negative shit comes from it!
I for one would rather see shit out in the open and read through bullshit posts on a thread than have it play out behind the scenes (to come out anyway) and start a shit storm like this did....o_O

:)
 
So that’s it? o_O
Ugh, this movie sucks!! :p
The build up to climax was there but the ending just flat out sucked! :D

This shit reminds me of a kid pulling a fire alarm in school as a prank. Then the principal coming outside to tell everyone it was a false alarm.
Thankfully now everyone can go back to class! :D

There’s still a few things I don’t fully understand and at this point I don’t even care enough to ask.

IF... there’s a lesson to be learned from all this I would think it would be the behind the scenes chatter serves zero purpose and only negative shit comes from it!
I for one would rather see shit out in the open and read through bullshit posts on a thread than have it play out behind the scenes (to come out anyway) and start a shit storm like this did....o_O

:)
Bet this is food for thought when you head to the gym...thinking of this will get you some extra anger reps on bench lmao!
 
Yup. But let’s be clear. Ben hasn’t dropped shit. I’m still a paid shill here for money. He can drop that theory any time he likes. But he won’t because his ego tells him he’s right.
I will say that i don't believe mac11 is a paid plant in the tgi thread.
It stands to reason that if you were asked by a client about who has quality gear or what you use that you wouldn't say that you can"t discuss it...you would answer tgi and not because you would benefit from it directly.
I have said that I believe there ARE guys who were shills for tgi by design and who were directed to be there by tgi.
I don't believe Mac is or was one of those people or here at meso expressly for that purpose.
Mac join date is the month after tgi join date...9/2018 and 10/2018, respectively, is a coincidence as you were not brought to meso by tgi and i will say its my belief you are not a paid shill.
I don't think its unreasonable for me or anyone to conclude that over time both of you(tgi and mac) benefited from your association but you didn't rely on one another. You both offer a quality product and when asked by clients who to go to for the service you both provide you both would refer or answer with the other.
Nothing malicious about it. No conspiracy to in fact do this was present.
Also...if you say you were never asked about who you use for gear or who you recommend i would say that i think it unlikely but in my belief that you, mac11, were not part of a conspiracy and NOT a paid shill I will not argue and say it not to be true.
If you turned anyone to tgi it would be because you honestly believe the product to be of high quality and the best meso has to offer.
I'm not going to list those i believe to be paid shills as tgi is no longer here and the reasons for my belief are circumstantial and without tgi at meso it doesn't much matter at this point.
 
It's not contradictory. I said I've never had any contact with bb69 in any form what so ever. But, through another member, i helped bb69 with a small donation. A member told me that bb69 was going through a rough time. I don't remember the exact wording, but i said i would like to help bb69 if i could, but please don't tell him it was from me. It had nothing to do with bb69 as i don't know him even as a member of meso. It had to do with i believe as a source that profits from the board you should give back when you can. I guess he found out i helped a little. And i wouldn't call the small donation as getting him back on his feet.


I've done this with many members on the board. Some will never know i helped, some will never know i offered. It's just the way i run my business. Never thought it would bite me in the butt, but quite frankly, i don't care. I'll continue to help folks when they are down. Some do know i helped them and won't post that i did and i don't expect them to.

So, i still don't know bb69 and the only time I've seen him even discuss it was his post about it on the thread kai was in. He never emailed before or after. P.s. i stated about the donation to bb69 already a while back. This is nothing new.
I've never had any contact with Stanford through pm, email, wickr or any other way.
In fact, near the beginning of his thread i was suspicious of a special he was running and made some not so friendly posts. Once i was satisfied that there weren't any issues that could hurt members i bounced.

I've never asked Stanford, or any other source for that matter, for help "getting on my feet" or any other kind of help. I have friends and family for that.
I asked a friend to please send me some gear ahead of my return so as soon as i landed I could get hormone in my blood. No pct after a few years of blasting and cruising sucks. It was at the top of my list of things to get done.
I have some awesome friends in the Community. You may recall a few yrs back on the other violation that had me away for a few months some guys got together(bickel29 and ironwill1951 among them) and sent my wife $500 to help while i was away.
This time guys(bickel29 and ceymorebuttz among those this final time)sent a care pkg and a total of $2k to give me a running head start.
I have posted in the past about the services I've provided to the Community. My friends are just that and they appreciate that when I go to jail, none of them do. Though i didnt ask stanford for anything as we aren't friends, i can still thank him for the gesture.*****

This bust of the queen i heard about yesterday is going to be felt. The lists of powder suppliers will get smaller and prices should start to climb a bit with the biggest concern being quality.
The queen supplied a large % of powder supliers in the Community. To me it says that there could be some quality/purity issues seen in UGL's that previously had none. Testing of raw powders is going to be even more important now.
 
I will say that i don't believe mac11 is a paid plant in the tgi thread.
It stands to reason that if you were asked by a client about who has quality gear or what you use that you wouldn't say that you can"t discuss it...you would answer tgi and not because you would benefit from it directly.
I have said that I believe there ARE guys who were shills for tgi by design and who were directed to be there by tgi.
I don't believe Mac is or was one of those people or here at meso expressly for that purpose.
Mac join date is the month after tgi join date...9/2018 and 10/2018, respectively, is a coincidence as you were not brought to meso by tgi and i will say its my belief you are not a paid shill.
I don't think its unreasonable for me or anyone to conclude that over time both of you(tgi and mac) benefited from your association but you didn't rely on one another. You both offer a quality product and when asked by clients who to go to for the service you both provide you both would refer or answer with the other.
Nothing malicious about it. No conspiracy to in fact do this was present.
Also...if you say you were never asked about who you use for gear or who you recommend i would say that i think it unlikely but in my belief that you, mac11, were not part of a conspiracy and NOT a paid shill I will not argue and say it not to be true.
If you turned anyone to tgi it would be because you honestly believe the product to be of high quality and the best meso has to offer.
I'm not going to list those i believe to be paid shills as tgi is no longer here and the reasons for my belief are circumstantial and without tgi at meso it doesn't much matter at this point.
There you go Ben! This is a post that I can get behind. You can see that you put common sense on the table and showed no bias in this post. Because honestly Ben that is the truth.
There is a lot of ppl that can’t understand this wasn’t no great conspiracy that happened. It was a bunch of circumstantial shit that just provided imaginations to run wild.

I know it doesn’t matter but I appreciate you standing up and being a man about it. It also shows that you can be unbiased and that the truth is what is important to you.
I’ve had to admit when I was wrong a few times in my life and my opinion is that is the one thing that makes someone a man. Accepting and admitting we were wrong.
So you gained a little bit of respect from me today.
 
This bust of the queen i heard about yesterday is going to be felt. The lists of powder suppliers will get smaller and prices should start to climb a bit with the biggest concern being quality.
The queen supplied a large % of powder supliers in the Community. To me it says that there could be some quality/purity issues seen in UGL's that previously had none. Testing of raw powders is going to be even more important now.
bust of the queen??? Is there an article on this, or just chatter right now?
 
There will be if there isn't already.
The next price/product list that panda will put out is gonna be abbreviated to reflect the lack of availability of some things...Ment, is one that is gonna be scarce.
I guess we call them exotics? She synthesized them. Many don't.
I had heard somewhere… Can’t recall where. That they are cracking down in China because of the upcoming Olympics.
 
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