ironwill1951
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you guys need to realize russia and communists are our enemy.
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Russia begins invasion of Ukraine
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Hightower
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Big enemies sit in our government. With such control, they will destroy us faster. Without external enemies.
Hightower
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And why do we think in stereotypes. Like, here are the communists and Russia, universal evil. And the fact that we, in fact, are also waging wars, as a rule, by proxy. The fact that we arrange revolutions, we teach other countries and the government how to live and how to live. But in fact, no one gave us this right. We ourselves see an inherently aggressive foreign policy. And there were a lot of facts about this.
While Russia is not a democracy, it's not Communist either.
Communist rule in Russia ended with the Soviet Union.
Russia doesn't have to be our enemy. And there are communist ideologues right here in America. Just look at the ranks of the democrat party
Hightower
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That's right, their social system has changed a lot since 1991. Therefore, calling them communists is not correct.
What If the War in Ukraine Doesn’t End?
The Global Consequences of a Long Conflict
What If the War in Ukraine Doesn’t End?
In the Russian war in Ukraine, there may not be a discrete moment marking the war’s end—at least, not for some time. After eight weeks of war—far longer, seemingly, than either side anticipated—it is a real possibility that neither country will achieve what it wishes to achieve. Ukraine may not be able to expel Russian forces fully from the territory they have taken since Moscow launched its invasion in February. Russia is likely unable to achieve its main political objective: control over Ukraine. Instead of reaching a definite resolution, the war may well usher in a new era of conflict characterized by a cycle of Russian wars in Ukraine. If the war does not end any time soon, the crucial question is: Whose side is time on?..
The Global Consequences of a Long Conflict
What If the War in Ukraine Doesn’t End?
In the Russian war in Ukraine, there may not be a discrete moment marking the war’s end—at least, not for some time. After eight weeks of war—far longer, seemingly, than either side anticipated—it is a real possibility that neither country will achieve what it wishes to achieve. Ukraine may not be able to expel Russian forces fully from the territory they have taken since Moscow launched its invasion in February. Russia is likely unable to achieve its main political objective: control over Ukraine. Instead of reaching a definite resolution, the war may well usher in a new era of conflict characterized by a cycle of Russian wars in Ukraine. If the war does not end any time soon, the crucial question is: Whose side is time on?..
Hightower
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War is first and foremost a business. And it will be beneficial for many, the supply of weapons and the development of the budget. You can openly steal money under the guise of helping Ukraine. It's so simple.
Hightower
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I doubt that Ukraine will hold out for a long time if NATO does not actively help with troops. And this will not happen because no one wants to unleash a world war. Now it is very acute in the Taiwan area.
You're making a big assumption, contrary to the actions and facts so far that Russia wants complete control over Ukraine.
That's the msm/dnc talking point, but the evidence doesn't support it.
Russian so far has made very few excursions west of the Dnieper River and seems most heavily focused on the south in Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk in the east.
A logical interpretation of this could show that Russian objectives as they stated themselves are nearly complete.
They never said anything about gaining "control over Ukrain" as much guaranteeing Ukrainian neutrality, destroying the Ukrainian military and either gaining independence for the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of the Donbass region or incorporating them into the Russian federation then permanently taking Crimea, which was pretty much already their's anyway.
In a nutshell, they have destroyed the Ukrainian military, especially the Azov Battalion they said they would. They've taken mariopol, Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea. And they're digging in hard I. Those areas.
It looks clearly if you discard western propaganda that "putin is like satanic Hitler and wants world domination" its pretty easy to see that they've done pretty much what they said they would. And are probably close to done.
The only real question is whether or not joe biden can convince enough of the European countries to fuel a long term violent insurgency in thier backyard.
I'm certain that's what the lying senile bastard wants to do. But can he get the European countries on board with it?
Otherwise this is almost over.
The Ukraine war is being dragged out thanks to us feeding the death machine.
We should have never sent them weapons and that goes for the rest of the world. They would have had to surrender much quicker and then they can work their problems out without destroying their country.
Remember what the French did during WWII, they weren't gonna let Germany come in and tear shit up so they let them in and when the war was over they still had their beautiful country intact.
You gotta think before you engage in death and mayhem, it's wiser to sometimes sit back and wait until the violence and destruction passes.
These idiot Americans that see Ukrainians as freedom fighters, brave people willing to die, are the major source of the problem. We have too much bravado and this silly idea of freedom which doesn't exist and certainly didn't exist in Ukraine needs to be dispelled. A person dying for their country is fucking dumb, just like the past idiots that died for the United States because at the end of the day it's only the poor that fight and die and sooner or later immigrants will flood your country and radically turn the country into a huge pile of unlivable shit as your country turns rabid leftist and almost all decadent bleeding heart western countries are going this route.
We should have never sent them weapons and that goes for the rest of the world. They would have had to surrender much quicker and then they can work their problems out without destroying their country.
Remember what the French did during WWII, they weren't gonna let Germany come in and tear shit up so they let them in and when the war was over they still had their beautiful country intact.
You gotta think before you engage in death and mayhem, it's wiser to sometimes sit back and wait until the violence and destruction passes.
These idiot Americans that see Ukrainians as freedom fighters, brave people willing to die, are the major source of the problem. We have too much bravado and this silly idea of freedom which doesn't exist and certainly didn't exist in Ukraine needs to be dispelled. A person dying for their country is fucking dumb, just like the past idiots that died for the United States because at the end of the day it's only the poor that fight and die and sooner or later immigrants will flood your country and radically turn the country into a huge pile of unlivable shit as your country turns rabid leftist and almost all decadent bleeding heart western countries are going this route.
Hightower
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It seems to me that the propaganda machine has already been launched and it doesn’t matter what happens in Ukraine and what actions Russia will take.
The goal is different, the goal is to create and they created the enemy and now all the problems will be on him and they will put pressure and pressure.
Hightower
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In general, we and Europe strangely want peace by supplying weapons to Ukraine. But Ukraine itself is not capable of controlling the flow of weapons, and these weapons will again and again fall into the illegal arms market. Therefore, we will arm terrorist organizations with our own hands.
Everyone recognizes this, but continues to foment conflict.
Everyone recognizes this, but continues to foment conflict.
That's true, that's why you do absolutely nothing.
I've seen so many cunts on TV that have never fought a day in their life, women covered with makeup telling us that we need to ship weapons over there so men can kill each other.
The vets that I've known that actually fought in a real war, most of the Vietnam, never want to talk about their experiences. They get squeamish when others are talking about supporting war, because only idiots or psychopaths want war.
There's nothing to fight over, we are all stuck on this planet. If there are assholes in this world, tyrants, then it will take time for them to disappear and that's all there is to it.
I think back to Tibet when they first were being invaded by the Chinese, they had old rifles and little ammunition and they fought, but there was no way they could win and ultimately their fate was decided, some stayed and those that wanted to live their lives moved to Nepal. It's better than being dead.
It does seem like they've designated their Boogeyman.
The one they will blame all of the fear, paranoia and misery on. The one who has to go for everything to be perfect again.
Now the bastards just have to make people suffer enough to mob up against them.
Scapegoat.
Hightower
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Naturally, all theorists know what to do and how, how to fight and what tactics to adopt. It has always been and is.
Hightower
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Everyone correctly found the kazla absolution. Just the right comparison.
Indeed they've found their odepius rex.
The one who has sinned terribly and thusly must suffer for the world to be cleansed.
At least that's how the west is selling it
Megadick3000
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I dont believe your qualified to engage in geopolitical discussions sir. Please leave these complex world changing debates to the meso RX professional arm chair geopolitical strategists.
You are embarassing yourself doc.
Hightower
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I'm afraid such a policy leads to an escalation of the conflict and the whole world will suffer, the whole world is already reaping the consequences.
Hightower
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Everyone here shares their opinion. In my opinion, everyone has a right to it. I think few of us can say, I know the truth and how it really is. But we just see the version, am I wrong?
