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He's not leading the Ukrainians off to war, they're doing that on their own because they want to. They've been attacked and a peace agreement would mean riots in Kiev. Just because you're allowed to oppose the government, doesn't mean you have to on everything they do, even good policy that the large majority of people agree with. The moment you become a Putin lover and Russian invasion supporter because you hate Biden is the moment you've lost your mind
This stuff about a coup and Joe Biden being bribed, there's no proof of that. You take a grain of evidence and twist it into propaganda trying to hurt our country and hurt Ukraine, because Joe Biden succeeding just can't happen. Even if there was proof, it doesn't justify a Russian invasion. It justifies voting for the other guy
No I'm not saying you should be shot or put in a gulag, I'm saying in Russia you would be. That's why protests have been limited there right now.
The only way Russia wasn't going to invade is if they were given Ukraine or chunks of Ukraine, and that wasn't going to happen. You can't be Russia's expansion enabler.
Julia Loffe, a journalist and Russia expert talks about this too:
View: https://youtu.be/qEu0oRajJxE?t=3121
She says in the fall of 2021, Putin started massing his forces again and Biden's people hoped another summit would back them off. She says a Biden official said they'd do a summit a month if that's what it took. Meanwhile Biden was trying to stroke Putin's ego because they thought Putin wanted to be important and top of their agenda. When it became clear Russia was invading, the Biden administration was actually angry and disappointed, because they didn't want this to be their foreign policy they wanted to get out of the middle east and pivot to China/Asia, they had more grand plans. But there was no stopping Putin because he wants Ukraine, and Belarus, to combine into a pan-slavic country. That is unacceptable to America and Europe.
If you read Putin's essay on Ukraine (and Belarus is included) it's clear he thinks they should be combined or "unified":
On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
You're giving Biden too much credit. The only reason this has been a foreign policy win for him is because Russia's military couldn't beat the Ukrainians, and everyone in the Biden administration (and elsewhere) thought Russia would steamroll the Ukrainians. And now you're trying to spin it like it's really been a loss and he was the instigator. And you don't mind being part of the Putin information warfare apparatus, promoting Russian propaganda, because you and Putin share the same goals even if it ultimately hurts our country and helps no one: weakening Biden, destroying liberalism. I'm not saying you should be censored I'm saying you should be ashamed of yourself.
There is no local population. They once had 70,000 people but war has destroyed the city. Russia doesn't have the money to rebuild it.
There is no local population. They once had 70,000 people but war has destroyed the city. Russia doesn't have the money to rebuild it.
It's been an interesting battle. Russia emptied their prisons and fought this battle mostly with convicts. If they survive 6 months they get a pardon and a bonus, but something like 80% don't survive. Those who retreat are lined up and shot in front of the new recruits as they arrive.
There is no local population. They once had 70,000 people but war has destroyed the city. Russia doesn't have the money to rebuild it.
It's been an interesting battle. Russia emptied their prisons and fought this battle mostly with convicts. If they survive 6 months they get a pardon and a bonus, but something like 80% don't survive. Those who retreat are lined up and shot in front of the new recruits as they arrive.
www.forumdaily.com
Those who refuse to advance are shot in the back: PMC 'Wagner' fighters spoke honestly about the war in Ukraine
PMC Wagner, prisoners, prisoners, recruitment, upset, Prigozhin, command, prisoner, read US news on ForumDailyWhite House: Wagner Group has suffered over 30,000 casualties in Ukraine
The Russian mercenary company Wagner Group has suffered more than 30,000 casualties since Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, with about 9,000 of those fighters killed in action, the White House said on Friday.www.reuters.com
I honestly don't think they want these convicts to survive, be released and get their bonus. They didn't have the training to manage anything but a frontal assault.
Oh their tactics are written about all over the place. They don't deny it or even pretend to care about their convicts lives:
www.kyivpost.com
Oh their tactics are written about all over the place. They don't deny it or even pretend to care about their convicts lives:
"When asked what the unit’s task was, Nuzhin told Butusov, “I don’t even know how to explain it. As far as I understood, [we were there to serve as] cannon fodder. If you didn’t follow instructions or if you did something wrong, they would neutralize you. Shoot you. They called it ‘neutralization.’”
“Not far from [our training area], there was another boot camp. We came from Penal Colony No. 3, and the other group came from Penal Colony No. 5, also from Ryazan, about 60 people. Before them, one person was neutralized: he talked back to the instructor, just verbal diarrhea, and he was neutralized. And then one person from Penal Colony No. 5 was neutralized — they told us about it when we met on the field. For nothing at all, it’s safe to say, for running his mouth, they shot him and buried him there somewhere,” said Nuzhin."
‘If you didn’t follow instructions, they shot you’ A Russian convict recruited by the Wagner Group tells his story — Meduza
In recent months, representatives from the Wagner Group, a notorious private military company that’s said to be funded by Kremlin-linked oligarch Evgeny Prigozhin, have visited at least 20 prisons throughout Russia in a campaign to recruit inmates to fight in Ukraine. On September 15, Ukrainian...meduza.io
"Felon Evgeniy Novikov told Poligon that "Those who disobey are liquidated - this is done publicly. There are executioner detachments there, they are made up of (other) felons." In some cases, Novikov claimed, the Wagner leadership executes not only the man who ran away, but his commander as well.
Vladimir Osechkin, a Russian human rights activist, in Wednesday comments published on his Gulagu.net website said Wagner soldiers attempting to flee the battlefield or surrender are shot as a matter of course, at times with artillery, and that only 15 to 20 percent of felons sent to fight survive the first six hours of combat."
New Accounts Emerge of Wagner Soldiers Shot for Retreating
Interviews with captured Wagner fighters reveal brutal conditions.
Wagner Group Release ANOTHER Sledgehammer Execution Video
Wagner Group Release ANOTHER Sledgehammer Execution Video
“When I came to, I was in this room—where they told me I was going to be put on trial,” the condemned man says.www.thedailybeast.com
www.veteranstoday.com
Ha! I would never actually expect you to believe that Russian convicts do abnormally brutal things. And as bad as Russian prisons are, it seems that joining this Wagner Group is worse. So I don't know how long they can keep that going. They've started recruiting from Ukrainian prisons in occupied territory too. I can't imagine they will treat Ukrainian convicts any better.This war propoganda.
Ukranians are doing atrocious things as well
Ukrainian Soldiers Confirm They Were Ordered To Kill Civilians | VT Foreign Policy
