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Titan72

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Hello all,

I am a man with an age of 50 years old.
I have trained 30 years natural. The last few years in summer i did a very light cycle.

Now, i want to start again with a cycle in approx 2 months.

I want to gain some solid mass. a few quility KG's should be nice.
Only, my health is very important for me, so i don't want to cycle/ risk with heavy amounts.
Some people advise me Test E with some Deca and a little masteron. Others advise me Test with Primobolan or anavar, Others only Test.

Some say Deca is not favourable at age 50, others say Masteron is not good for your lipids and prostate,

I really have no clue at all.

Can you guys advise me which in my situation is the best compunds with dosages?

Trenbolone and Equipose, HGH is for me a no go.

I am a quick responder on steroids. with only Test 300 mg per week i have gained 5 kg. (after quitting i lost 3-4 kg)

My stats; 1.83M. 102 KG (14% bodyfat)

I am not on TRT (maybe in 10 years)

Please can you advise what;s in my case the best option.

Thanks in advance for the advises !!
 
Almost 50 here, current protocol and best cycle I’ve ever run. Your mileage may vary.

500 mg Test E wk - E3.5D
550 mg Deca wk - E3.5D
50 mg Tbol - ED wk 1-4
0.25 mg Caber - E3.5D
0.5 mg Anastrozole - 3x / wk
10 mg Tadalafil - ED
10 mg Cardarine - ED
50 mg Anadrol - 3x / wk (heavy days) wk 16-20

Support Stuff
1800 mg NAC - ED
500 mg Tudca - ED
5 g Taurine - ED
4K Fish Oil - ED
 
I would absolutely suggest the trt route since you lost your gains from your last cycle so quickly. It would beg the question of whether it’s even worth going enhanced for 12 weeks to gain and risk health factors only to lose it again. Doesn’t sound like a worthwhile endeavour.

Doing any steroid above natural levels will cause harm on a dose dependent basis so keeping doses conservative is worth it at any age but I do believe the risks grow as we age without as much wiggle room for error.

If you’ve been active your natural test levels are probably good compared to a sedentary population but is still low due to your age.

I would ask whether you’ve gotten your natural levels checked prior to your first cycle to see where you’re starting from?

So my suggestion would be to go enhanced by getting on trt at 150-200mg/week and continue to make gains while protecting your heart. If the day comes you think muscles are worth the issues with lipids then I would start with a light test only cycle to test how it affects your health markers. Maybe in the range of 400-500mg/week for 12 weeks and then continue trt.

After that cycle then adding things like primo or masteron could enhance your next test cycle at still conservative doses.

I’ve been on trt for 11 years and getting my body to almost supraphysiological levels without going over had left to steady gains and zero issues with heart or prostate
 
What’s your TT and free T off cycle?

I’m in the same position as you, finding healthiest options etc. so many theories etc, but I would def stay away from deca if not on trt, that would suppress you for months after cycle.

I’m at a crossroad too , health and longevity being a priority. For me I also have to stay legal so no primo for me. My plan is to use 150 mg test a week and try to get my TT around 1000 and do that year round, I use hcg but can’t get it now, and do one 12 week blast a year in the spring. Maybe 5-600 test and 300 deca, then cruise on trt 40 weeks and repeat. No orals anymore for me as well. I want to try to live into my 80s as I wanna see my kids grow up and get my social security money back (although a small fraction) from the gov.
 
Theworm said:
Due to compounding rules they classify hcg as a “biologic” and the fda shut down the compounding pharmacies from making it. There is a name brand but it’s been on back order for a while...
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Thats weird. I still got mine a month ago from revive RX pharmacy.
 
Theworm said:
Due to compounding rules they classify hcg as a “biologic” and the fda shut down the compounding pharmacies from making it. There is a name brand but it’s been on back order for a while...
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Sorry to hear that. I want to get back on pharma HCG as I’ve been using ugl.

Best of luck sourcing it again. I’d consider it an essential medication for what we do
 
Get on a dose of higher end TRT train until the gains stop. Then do 300-500mg test. What’s the thought process on waiting until you are 60 to get in trt? I would have to imagine at 50 pct isn’t fun at all, and at that age after suppressing your natural test who’s to say it will even bounce back to what your “normal” was?
 
Titan72 said:
Hello all,

I am a man with an age of 50 years old.
I have trained 30 years natural. The last few years in summer i did a very light cycle.

Now, i want to start again with a cycle in approx 2 months.

I want to gain some solid mass. a few quility KG's should be nice.
Only, my health is very important for me, so i don't want to cycle/ risk with heavy amounts.
Some people advise me Test E with some Deca and a little masteron. Others advise me Test with Primobolan or anavar, Others only Test.

Some say Deca is not favourable at age 50, others say Masteron is not good for your lipids and prostate,

I really have no clue at all.

Can you guys advise me which in my situation is the best compunds with dosages?

Trenbolone and Equipose, HGH is for me a no go.

I am a quick responder on steroids. with only Test 300 mg per week i have gained 5 kg. (after quitting i lost 3-4 kg)

My stats; 1.83M. 102 KG (14% bodyfat)

I am not on TRT (maybe in 10 years)

Please can you advise what;s in my case the best option.

Thanks in advance for the advises !!
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If you decide to hold off on the TRT, I would suggest 400 to 500mg of test only. 300mg did fine for you last time so keep it simple and work your way up.

TRT is a lifelong commitment. You will have to inject every week for the rest of your life. You may be able to find transdermals or even go through a real doc. Most guys that I know just self prescribe.

If you like to be precise on your dosage, you can get blood work done. If your in the US you can order and pay for the test oinline then walk in and test.

I'm 50ish myself and have no intension on coming off. You can also have bloods done first to see where your levels are at before you make the decision.
 
WannabeBIG said:
I would absolutely suggest the trt route since you lost your gains from your last cycle so quickly.
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The thing is when going on a test cycle without an AI, even a small one at 300mg, you're going to retain some water and put on at least 5lbs (2.5kg) of bloat that will go away after cycle. But at 50yrs old you would have to think getting natural test started up again would be tough after a cycle.

For the OP @Titan72 I've tried everything you've mentioned and Primo was the easiest on my body and blood test results, except it raised my hemoglobin/RBC count more than anything (but iron intake is a factor with that too.) It also gave the least results mg for mg. Consensus says it is a good feeling compound, as is Masteron. I have not done just a test/masteron cycle though.

Anavar at 10mg/day should have a little negative effect on your body too except it'll temporarily trash your lipids somewhat. It'll help your body heal though and some think it gives your skin a more youthful appearance too. And it's quite anabolic mg for mg.

Many people your age take low dose deca for the joints.

But if it were me with your goals, I'd do something like:
300 test
400 primo
weekly, and
10mg anavar daily.

And optionally if joints are a concern, and you're not doing a PCT:
100mg deca weekly

But as for health goes, unless you're wasting away any significant weight you put on whether it's fat or muscle is a health risk. There's a reason slender people live longer, right?
 
150 test, 150 primo. Ramp up/adjust as needed and monitor your blood work.

Jumping on the TRT train might be something you want to look at as well.

I would avoid orals just to keep your lipids a little more clean, but it depends on how you respond. If you did add an oral, anavar would be the only one i would hit at 50, sadly it can also be harsh on lipids.
 
mikedee said:
Almost 50 here, current protocol and best cycle I’ve ever run. Your mileage may vary.

500 mg Test E wk - E3.5D
550 mg Deca wk - E3.5D
50 mg Tbol - ED wk 1-4
0.25 mg Caber - E3.5D
0.5 mg Anastrozole - 3x / wk
10 mg Tadalafil - ED
10 mg Cardarine - ED
50 mg Anadrol - 3x / wk (heavy days) wk 16-20

Support Stuff
1800 mg NAC - ED
500 mg Tudca - ED
5 g Taurine - ED
4K Fish Oil - ED
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Hello, sir.

I would say its too much.

Anastrozole and Cabergoline are not the safest drugs, and problems from a lack of estrogen and prolactine at an senior age seem to me more fatal than an excess.

These drugs should be taken only according to the tests, besides, for a couple of high-quality KG, the dosages seem excessive , but this is just my opinion.

Before recommending TRT to a person, I would take a look at the bloodtests, but the use of normal doses of testosterone with a small anabolic support (for example, primobolan) in the long term seems to me the more preferable option.
Titan72 said:
Hello all,

I am a man with an age of 50 years old.
I have trained 30 years natural. The last few years in summer i did a very light cycle.

Now, i want to start again with a cycle in approx 2 months.

I want to gain some solid mass. a few quility KG's should be nice.
Only, my health is very important for me, so i don't want to cycle/ risk with heavy amounts.
Some people advise me Test E with some Deca and a little masteron. Others advise me Test with Primobolan or anavar, Others only Test.

Some say Deca is not favourable at age 50, others say Masteron is not good for your lipids and prostate,

I really have no clue at all.

Can you guys advise me which in my situation is the best compunds with dosages?

Trenbolone and Equipose, HGH is for me a no go.

I am a quick responder on steroids. with only Test 300 mg per week i have gained 5 kg. (after quitting i lost 3-4 kg)

My stats; 1.83M. 102 KG (14% bodyfat)

I am not on TRT (maybe in 10 years)

Please can you advise what;s in my case the best option.

Thanks in advance for the advises !!
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do you have problems with blood pressure and hematocrit?
 
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