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Secret Sources, the SCOC and the Steroid Underground

CensoredBoardsSuck said:
I don't know whether secret sourcing is prevalent on Meso at the moment or not but what I do know is the perception members have for what the underground forum is supposed to be has slowly changed for the worse. For all intents and purposes, it's now viewed by too many as a source forum rather than a forum to discuss sources.

I think most of the blame for both of these problems can be placed on the SCOC for a couple of reasons.

First, the trend over the last year or so has been for members, particularly the newer ones, to use Meso primarily as a source forum because that is how they perceive it. We may tell new members that Meso isn't a source forum; that its purpose is to give them an uncensored forum where they can discuss sources. But when they see WKMs referring new sources to the SCOC, what are they to think? Why have a SCOC if Meso isn't a source forum? Due to the illegal nature of AAS and the need for discretion, when inexperienced members are told Meso isn't a source forum and then see sources being asked to comply with the SCOC, I suspect what they actually hear is "Meso isn't a source forum, wink, wink." When these junior members become senior members, the cycle will continue.

Secondly, rather than being used as a tool to vet sources, the SCOC is forcing sources into selling secretly. There's no question about that and we've already seen evidence that this is happening.

IMO, it's time to abandon the SCOC. It has failed to serve its purpose and it's causing more harm than good.

Regarding the perception that this is a source forum, how do we change it? I've seen some calling to rid Meso of all sources. Personally, I don't think we need to go that far. I don't have an issue with members having direct access to *established* sources on Meso - and by established I mean sources that have been around longer than a couple of years. Being established isn't a guarantee of quality as we've seen recently, but the odds of getting scammed outright are far lower.

What I think needs to change is the idea that these start-up bathtub brewers who have no experience and are only here because they managed to score a bag of powder and now think they're going to be the next drug kingpin deserve a shot. They don't deserve a shot. And that includes any members that might have started brewing and "secretly" selling. Start-ups are the kind of source the SCOC was designed to vet, the kind most likely to sell bunk gear, and the kind most likely to take the money and run. They have no business being here. They are using/abusing Meso's underground because it's free. With nothing invested, they have nothing to lose. And with nothing to lose, there's nothing to stop them from running off with your money.

What's even worse than the start-ups are the members (who should know better) that say these clowns should be given a chance because "someone has to try them." Well, no. No one has to try them. And no one should try them. Why members would even consider using high-risk start-up sources is beyond me. It's not just a question of being scammed, you're putting your health in jeopardy. And for what? A source who will be long gone in less than 6 months?

As far as I'm concerned, the SCOC is redundant. It was designed to give *non-viable* sources a chance they neither deserve, nor should get. It serves no purpose other than creating the impression that Meso is a source forum. In short, it's dragging the underground down.

The underground is an invaluable resource for members when used as intended. Allowing these clowns here is going to destroy it. It's time for members to stop fucking around and start thinking about the greater good. It's not about you finding a source. It was never about that.

Regards

CBS
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CensoredBoardsSuck said:
I don't know whether secret sourcing is prevalent on Meso at the moment or not but what I do know is the perception members have for what the underground forum is supposed to be has slowly changed for the worse. For all intents and purposes, it's now viewed by too many as a source forum rather than a forum to discuss sources.

I think most of the blame for both of these problems can be placed on the SCOC for a couple of reasons.

First, the trend over the last year or so has been for members, particularly the newer ones, to use Meso primarily as a source forum because that is how they perceive it. We may tell new members that Meso isn't a source forum; that its purpose is to give them an uncensored forum where they can discuss sources. But when they see WKMs referring new sources to the SCOC, what are they to think? Why have a SCOC if Meso isn't a source forum? Due to the illegal nature of AAS and the need for discretion, when inexperienced members are told Meso isn't a source forum and then see sources being asked to comply with the SCOC, I suspect what they actually hear is "Meso isn't a source forum, wink, wink." When these junior members become senior members, the cycle will continue.

Secondly, rather than being used as a tool to vet sources, the SCOC is forcing sources into selling secretly. There's no question about that and we've already seen evidence that this is happening.

IMO, it's time to abandon the SCOC. It has failed to serve its purpose and it's causing more harm than good.

Regarding the perception that this is a source forum, how do we change it? I've seen some calling to rid Meso of all sources. Personally, I don't think we need to go that far. I don't have an issue with members having direct access to *established* sources on Meso - and by established I mean sources that have been around longer than a couple of years. Being established isn't a guarantee of quality as we've seen recently, but the odds of getting scammed outright are far lower.

What I think needs to change is the idea that these start-up bathtub brewers who have no experience and are only here because they managed to score a bag of powder and now think they're going to be the next drug kingpin deserve a shot. They don't deserve a shot. And that includes any members that might have started brewing and "secretly" selling. Start-ups are the kind of source the SCOC was designed to vet, the kind most likely to sell bunk gear, and the kind most likely to take the money and run. They have no business being here. They are using/abusing Meso's underground because it's free. With nothing invested, they have nothing to lose. And with nothing to lose, there's nothing to stop them from running off with your money.

What's even worse than the start-ups are the members (who should know better) that say these clowns should be given a chance because "someone has to try them." Well, no. No one has to try them. And no one should try them. Why members would even consider using high-risk start-up sources is beyond me. It's not just a question of being scammed, you're putting your health in jeopardy. And for what? A source who will be long gone in less than 6 months?

As far as I'm concerned, the SCOC is redundant. It was designed to give *non-viable* sources a chance they neither deserve, nor should get. It serves no purpose other than creating the impression that Meso is a source forum. In short, it's dragging the underground down.

The underground is an invaluable resource for members when used as intended. Allowing these clowns here is going to destroy it. It's time for members to stop fucking around and start thinking about the greater good. It's not about you finding a source. It was never about that.

Regards

CBS
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Why is this fucking troll still a sticky? If this pos had his way we would have no sources.

This man was the most destructive member we ever had. He attacked every source that ever posted and with no reason.

The underground we have today is a testament against this pos.

Delete this sticky Millard.
 
Big_paul said:
Why is this fucking troll still a sticky? If this pos had his way we would have no sources.

This man was the most destructive member we ever had. He attacked every source that ever posted and with no reason.

The underground we have today is a testament against this pos.

Delete this sticky Millard.
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I’m pretty sure CdnGuy was right up there as well.
 
Big_paul said:
Why is this fucking troll still a sticky? If this pos had his way we would have no sources.

This man was the most destructive member we ever had. He attacked every source that ever posted and with no reason.

The underground we have today is a testament against this pos.

Delete this sticky Millard.
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Did you fall off the wagon again, Paul? How long have you been a member here and still not know wtf the site is about? Maybe try reading the mission statement before running your pudsucker again - after you dry out, of course. Fucking moron.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Did you fall off the wagon again, Paul? How long have you been a member here and still not know wtf the site is about? Maybe try reading the mission statement before running your pudsucker again - after you dry out, of course. Fucking moron.
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Like Big Paul said, you're a fucking troll. Get lost fool! You're the fucking moron.
 
PhilliesFan3 said:
Like Big Paul said, you're a fucking troll. Get lost fool! You're the fucking moron.
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Italian Muscle the pedo! I haven't seen your worthless ass around since @Millard permanently banned you for posting sick pedophilic fantasies involving 2 year-old little girls. I'm sure he'll ban you again now that I've made him aware that you're back. Meso is a no chomo zone. GTFO, kiddie diddler.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Italian Muscle the pedo! I haven't seen your worthless ass around since @Millard permanently banned you for posting sick pedophilic fantasies involving 2 year-old little girls. I'm sure he'll ban you again now that I've made him aware that you're back. Meso is a no chomo zone. GTFO, kiddie diddler.
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He's a big Naps fan as well as he's made a big splash in Naps' thread. Good looking out!
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
He's a greasy POS pedophile that keeps coming back under different usernames since getting banned for pedophilia. He's a mod on Juiced Muscle, Naps' forum - or at least he used to be. He doesn't do Naps any favors.
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At least I know he's a fanboy of Naps though.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Italian Muscle the pedo! I haven't seen your worthless ass around since @Millard permanently banned you for posting sick pedophilic fantasies involving 2 year-old little girls. I'm sure he'll ban you again now that I've made him aware that you're back. Meso is a no chomo zone. GTFO, kiddie diddler.
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i don't get out enough. i pegged him as being Naps using a throwaway handle to talk shit so that his main handle didn't get banned again.

Good info. Thanks for the insight.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Did you fall off the wagon again, Paul? How long have you been a member here and still not know wtf the site is about? Maybe try reading the mission statement before running your pudsucker again - after you dry out, of course. Fucking moron.
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Cbs just stating the obvious. You have to admit the underground looks much different now than when you attacked any source or member who disagreed with your narrow vision of a steroid board without steroids.

As for the mission statement, it's obvious that it needs updating. For what it's worth I don't think members should accept discounts or freebies.

Nice to commiserate. On my side clean and sober for years now. I apologize for the late reply. I have been busy. I just finished my first cycle in 3 years. When will you begin your first?
 
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