Simec rip off (until further notice)

[Steroidify]

I find it funny I've never seen a bad SIMEC with pharmacoms name in the customer spot.... Only AnabolicLab. Shows how great the program is to have around.

Still an interesting way to settle an argument Darius, I like it.

You owe yourself like 30k now! I see why you set up that 10k bet now!

The 10k bet Sir wasn't for a +/- 10% for all products and tests. It was for a specific case during a dispute with one of our contestants, who eventually didn't even purchased from us

Many of our lab results shows deviations up to 5%: LAB TESTS | Independent and customer lab test results for listed products at PharmacomStore.org

Actually, most of the perfect results (0.0% error) we got from AnabolicLab, for our Oxa and Dbol if I remember correctly.

We recently added ROAS ( Isotretinoin ) to our line. While testing the raws for it last year at SIMEC we did get some bad results on them:

Also, we recently tested at SIMEC our Injectable Anadrol (pharmaoxy) due to a bad result from AnabolicLab.
Restuls showed -1% and -5% for concentrations, so 2 different results.

 

[AnTabolic73]

I feel like a lady at a bar, and @Darius PharmacomStore is trying to pick me up. he knows exactly what to say, and how to say it.

 

[Blitz Comet]

Sir, all the tested products are reshipped and expenses covered by us. It has always been this way.



What kind of fuck ups Sir? Paying our customers to lab test our products and sending back the tested products?



Bummer .. I really hoped to get several hours of tan tomorrow, now with a new good lab result expected it will be a busy weekend.



Seeing how easily SIMEC can be influenced by Pharmacom, now I feel really sorry for letting them release these results ...


Label claim: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 has a label claim of 50 mg/ml oxymetholone.
Actual content: Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 was determined to have actual content of 37.9 mg/ml oxymetholone.

Label claim: Pharmacom PHARMA Test P100 has a label claim of 100 mg/ml testosterone propionate.

Actual content: Pharmacom PHARMA Test P100 was determined to have actual content of 83.5 mg/ml testosterone propionate.

Label claim: Pharmacom PHARMA Test E300 has a label claim of 300 mg/ml testosterone enanthate.
Actual content: Pharmacom PHARMA Test E300 was determined to have actual content of 363 mg/ml testosterone enanthate.

Ive just had bad expieriences with your products. Thats all im saying. I have no bloods yo back up so dont ask. Maybe im just immune to your specific brand.

 

[Milk Man]

Ive just had bad expieriences with your products. Thats all im saying. I have no bloods yo back up so dont ask. Maybe im just immune to your specific brand.

That sounds pretty rediculous, your immune to testosterone produced by pharmacom but not by other manufacturers?

 

[Blitz Comet]

That sounds pretty rediculous, your immune to testosterone produced by pharmacom but not by other manufacturers?

It was sarcasm my friend

 

[Geterdun]

@Darius PharmacomStore At the time I asked, it had been almost 16 weeks. The member had no test results, no replaced product and nobody was replying to his emails from Simec. More importantly, the member covered the expense until testing was finished.

 

[XKawN]

I feel like a lady at a bar, and @Darius PharmacomStore is trying to pick me up. he knows exactly what to say, and how to say it.

One time he told me he wanted to make love to me till his tongue fell off. My panties dropped like a box of rocks.

 

[GearGodess]

Pharmacom more famous last words of bullshit... it's pretty obvious you are laughing at your customers that are filling your pockets with thousands of dollars of their hard earned cash every day so you can spend your weekends on a beach in tropical places.

You're a typical bullshitter... good at first till you establish a reputation and now inconsistent with shitty products that mysteriously go missing when sent to your preferred SIMEC for testing. Seen this too many times. And your other bullshit reps claiming your batches are so huge at one time, how in the hell do you go from one report showing such underdosing than the next is even more or slightly less or close to proper.... all having the same batch numbers. You just enjoy playing dirty and unfortunately SIMEC is stuck in the middle as they may or may not be a solid testing resource.

I find it most ironic of all, the simple fact that all other tests that have been sent from other members that weren't your product have already been tested and sent back.... meanwhile Luca is STILL waiting on an answer 4 months later. I agree with @CdnGuy that this definitely smells fishy! And you don't have to be a genius to figure it out.

I had very little respect for Pcom after seeing all the problems with their products on various boards (not just here) and how they deal with conflict towards their customers, they are full of shit and whatever this test comes back as, I will not believe it!

And those that want to give me hell for this post, just suck it. I don't care to be pretending that Pcom is the best shit around, cause it isn't... just like you can go read the Canadian boards that are influenced by Canadian labs and claim they are the best where in reality, most of them just buy their ratings. So take this however you wish, it's my opinion and it will never change. I'd rather support small reputable proven true UGLS that have a solid record than these guys. AND I will continue calling out bullshit on all that I feel the need, just I have done so to several others not just Pcom.

@lucabratzi truly hope things will work out and someone at Pcom will somehow make things right for you... in this case, refund would be best IMO... not only you lost out on gear and your cycle but a lot of hard earned cash to receive no responses and just a runaround with bullshit excuses.

 

[Docd187123]

Pharmacom more famous last words of bullshit... it's pretty obvious you are laughing at your customers that are filling your pockets with thousands of dollars of their hard earned cash every day so you can spend your weekends on a beach in tropical places.

You're a typical bullshitter... good at first till you establish a reputation and now inconsistent with shitty products that mysteriously go missing when sent to your preferred SIMEC for testing. Seen this too many times. And your other bullshit reps claiming your batches are so huge at one time, how in the hell do you go from one report showing such underdosing than the next is even more or slightly less or close to proper.... all having the same batch numbers. You just enjoy playing dirty and unfortunately SIMEC is stuck in the middle as they may or may not be a solid testing resource.

I find it most ironic of all, the simple fact that all other tests that have been sent from other members that weren't your product have already been tested and sent back.... meanwhile Luca is STILL waiting on an answer 4 months later. I agree with @CdnGuy that this definitely smells fishy! And you don't have to be a genius to figure it out.

I had very little respect for Pcom after seeing all the problems with their products on various boards (not just here) and how they deal with conflict towards their customers, they are full of shit and whatever this test comes back as, I will not believe it!

And those that want to give me hell for this post, just suck it. I don't care to be pretending that Pcom is the best shit around, cause it isn't... just like you can go read the Canadian boards that are influenced by Canadian labs and claim they are the best where in reality, most of them just buy their ratings. So take this however you wish, it's my opinion and it will never change. I'd rather support small reputable proven true UGLS that have a solid record than these guys. AND I will continue calling out bullshit on all that I feel the need, just I have done so to several others not just Pcom.

@lucabratzi truly hope things will work out and someone at Pcom will somehow make things right for you... in this case, refund would be best IMO... not only you lost out on gear and your cycle but a lot of hard earned cash to receive no responses and just a runaround with bullshit excuses.

There is less than a handful of labs which have the capabilities and legal authority to test AAS and Simec is the cheapest in terms of pricing if I'm not mistaken. Plus, Millard Baker uses them primarily for his Anabolic Lab project. Simec is preferred for these reasons not whatever insidious theories people in this thread seem to be floating around or implying.

Can you point me to a single thread or member who sent any product into Simec AFTER Luba did and has gotten results back before him?

They already explain their crappy lot/batch number system. The batch number refers to the raw shipment they receive and the expiration date refers to which production run it was from so going off the batch number alone is misleading. You're right, it didn't take a genius to figure that out, just actually reading what they stated.

About having an opinion that will never change:

"He that never changes his opinion never corrects mistakes and will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today."

-Tryon Edwards

 

[GearGodess]

There is less than a handful of labs which have the capabilities and legal authority to test AAS and Simec is the cheapest in terms of pricing if I'm not mistaken. Plus, Millard Baker uses them primarily for his Anabolic Lab project. Simec is preferred for these reasons not whatever insidious theories people in this thread seem to be floating around or implying.

Can you point me to a single thread or member who sent any product into Simec AFTER Luba did and has gotten results back before him?

They already explain their crappy lot/batch number system. The batch number refers to the raw shipment they receive and the expiration date refers to which production run it was from so going off the batch number alone is misleading. You're right, it didn't take a genius to figure that out, just actually reading what they stated.

About having an opinion that will never change:

"He that never changes his opinion never corrects mistakes and will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today."

-Tryon Edwards

Hehe, I knew you'd reply to my post.

And that is why I said it isn't SIMEC per say, they are the ones stuck in the middle and just do testing. Pcom is truly the issue here. But you are right, they are one of the cheapest in Europe who do these kinds of test. <<<<see Docd I do agree with you on occasion

And there are tons of results that have comeback since Luca... just check the new posts... but let me gather them for you...

And my opinion of Pharmacom won't change as they still haven't given me a reason to think otherwise besides repeating the same shit over and over. So unless it changes, my opinion will still be THEY SUCK!

Any other topic, I am easily influenced to re consider my thoughts and opinions... but not when it comes to repeated shitty product from any so called "reputable" lab

xoxo ok habibi?

 

[GearGodess]

@Docd187123 here is one, samples submitted July and it was multiple samples... today is August.... didn't take 16 or more weeks....
Fresh Simec lab tests resuts

 

[Docd187123]

Hehe, I knew you'd reply to my post.

And that is why I said it isn't SIMEC per say, they are the ones stuck in the middle and just do testing. Pcom is truly the issue here. But you are right, they are one of the cheapest in Europe who do these kinds of test. <<<<see Docd I do agree with you on occasion

And there are tons of results that have comeback since Luca... just check the new posts... but let me gather them for you...

And my opinion of Pharmacom won't change as they still haven't given me a reason to think otherwise besides repeating the same shit over and over. So unless it changes, my opinion will still be THEY SUCK!

Any other topic, I am easily influenced to re consider my thoughts and opinions... but not when it comes to repeated shitty product from any so called "reputable" lab

xoxo ok habibi?

Hahahaha. Habibi!!!! Now we're speaking my language

I don't mean to be hostile towards you just pointing out things as I see them so thank you for not takin my post too personally.

I agree pharmacom seems to have lost much of its initial appeal. Are they absolutely shitty? Probably not when compared to others like astro lol. Either way, their reputation is up to them to protect and uphold, not us as members and those who happen to be customers.

I always check out the lab testing section. Nothing stands out in my mind regarding someone sending a sample to Simec after Luba who's also got results back. I'm double check but if you know of a thread off hand I'd appreciate a tip lol

 

[turcao]

@Docd187123 here is one, samples submitted July and it was multiple samples... today is August.... didn't take 16 or more weeks....
Fresh Simec lab tests resuts

Those samples were submitted in April I believe and took 3 months for the results. They are not using the American dating system of month -day-year

 

[Docd187123]

@Docd187123 here is one, samples submitted July and it was multiple samples... today is August.... didn't take 16 or more weeks....
Fresh Simec lab tests resuts

No ma'am. Those samples were not submitted in July. They were submitted April 4, 2016. Remember the Europeans write their dates in day/month/year format not like we do in the states and Canada. For proof of that look at the bottom of those test results when they say completed date. It says completed 11/7/2016 and we're not in November of 2016 yet.

 

[Docd187123]

Those samples were submitted in April I believe and took 3 months for the results. They are not using the American dating system of month -day-year

Beat me to the punch dammit

 

[GearGodess]

Hahahaha. Habibi!!!! Now we're speaking my language

I don't mean to be hostile towards you just pointing out things as I see them so thank you for not takin my post too personally.

I agree pharmacom seems to have lost much of its initial appeal. Are they absolutely shitty? Probably not when compared to others like astro lol. Either way, their reputation is up to them to protect and uphold, not us as members and those who happen to be customers.

I always check out the lab testing section. Nothing stands out in my mind regarding someone sending a sample to Simec after Luba who's also got results back. I'm double check but if you know of a thread off hand I'd appreciate a tip lol

Hey, I have a few good friends from Lebanon and could never understand why they called me that as it sounded like a piece of meat (don't ask, long story and just sounded funny to me at first, I'm from Europe so I could be a little strange some times... hehehe... but I do pick up languages very quickly plus I speak 3 languages and can 'manage' conversations in 3-4 others)... but as long as it's not.... CH**SE then it's all good plus I felt it was appropriate to keep it lovey and light as I know we both jumped each others' throats on several occasions but it creates good conversation and different view points. But I have to agree, I do get very sensitive when gear is involved as there are too many AS$holes out there and as a woman using gear, it pisses me off seeing garbage... and that is why I always get involved in those threads if I feel they are in the wrong.

Anyway, I always look forward to your posts... I guess we have that love/hate relationship on certain topics but that's what a solid passionate 'friendship' is all about

And I know I have seen more in others posts that were doing logs, I'll have to find them, plus I have seen on other boards just this week alone... I could say that at a minimum, there have been at least 10 samples submitted and results have come back already... As soon as I find them, I will link them for you.
xo

 

[GearGodess]

No ma'am. Those samples were not submitted in July. They were submitted April 4, 2016. Remember the Europeans write their dates in day/month/year format not like we do in the states and Canada. For proof of that look at the bottom of those test results when they say completed date. It says completed 11/7/2016 and we're not in November of 2016 yet.

Beat me to the punch dammit

there are others and these were done in less time anyways so yes Luca is being pushed around...

 

[Docd187123]

Hey, I have a few good friends from Lebanon and could never understand why they called me that as it sounded like a piece of meat (don't ask, long story and just sounded funny to me at first, I'm from Europe so I could be a little strange some times... hehehe... but I do pick up languages very quickly plus I speak 3 languages and can 'manage' conversations in 3-4 others)... but as long as it's not.... CH**SE then it's all good plus I felt it was appropriate to keep it lovey and light as I know we both jumped each others' throats on several occasions but it creates good conversation and different view points. But I have to agree, I do get very sensitive when gear is involved as there are too many AS$holes out there and as a woman using gear, it pisses me off seeing garbage... and that is why I always get involved in those threads if I feel they are in the wrong.

Anyway, I always look forward to your posts... I guess we have that love/hate relationship on certain topics but that's what a solid passionate 'friendship' is all about

And I know I have seen more in others posts that were doing logs, I'll have to find them, plus I have seen on other boards just this week alone... I could say that at a minimum, there have been at least 10 samples submitted the last few weeks and results have come back already... As soon as I find them, I will link them for you.
xo

Yea habibi is just a term of endearment. You say it to kids, loved ones, husbands/wives, someone you're in a relationship with etc. it's like mi amor in Spanish or honey in English. most of my family is still in Lebanon or in France. Working on my 4th and 5th languages but they're not coming as easy as the first 3

You're right about the posts and whatnot. I'll try to keep my tone more friendly as I know it can come off as dickish

 

[Docd187123]

there are others and these were done in less time anyways so yes Luca is being pushed around...

I don't mean to imply that he shouldn't have gotten the results sooner or that constantly changing promised dates is ok. Just that Pcom isn't in bed with Simec bc of Luba's delays. Simec risks their accreditation, the one thing they need to keep bringing in business, if they do any hanky panky for Pcom lol. Without their accreditation Simec is nothing more than an expensive building.

 

[GearGodess]

Yea habibi is just a term of endearment. You say it to kids, loved ones, husbands/wives, someone you're in a relationship with etc. it's like mi amor in Spanish or honey in English. most of my family is still in Lebanon or in France. Working on my 4th and 5th languages but they're not coming as easy as the first 3

You're right about the posts and whatnot. I'll try to keep my tone more friendly as I know it can come off as dickish

Yes, they told me it means 'my dear' or 'sweetheart' and what you said... so many variations that it almost depends who you say it to. There are others I know but I am pretty sure they aren't appropriate... hehehe... So Mr. Habibi Doc... I have gotten to know you over the last while and I sensed you had to be middle eastern due to the character and persona you have here... I know eventually I will get that soft spot out of ya!

4 and 5 languages! That's awesome... I'm still perfecting Italian... but what I found is (not counting the actual writing and alphabet but strictly conversational) My native language is Polish, I also have German and French in me so naturally I had to speak to my two grandmothers in their language... once I was fluent in those, it was fairly easy to learn English and Spanish as they are similar to German (or at least I found many similarities) and Spanish and Polish (believe it or not) has helped me with Italian. I also lived in Asia for a while so I picked up some Mandarin as well...

Soooooo does that mean I actually got a smile out of you??? hehehe... and I'm glad.