eery
Well-known Member
My first thought on a long acting GH would be the constantly elevated FFAs leading to insulin resistance but it'll be cool to see how this plays out in practice in someone that lifts and diets seriously.
MESO-Rx
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My first thought on a long acting GH would be the constantly elevated FFAs leading to insulin resistance but it'll be cool to see how this plays out in practice in someone that lifts and diets seriously.
ZyzzReincarnate
Member
Following.
xrayphoton13
Well-known Member
Just saw chase irons post a video saying he ran labs 5 days after injecting ngenla and bloodwork showed none in his system. Doesn't sound like ngenla will live up to the hype if true
AlexDavis43
Member
I saw the first video when @ChaseIrons started taking NGENLA. There is a member here who posted values suggesting otherwise. 1 day post injection GH was high, and a week later IGF-1 was still elevated iirc.
Maybe they can chime in if they're reading this.
AlexDavis43
Member
Since no one asked and it's after dark I'll just leave my opinions here:
1) NGENLA makes kids grow (studies) but the bodybuilding applications are unknown;
2) one member reported rapid rise in serum GH and sustained rise in IGF-1 levels one week post-injection of 10 mg NGENLA;
3) pricing is on par with pharma hGH, a little more expensive for the convenience of once-weekly injection vs twice daily;
4) AGAIN: bodybuilding applications unknown. Is it as good as tried and true twice-daily hGH administration?
1) NGENLA makes kids grow (studies) but the bodybuilding applications are unknown;
2) one member reported rapid rise in serum GH and sustained rise in IGF-1 levels one week post-injection of 10 mg NGENLA;
3) pricing is on par with pharma hGH, a little more expensive for the convenience of once-weekly injection vs twice daily;
4) AGAIN: bodybuilding applications unknown. Is it as good as tried and true twice-daily hGH administration?
xeonmasters
Member
My blood work shows the opposite
AlexDavis43
Member
songsofpyramids
Well-known Member
Can you give us a feels report?
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
and what does your bloodwork show? im sure theres more than a few members who are curious tia
AlexDavis43
Member
Pretty sure it was @xeonmasters who posted GH and IGF 10 hours and 10 days after injecting 10 mg NGENLA. Could try search bar unless he beats you to it.
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
honestly i have a time with that search bar , i dont know if i over word it or under word it , but it "seldom" works for me , and i try like crazy too lol
xeonmasters
Member
Honestly, nothing special. Nails growing faster, water retention as usual, like 3~4ui hGH (at 10mg dosage weekly)
The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy
How are you going to use Ngenla? Dose/protocol? Please do IGF-1 testing after a few weeks. Maybe we can negotiate some reimbursement from @TheLobster so users can get an idea how this new product compares to typical IGF-1 responses from hGH. What do you think, @TheLobster? Seem reasonable...
thinksteroids.com
my basal hGH is <0.6ng/mL, 11 hours after injection peaked 4.5ng/mL and IGF1 raised +100ng/mL (basal IGF1 is 184ng/mL and peaked to 258ng/mL - 11 hours after injection)
7 days post injection, hGH was at 1.137ng/mL and IGF1 kept at 256ng/mL
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in my humble opinion, I would use Ngenla + Lantus to break some plateau during an off-season
Ateam2023
Well-known Member
thanks you @xeonmastersHonestly, nothing special. Nails growing faster, water retention as usual, like 3~4ui hGH (at 10mg dosage weekly)
The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy
How are you going to use Ngenla? Dose/protocol? Please do IGF-1 testing after a few weeks. Maybe we can negotiate some reimbursement from @TheLobster so users can get an idea how this new product compares to typical IGF-1 responses from hGH. What do you think, @TheLobster? Seem reasonable...
my basal hGH is <0.6ng/mL, 11 hours after injection peaked 4.5ng/mL and IGF1 raised +100ng/mL (basal IGF1 is 184ng/mL and peaked to 258ng/mL - 11 hours after injection)
7 days post injection, hGH was at 1.137ng/mL and IGF1 kept at 256ng/mL
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in my humble opinion, I would use Ngenla + Lantus to break some plateau during an off-season
Intrepid
Banned
long acting GH + long acting insulin is a recipe for disaster, with regards to mounting insulin resistance.Honestly, nothing special. Nails growing faster, water retention as usual, like 3~4ui hGH (at 10mg dosage weekly)
The Lobster International,EU and UK domestic HGH,PEPTIDES and Turkish Pharmacy
How are you going to use Ngenla? Dose/protocol? Please do IGF-1 testing after a few weeks. Maybe we can negotiate some reimbursement from @TheLobster so users can get an idea how this new product compares to typical IGF-1 responses from hGH. What do you think, @TheLobster? Seem reasonable...
my basal hGH is <0.6ng/mL, 11 hours after injection peaked 4.5ng/mL and IGF1 raised +100ng/mL (basal IGF1 is 184ng/mL and peaked to 258ng/mL - 11 hours after injection)
7 days post injection, hGH was at 1.137ng/mL and IGF1 kept at 256ng/mL
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in my humble opinion, I would use Ngenla + Lantus to break some plateau during an off-season
With that combination, insulin resistance will be unavoidable. It won't matter how much cardio you do, how much metformin you take, or GLPs you add
Even with normal GH and fast acting insulin that's in an out much quicker, you'll notice your fasted blood glucose starts to mount over time, which is why most people cycle the insulin, allowing themselves a period to let insulin resistance reset.
I would stick to fast acting insulin personally, and if it's not going to be cycled responsibly, as in 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off--another thing I'm seeing people do is incorporate fast acting insulin 1-2x a week on their heavy days (usually legs and back day), then the other days are carb cycling with fasted cardio. Doing it this way could let you run the insulin much longer without needing to necessarily do an "on" and "off" protocol for insulin resistance
checking your fasted blood glucose is important. It'll paint the picture of what's actually happening
Type-IIx
Well-known Member
Why is everyone beating around the bush that OP scammed another board member?
Why isn’t this product being called into question?
Whose the source of this?
Why isn’t this product being called into question?
Whose the source of this?
AlexDavis43
Member
Based on very few data points, I predicted 10 mg NGENLA/wk would be similar to 2-3 IU hGH/d. Pretty close to your estimate.
AlexDavis43
Member
Calling NGENLA into question? What question would that be?
There are a few sources here that carry it.
The Pinnacle drama is in another thread.
Type-IIx
Well-known Member
Yeah. And the source. I have a lot to say about somatrogon. I might even be able to add particularity if I know the particular source, to boot.
ZyzzReincarnate
Member
I dont see how that could be the case. 10mg Ngenla per week would be equivalent to 10 ÷ 7 = 1.42iu/day. That does depend on the half live though. I'm not saying this is fact, just saying what I think
AlexDavis43
Member
That doesn't make sense. I mean, it's just wrong.
