Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[lifter6973]

I have added my share but doesn't the kindness in this thread make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?

 

[muscletrain]

Reread my post and answer my fucking question. How old are you?

Never pinned a drop of Stanfords gear either, and I don't need to wait on some double wide trailer trash gear as we have labs like Pareto/SYN/Innovagen up here that have been running for 7+ years so I'm fine thanks.

I'm not "stuck on Stanford" I was also in MLI's thread shitting on his horrible practices for pages and pages until he was ran off the board. This is meso is it not where we call it like it is? Witch hunt or not it's clear Stanford has somethings he can easily clear up based on what has been presented, no?

And my age how does that have any relevance to this topic at all? Is it just a pivot point for you where I give you an age and you just make a age related comment based on my answer?

Maybe focus on the actual issues instead of worrying about my age for some reason.

 

[Oldschool]

Never pinned a drop of Stanfords gear either, and I don't need to wait on some double wide trailer trash gear as we have labs like Pareto/SYN/Innovagen up here that have been running for 7+ years so I'm fine thanks.

I'm not "stuck on Stanford" I was also in MLI's thread shitting on his horrible practices for pages and pages until he was ran off the board. This is meso is it not where we call it like it is? Witch hunt or not it's clear Stanford has somethings he can easily clear up based on what has been presented, no?

And my age how does that have any relevance to this topic at all? Is it just a pivot point for you where I give you an age and you just make a age related comment based on my answer?

Maybe focus on the actual issues instead of worrying about my age for some reason.

How old are you?

 

[Test_Subject]

Me being vetted. Sorry, but it's just too late for vetting. I've already been here too long.

Is this guy for real? Fuck me...

Sources are choosing whether they get vetted or not, now?

 

[muscletrain]

How old are you?

Between the age range of 28-42. How old are you and whats your hair and eye color? Do you like long walks on the beach?

 

[Oldschool]

Is this guy for real? Fuck me...

Now sources are choosing whether they get vetted or not?

I think he is. Lol.

 

[Oldschool]

Between the age range of 28-42. How old are you and whats your hair and eye color? Do you like long walks on the beach?

Well my age is in my profile. I don’t hide it like some do. Lol. Thing is you whine like a bitch about me answering your question but won’t answer mine. You sound like a fucking teenager.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

A source having a jacked up personal live is just a part of the Op sec puzzle or u end up with your source shooting off rifles in his front yard in his underwear while his meth head gf calls the cops or something.

Once again at a minimum show lab pics or even raws with crumpled paper like @Mighty-mouse said.

I also see certain people just outright avoiding why this an issue @Oldschool has been around forever but I quoted him twice and asked for his thoughts on stanford showing his setup/gear and he just kept on trucking with arguing with mac11 like these valid questions were never asked. Some people more concerned with the fact that this was brought to light and who it may have been over the fact that even if the guy was a "rat" or had some alterior motive it really shined a light on how Stanford pretty much got special treatment and bypassed all checks. Now he just keeps repeating how apparently he can open up in a couple weeks but can't drive down to the lab to protect that precious reputation that should be a hall pass for Meso to avoid providing the proof that all sources that sell here are asked to do. Seems 100% legit to me.

As it stands dude could just be selling pre-made gear and been lying the whole time, he has given zero reason why he should not post a picture of his lab. This does not pose a security risk, scrub your photo of EXIF data etc.

1) You either have a disgusting garage lab or double wide trailer converted
2) You don't actually brew your gear and it comes to you and you slap a nice lil label on the vials
3) You have a super awesome ISO lab cause you have been apparently brewing for a minimum of like 15 years but you're so tone deaf to peoples concerns that you really feel like you don't have to post photos like every other source. This 3rd option would just mean you have a major ego issue and or inability to process things logically. I also doubt this is the case by the questions you have asked under your other handle for bottle top filters not to mention you don't run anything "advanced" as tablets and everything is caps or liquid orals correct?

All 3 options look pretty bad at this point.

Before I write the rest of this post I just want to say I'm not cool with the behind the scenes vetting and circumvention of the process.

Ok said it. Now on to the post lol.

The behind the scenes sourcing, behind the scenes vetting and no vetting and shilling up a upcoming lab has always happened around here. The only difference are the faces doing it. It will happen again and again and again and I'd even wager that a few members who've posted in this thread calling bullshit on behind the scenes shenanigans will have a hand in a future sleazy source arrival.

Where there is free gear to be made there will be some once trusted vets there to scoop it up and put their reputations on the line. It's no big deal to them cause they'll just come back under a different handle and within 6 to 8 months they'll be in like Flynn like it never happened and then rinse and repeat.

I've seen it so much since I've been here that I don't really pay it much mind anymore and as you'll notice a lot of us that have been here for as long or longer than I have dont bat an eye to it anymore. It's not right but there really isn't fuck all we can do to stop it other than expose it when it gets found out and move on.

And I wont be coy and say I wont order from that kinda source either. It's just like doing your homework on a paid source board you'll know which ones have decent gear and which ones are just sleazy member scams. Where there is illegal money and drugs involved you'll always have shady shit involved as well. Just be careful and be safe as can be, always. Get your money in while it's still good and when things start to get that certain "feel" to them hold onto your money and caution the members. You'll always have someone stick up for them and shit on you but in the end you'll be vindicated same as what happened with me and Elite Labs, members jumped all over my shit when I started pointing out certain issues with him but in the end I was right and he went tits up and some folks got burned cause they sucked that source dick just a hair too long and got a little nut in the eye. And now days they are gone and I'm still here.

I guess what I'm saying is dont be surprised when it happens again soon. I'm sure the makings of another Stanford, Stretch, Bio, OdieM, Manwhore, Notits (I think that was his handle), and so many more that I cant remember off hand, is already here and sourcing and it'll only be a matter of time till it blows up and becomes the next "Mesogate"

 

[Oldschool]

Well my age is in my profile. I don’t hide it like some do. Lol. Thing is you whine like a bitch about me answering your question but won’t answer mine. You sound like a fucking teenager.

Edit. My age was in my profile. I’m 47. How about you?

 

[muscletrain]

Before I write the rest of this post I just want to say I'm not cool with the behind the scenes vetting and circumvention of the process.

Ok said it. Now on to the post lol.

The behind the scenes sourcing, behind the scenes vetting and no vetting and shilling up a upcoming lab has always happened around here. The only difference are the faces doing it. It will happen again and again and again and I'd even wager that a few members who've posted in this thread calling bullshit on behind the scenes shenanigans will have a hand in a future sleazy source arrival.

Where there is free gear to be made there will be some once trusted vets there to scoop it up and put their reputations on the line. It's no big deal to them cause they'll just come back under a different handle and within 6 to 8 months they'll be in like Flynn like it never happened and then rinse and repeat.

I've seen it so much since I've been here that I don't really pay it much mind anymore and as you'll notice a lot of us that have been here for as long or longer than I have dont bat an eye to it anymore. It's not right but there really isn't fuck all we can do to stop it other than expose it when it gets found out and move on.

And I wont be coy and say I wont order from that kinda source either. It's just like doing your homework on a paid source board you'll know which ones have decent gear and which ones are just sleazy member scams. Where there is illegal money and drugs involved you'll always have shady shit involved as well. Just be careful and be safe as can be, always. Get your money in while it's still good and when things start to get that certain "feel" to them hold onto your money and caution the members. You'll always have someone stick up for them and shit on you but in the end you'll be vindicated same as what happened with me and Elite Labs, members jumped all over my shit when I started pointing out certain issues with him but in the end I was right and he went tits up and some folks got burned cause they sucked that source dick just a hair too long and got a little nut in the eye. And now days they are gone and I'm still here.

I guess what I'm saying is dont be surprised when it happens again soon. I'm sure the makings of another Stanford, Stretch, Bio, OdieM, Manwhore, Notits (I think that was his handle), and so many more that I cant remember off hand, is already here and sourcing and it'll only be a matter of time till it blows up and becomes the next "Mesogate"

I agree that it won't go away, but I think that's supposed to be the cornerstone of meso, call the bullshit out if you see it. I mean I don't think @Oldschool has shit to do with stanford but if he thinks @Mac11wildcat or some discord crew are behind this put them on blast? Who the fuck is in this discord crew? The reason I tagged you and asked about Stanford because all your references to him were basically he has a squeaky clean record, he's never scammed anyone etc. Which I can see but I don't think that gives him some free ride like what the fuck was that post "sorry its too late for vetting". I'm not saying the OP isn't some POS who has ulterior motives but I mean both things can be true at the same time. OP is a POS and some obvious stuff came out about Stanford that can easily be addressed since his track record seems good.

I think any other source would be laughed in his face if he said "it's too late for that" "my reputation is enough". Right in the world of rip off artists and scammers everyone is just supposed to agree with you. No ones asking for anything crazy either....lab photo...raws...done? Just seems fishy to me and I'm not domestic either so I don't have skin in this.

PS. I only see Male listed in your profile Oldschool, good enough for me. Movies or dinner?

 

[Oldschool]

I agree that it won't go away, but I think that's supposed to be the cornerstone of meso, call the bullshit out if you see it. I mean I don't think @Oldschool has shit to do with stanford but if he thinks @Mac11wildcat or some discord crew are behind this put them on blast? Who the fuck is in this discord crew? The reason I tagged you and asked about Stanford because all your references to him were basically he has a squeaky clean record, he's never scammed anyone etc. Which I can see but I don't think that gives him some free ride like what the fuck was that post "sorry its too late for vetting". I'm not saying the OP isn't some POS who has ulterior motives but I mean both things can be true at the same time. OP is a POS and some obvious stuff came out about Stanford that can easily be addressed since his track record seems good.

I think any other source would be laughed in his face if he said "it's too late for that" "my reputation is enough". Right in the world of rip off artists and scammers everyone is just supposed to agree with you. No ones asking for anything crazy either....lab photo...raws...done? Just seems fishy to me and I'm not domestic either so I don't have skin in this.

PS. I only see Male listed in your profile Oldschool, good enough for me. Movies or dinner?

You’ve been tagged in the home brew section punk. Go get you some education. Maybe one day you will have your own stickied thread!

 

[Oldschool]

I'm not domestic either so I don't have skin in this

So shut your fucking mouth

 

[Oldschool]

Edit. My age was in my profile. I’m 47. How about you?

So cocktrain how old are you? Simple question. Lol.

 

[muscletrain]

You’ve been tagged in the home brew section punk. Go get you some education. Maybe one day you will have your own stickied thread!

Awesome sounds like he knows a lot must have a crazy lab setup with that knowledge and 15 years of brewing. I await a nice lab shot or even a shot of raws like @Mighty-mouse asked for.

I'm not sure what your point is? Everyone shut it down he has a stickied thread in the homebrew section as Stanford himself said reputation speaks for himself and it's too late for vetting so don't ask.

"He should post a lab setup and raws photo" as asked by many others not just me. You tag me in his stickied thread? great that clears that up. Didn't know meso now operated on self-vetting and pinky swears.

So shut your fucking mouth

Forgot the Meso board rules of not commenting unless you're from the same country. Please disregard all posts.

 

[Oldschool]

Awesome sounds like he knows a lot must have a crazy lab setup with that knowledge and 15 years of brewing. I await a nice lab shot or even a shot of raws like @Mighty-mouse asked for.

I'm not sure what your point is? Everyone shut it down he has a stickied thread in the homebrew section as Stanford himself said reputation speaks for himself and it's too late for vetting so don't ask.

"He should post a lab setup and raws photo" as asked by many others not just me. You tag me in his stickied thread? great that clears that up. Didn't know meso now operated on self-vetting and pinky swears.



Forgot the Meso board rules of not commenting unless you're from the same country. Please disregard all posts.

Age?

 

[bolder]

I take it all went well with your surgery?

Yessir. Surgery went great and my recovery was suppose to be 6 weeks taking it easy and not lifting over 10lbs. I did really good with that the first week...
Then I felt like I had to take advantage of being off work and get some things done at home. Like adding a room onto my house because my son is moving back home.
I’m hopeful it didn’t fuck up my recovery too bad lol.
Thanks for asking

 

[Oldschool]

Awesome sounds like he knows a lot must have a crazy lab setup with that knowledge and 15 years of brewing. I await a nice lab shot or even a shot of raws like @Mighty-mouse asked for.

I'm not sure what your point is? Everyone shut it down he has a stickied thread in the homebrew section as Stanford himself said reputation speaks for himself and it's too late for vetting so don't ask.

"He should post a lab setup and raws photo" as asked by many others not just me. You tag me in his stickied thread? great that clears that up. Didn't know meso now operated on self-vetting and pinky swears.



Forgot the Meso board rules of not commenting unless you're from the same country. Please disregard all posts.

Is muscle train your only handle? Have you been here under another handle? Or are you just another chihuahua? Lol.

 

[Oldschool]

Yessir. Surgery went great and my recovery was suppose to be 6 weeks taking it easy and not lifting over 10lbs. I did really good with that the first week...
Then I felt like I had to take advantage of being off work and get some things done at home. Like adding a room onto my house because my son is moving back home.
I’m hopeful it didn’t fuck up my recovery too bad lol.
Thanks for asking

Yessir. Surgery went great and my recovery was suppose to be 6 weeks taking it easy and not lifting over 10lbs. I did really good with that the first week...
Then I felt like I had to take advantage of being off work and get some things done at home. Like adding a room onto my house because my son is moving back home.
I’m hopeful it didn’t fuck up my recovery too bad lol.
Thanks for asking

Glad to hear that Boulder. Take it slow coming back.

 

[muscletrain]

I gave you an age range for where I fall, solid rebuttals. 47 year old that slings insults left and right and just side steps arguments to random tangents like whats your exact age so I can comment on that, not the valid points that are being presented.

"He should post lab photos and raws"

"Shut the fuck up you're not domestic"
"Here go read Stanford's stickied thread"
"How old are you cocktrain"

Interesting I'm sold on this stan guy thanks.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Yessir. Surgery went great and my recovery was suppose to be 6 weeks taking it easy and not lifting over 10lbs. I did really good with that the first week...
Then I felt like I had to take advantage of being off work and get some things done at home. Like adding a room onto my house because my son is moving back home.
I’m hopeful it didn’t fuck up my recovery too bad lol.
Thanks for asking

I'm gonna need the same surgery before long myself. I've had a umbilical tear for over a year now and its slowly tearing more. Maybe a little over a 1 inch tear as of now but my belly button is slowly popping out more and more.

If you dont mind me asking what did it run you out of pocket for the surgery?