Static holds and muscle hypertrophy

[MANWHORE]

This is from an old issue of Ironman i thought it was very interesting......... George Olesen who is a strongman from Denmark. He has a 20in left bicep and a 23in right bicep. They claim his 700lb 1 finger lift(static hold)gave him the extra 3in in his right arm. His right bicep is clearly alot bigger than his left........Wish i could show you the scanned pics from the mag but this site doesn't allow anything over so many MB of space. http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6786http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6787

 

[dukebrown99]

Ya holding 700 lbs with one finger made him swell up. Hell I dont know Im doing the DC style now and the static holds area bitch but really exhausts the muscle.

 

[MANWHORE]

I'd really like to see some more opinions on this

 

[muslhed1971]

Yeah me too as I will soon be switching over to DC training.

 

[MANWHORE]

Yeah me too as I will soon be switching over to DC training.

Can you give me an example of DCs training because i always thought him and IA followed a HD type training

 

[muslhed1971]

Can you give me an example of DCs training because i always thought him and IA followed a HD type training

Here is a link posted by another bro on another thread that explains the DC training methods. Pretty in depth read and very interesting theory.
http://forum.xtrememass.com/archive/index.php/t-1138.html

 

[MANWHORE]

Here is a link posted by another bro on another thread that explains the DC training methods. Pretty in depth read and very interesting theory.
http://forum.xtrememass.com/archive/index.php/t-1138.html

Thanks bro,i'll read it when i have about an hr I could be wrong but i think way too many people think way too much about working out. I just got to the part where he says his recovery ability has increased a little since he 1st started. It increased more than he thinks it's just that now his training is more intense now and it takes more to recover. I have to read more

 

[MANWHORE]

OK i can't read it all,i give up It's just someone else taking a Mentzer workout and changing..... or doing i don't know what with it. Taking each set to positive failure... training 4X in 8 days... 152 growth phases instead of 70? HUH? I didn't realize a muscle could only grow so much from each workout. So does the muscle max out at 5% after each workout 10% even if one trains to failure with 1 set....2 sets.... not training to failure at all? Seems a bit CRAZY to me.... Quote from DC: READ THAT AGAIN PLEASE: AS YOU PROGRESS AS A BODYBUILDER IN SIZE AND STRENGTH YOU
NEED TO TAKE EVEN MORE REST AND RECOVERY TIME..... Yeah,if you want more size,No friggin shit! ..... I'm going to get all my BBing books together,take a little from each book,and come up with a amazing workout. Think i can be a personal trainer then?

 

[Skrewdriver]

OK i can't read it all,i give up It's just someone else taking a Mentzer workout and changing..... or doing i don't know what with it. Taking each set to positive failure... training 4X in 8 days... 152 growth phases instead of 70? HUH? I didn't realize a muscle could only grow so much from each workout. So does the muscle max out at 5% after each workout 10% even if one trains to failure with 1 set....2 sets.... not training to failure at all? Seems a bit CRAZY to me.... Quote from DC: READ THAT AGAIN PLEASE: AS YOU PROGRESS AS A BODYBUILDER IN SIZE AND STRENGTH YOU
NEED TO TAKE EVEN MORE REST AND RECOVERY TIME..... Yeah,if you want more size,No friggin shit! ..... I'm going to get all my BBing books together,take a little from each book,and come up with a amazing workout. Think i can be a personal trainer then?

A lot of people like to put down Mentzer's theory of training but they sure
do like to copy his stuff and call it their own.

 

[MANWHORE]

I just can't seem to stick to anything other than Mentzers workout. I don't have much time to spend working out in the 1st place,and i just don't feel anything other than a nice pump if i don't take each set to failure(right now just close to failure because i'm really just preping my body for my future workouts)..If i can get all out failure i will only need 1 set but because i may not have proper pre workout nutrition right on,i usually do 2 sets per exercise. 4 sets for chest and so on. Intense,Brief,infrequent it's just that simple. As far as Diet well,i never could stick to a strict one. Do i think many people take in to many G of protein? Yes,i sure do but that's really all i have to say about diet

 

[Freddy]

Peak contraction, not static holding, is best for hypertrophy.

There are certain strength training applications for static holds, namely grip training. This is just not good for hypertrophy however. You'll tax your neural systems quite a bit, which will obviously have a big neural effect.

Will this make you bigger? Clearly not, as everyone with the same size muscle would be exactly as strong. Never assume a causal relationship between neural muscular strength and hypertrophy of the sarcomere.

Also the loading is far too low. Holding maximal weight for a few seconds provides miniscule loading, because as we've already established the effect on your CNS precludes high loading. Basically, you can't do it ENOUGH because its hard to recover from.

Now, if you DID want to do it, you'd have to do it very, very often. Way more often then any of you will do it, I guarentee you. I mean, think manual labor farm-hand style...holding farm equipment for hours on end, 6 days a week. Of course to do this, you'd need SUBMAXIMAL weight, instead of supra-maximal weight, like I see advocated in this type of training.

Also, you'd obviously get zero sarcoplasmic hypertrophy from this type of training (supramaximal static holding), which lets face it, like it or not, BBers should be concerned with. Myofibril/Sarcomere hypetrophy should be your primary concern, but sarcoplasmic hypetrophy can't be ignored, at least if you want to be competitive.

 

[MANWHORE]

OK that sounds great but it doesn't answer the question HOW IS HIS RIGHT BI 23 AND LEFT BI 20? Sounded good though