Suggestions for a 44-year old primarily interested in aesthetics

[Tdiitd]

Im suprised to see so many recommending Var, even at low doses for an "older" person. I would assume the strain on liver and/kidneys/cholesterol would be a concern for everyone, epsecially someone over 40. No?

 

[Tdiitd]

I agree though with what seems the overall advice. Simple cycles, like test only, or test with a little HGH can really get most some noticeable results. Performance and physique wise. Creeping the test dose up over time may be a good option. Just gotta keep diet and estrogen in check if you want it to be fairly lean/dry gains.

 

[Rido]

Im suprised to see so many recommending Var, even at low doses for an "older" person. I would assume the strain on liver and/kidneys/cholesterol would be a concern for everyone, epsecially someone over 40. No?

It is not as stressful as you think it is on reasonable doses.

Even anadrol was only seen to show liver stress at 100mg for elderly men

 

[eryximachus]

Im suprised to see so many recommending Var, even at low doses for an "older" person. I would assume the strain on liver and/kidneys/cholesterol would be a concern for everyone, epsecially someone over 40. No?

While I probably won't use it, I'm open to all perspectives. These are extraordinary times, and whether we like it or not, appearances matter.

I'm trying to plan a cycle that is more about enhancing my appearances for professional reasons while minimizing health risks. As a professional economist, I can tell you that the world out there is far more uncertain than anyone in the news is telling you.

I accept risks have to be taken, otherwise my life as I know it will change for the worst. Now this is slightly hyperbole, but when you are in an executive position - your 40s are when you are most vulnerable.

First step - don't look like you're in your 40s. Second step - choose your enhancements wisely.

I'm sure we all know for example amphetamine is a great short-term solution, but very poor long-term solution.

There's no easy solution, but I think the consensus is low dose, longer term use of test/primo/GH is the way to go.

Anavar I'll consider, but I'm happy that most agree deca is not the best idea.

 

[mghoward74]

lmfao at 50mg of test per week. i hope that's a typo

50 mgs of test per week ??! ….. but add winny if he wants too lol

You’ve had too much internet today buddy.

I’ll actually respond to you few guys with some respect, because the old me would be a lil too aggressive.

Don’t take my response to the op as a sign of ignorance. TRT is exactly what it is. Testosterone Replacement therapy. An endo will prescribe dosages that benefits an individual in every day life endeavors, and to hopefully get your levels to where you were as a younger person. 95% of Dr’s are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week. If so, why? Tell me why they would prescribe more? Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not. It’s far more complicated than trying to explain on a forum to guys who regurgitate the same shit since 2010 (when I 1st became a member here). Remember var and winny are anti muscle wasting drugs. What does that mean? Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma. So before you comment, think 1st.

Have a great day

 

[mghoward74]

@eryximachus

I’m a few years older than you, and actually getting into the same profession your in, so I guess that’s just a couple of thing we got in common. I’ve done the big doses of gear and what not. Before I got started a mentor told me just to stick with test & hgh. There’s absolutely No need for all the other stuff, unless your competing in an event.

With my diet, pharma test & hgh and an oral, I look and feel better than any other time I can remember. The gains have not diminished at all. I’m actually stronger and bigger than I’ve ever been. At 6’3 240 ish

Good luck
Respectfully

 

[Blang]

I’ll actually respond to you few guys with some respect, because the old me would be a lil too aggressive.

Don’t take my response to the op as a sign of ignorance. TRT is exactly what it is. Testosterone Replacement therapy. An endo will prescribe dosages that benefits an individual in every day life endeavors, and to hopefully get your levels to where you were as a younger person. 95% of Dr’s are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week. If so, why? Tell me why they would prescribe more? Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not. It’s far more complicated than trying to explain on a forum to guys who regurgitate the same shit since 2010 (when I 1st became a member here). Remember var and winny are anti muscle wasting drugs. What does that mean? Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma. So before you comment, think 1st.

Have a great day

You barely even said anything here, you just waved your hands around and made veiled insults.

And the small number of things you actually said are just not true:

- "95% of doctors are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week."

Comically untrue.

- "Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma."

Comically untrue based on my own bloodwork and the bloodwork of countless clients I've looked at.

-Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not.

This isn't even a definable metric. You're just waving your hand harder.

-Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Everyone knows this stuff dude, just stop.

You're in way over your head here, my man. And doing all this hand-waving without actually saying anything concrete isn't making you any more convincing.

 

[Palifter]

I’ll actually respond to you few guys with some respect, because the old me would be a lil too aggressive.

Don’t take my response to the op as a sign of ignorance. TRT is exactly what it is. Testosterone Replacement therapy. An endo will prescribe dosages that benefits an individual in every day life endeavors, and to hopefully get your levels to where you were as a younger person. 95% of Dr’s are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week. If so, why? Tell me why they would prescribe more? Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not. It’s far more complicated than trying to explain on a forum to guys who regurgitate the same shit since 2010 (when I 1st became a member here). Remember var and winny are anti muscle wasting drugs. What does that mean? Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma. So before you comment, think 1st.

Have a great day

You’re not all there, are you?

 

[Rido]

I’ll actually respond to you few guys with some respect, because the old me would be a lil too aggressive.

Don’t take my response to the op as a sign of ignorance. TRT is exactly what it is. Testosterone Replacement therapy. An endo will prescribe dosages that benefits an individual in every day life endeavors, and to hopefully get your levels to where you were as a younger person. 95% of Dr’s are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week. If so, why? Tell me why they would prescribe more? Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not. It’s far more complicated than trying to explain on a forum to guys who regurgitate the same shit since 2010 (when I 1st became a member here). Remember var and winny are anti muscle wasting drugs. What does that mean? Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma. So before you comment, think 1st.

Have a great day

Bruh. True trt typically prescribed is 100-120

 

[lukiss96]

I mean, advice by some is solid here. But what is disappointing is that most likes received is for drug protocols, instead of actual advice this person needs...

OP, you’re not old and if you run even the most basic cycle and prioritize nutrition/training, your 40’s might just be your best look to date.

This is right 1000% (why no likes?) Cuz nobody wants to hear the truth!

Keep it simple, less drugs the better

And this is very important too!


Now my take on it is - if you can't get yourself lean on just trt or cruise amount of testosterone, then you need to get back to the drawing board and re learn some basics.

 

[phenominal34]

I’ll actually respond to you few guys with some respect, because the old me would be a lil too aggressive.

Don’t take my response to the op as a sign of ignorance. TRT is exactly what it is. Testosterone Replacement therapy. An endo will prescribe dosages that benefits an individual in every day life endeavors, and to hopefully get your levels to where you were as a younger person. 95% of Dr’s are not going to prescribe anything over 75mg per week. If so, why? Tell me why they would prescribe more? Do you know what the proper dose for an individual 20-30, 30-40 of age is, and so on? Probably not. It’s far more complicated than trying to explain on a forum to guys who regurgitate the same shit since 2010 (when I 1st became a member here). Remember var and winny are anti muscle wasting drugs. What does that mean? Do you even know that winny has been for a long time giving to horses to win races and what not! Do you know we use to give winstrol to our athletes to help the perform better? Probably not!

Most of you guys are on ugl shit which gonna require you to inject stupid amount of gear to get the same amount results as pharma. So before you comment, think 1st.

Have a great day

98-99% tested test is almost identical to pharma test. Yes we all know Winstrol was given to athletes lol you really are a special one.

 

[Theworm]

Bruh. True trt typically prescribed is 100-120

It all depends on labs, 70 mg has me around 600 TT, 120 mg may have another guy same level. I dose my trt to get my free t on the high end of normal. I base it on that and not the total mg a week.

 

[Rido]

How many days between injection and lab work?

"High end of normal" is also very subjective.


Also if you are running winstrol, clearly it's more than just dosing your trt. You have other things enhancing your free test

 

[TrenTrenTren]

You could get abdominal etching and delt/pec implants. Then you don't even have to diet or exercise.

 

[Theworm]

How many days between injection and lab work?

"High end of normal" is also very subjective.


Also if you are running winstrol, clearly it's more than just dosing your trt. You have other things enhancing your free test

I inject EOD so timing not an issue, my free t is right below the upper limit
Winny is just my 6 week blast not my trt

 

[Rido]

I inject EOD so timing not an issue, my free t is right below the upper limit
Winny is just my 6 week blast not my trt

so when did you get the labs tested? Next day?

or right before the next shot?

 

[Theworm]

so when did you get the labs tested? Next day?

or right before the next shot?

Next day

 

[Theworm]

Next day

My TT is 500s on trt but my free T is high normal;

 

[Callmedaddy]

While I probably won't use it, I'm open to all perspectives. These are extraordinary times, and whether we like it or not, appearances matter.

I'm trying to plan a cycle that is more about enhancing my appearances for professional reasons while minimizing health risks. As a professional economist, I can tell you that the world out there is far more uncertain than anyone in the news is telling you.

I accept risks have to be taken, otherwise my life as I know it will change for the worst. Now this is slightly hyperbole, but when you are in an executive position - your 40s are when you are most vulnerable.

First step - don't look like you're in your 40s. Second step - choose your enhancements wisely.

I'm sure we all know for example amphetamine is a great short-term solution, but very poor long-term solution.

There's no easy solution, but I think the consensus is low dose, longer term use of test/primo/GH is the way to go.

Anavar I'll consider, but I'm happy that most agree deca is not the best idea.

There’s a YouTube channel called vigorous Steve, he’s a body building coach but does lifestyle videos. You should check his video out about mental enhancement as well. He talks about modafinil and other peptides that improve cognition. His video explains it better than I can but it’s worth checking out.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Other 40s guys:

Have you quit drinking and other intoxicants?

Do you use anything for energy that is not a CNS (i.e. amphetamine, analogues thereof, cocaine, etc.)?

Any other vitamin or peptide injections that are worthwhile and not dodgy gray market?

I'm additionally figuring out life not in Manhattan, so I don't even have the time to train crazy anymore. I've really found I just can't drink, which is probably for the best.

Still don't have peak energy like 2+ years ago, though TRT helped. Sort of unrelated. But I really appreciate the great contributions.

I've been completely sober for a decade. Best decision I ever made. You just can't be at your peak mentally or physically with alcohol and drugs.