Stinkfinger1112
Member
Those are nice titts. Ive asked MSG to borrow her for a weekend, Even offered to autoclave her before sending her back!
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Those are nice titts. Ive asked MSG to borrow her for a weekend, Even offered to autoclave her before sending her back!
movingiron88
Member
That's the problem right there. MSG requests you send back used and not cleaned. He is a true freak.
Stinkfinger1112
Member
I would have totally got down on one of those is middle school
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Jano’s test results show that a product of yours was cross contaminated with another substance while W&W test showed that to not be true?
Stinkfinger1112
Member
Something like that...Someone sent in to Jano some of SYMS EQ that had deca in it or vise versa. The consensus was it was purposely contaminated and then sent in i think.
Logan44551
Elite
Yes, that sure did happen. @SymBiotics you should check out @aegean analyzer he has a thread in the lab testing
Pfft... we all know with his history it is more likely that Jano fucked the test up, once again.
Thanks. I thought so. @SymBiotics Why in the world would you consider Jano when there’s other choices? Especially since his testing has already made you look incompetent?
Just about any reply to the subject of testing will, I'm almost certain, invariably result in some form of disagreement; but I will do my best.
I will state this factually and transparently:
Shortly after my introduction there were some tests done by members who used @janoshik for the analyses. The tests seemed to satisfy the masses at that time. I wanted to make my products as attractive as possible, to the greatest number of people; so I contacted janoshik in PM where we agreed on him performing my next raw materials analyses.
After our contact, the hacking and email compromise events took place. My large inbound shipments of raw materials were not delivered as scheduled.
During the period immediately following this, the spurious results of my boldenone were posted. I began contacting W&M that day to have a full vial sent. Several days later he agreed to accept my sample and it was tested: accurately dosed.
After recovering enough to work and move into my lab, I purchased some new raw materials from a domestic supplier because the other cannot be located. When they were received, I contacted W&M for analysis for those few because I needed them to be available ASAP to align with my timeline for resuming business on this forum.
I have enough product to get me by until a larger amount can be delivered; so I intend to complete the business that I already discussed with Janoshik when my next shipment(s) arrive. I intend to do this because we had an agreement and I honor my agreements: nothing more and nothing less.
My reasons for choosing to do my future business with Janoshik are strictly business oriented and I will list them here: 1) I made the decision to conduct business with him when the member tests of my products were viewed positively by other members; 2) I agreed to send my business to him in our conversation; 3) His prices are considerably better than W&M; 4)) W&M has not been as reliably and timely responsive as I required in the recent past.
I have read all of the past drama involving analyses performed by all testers. I have no loyalty to any analytical service; and I believe that to be the most appropriate stance from a business perspective. I know that people have sent unlabeled raw materials to both testers; and they were correctly identified by both testers. Therefore I have no reservations or doubts in either tester's ability to determine the authenticity of raw materials. I hope that this correctly conveys my reasoning for this business decision.
Regarding the boldenone tests: I can only say that I knew there was no contamination of the product I sent out. Figuring out why the results were conflicting is not within my scope; and is a task better left to you all. I feel confident that I did not make a mistake with that compound because: 1) as previously stated, one is liquid-one is powder; 2) I didn't have any raw nandrolone when I compounded the boldenone; 3) No two compounds ever touch a common filter, bottle, beaker, or dispenser.
I will check into the Aegean Analyzer, and I will continue to consider W&M. But the next few raw material samples will be done by Janoshik because I already entered into agreement with him to do so.
I conduct myself this way because of the possibility of the "what-ifs":
What if there was no other testing option; and I burned a bridge with Janoshik by retracting my agreement to do business. I am certainly not implying that he would refuse me in the future if I back out now; but, again, "what if?". I realize that my notion of adherence to my word is antique in this venue; but it is part of the ethics that I hope will eventually set me apart from what is the general 'scumbag' opinion of UGLs. If it doesn't work out that way for me; at least I can fail with my integrity intact.
I hope this is sufficient to satisfy those who inquired.
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This is exactly my goal, eventually. I just don't have the cash flow to test raw and finished product quite yet. I am hopeful though.
Just as long as I don't go down like Hector I will be fine
I forgot to reply to this; but it was one of the funniest and truest comments I have read.
Night_Owl
Well-known Member
Well guess I'll have to stock up pre-Jano testing....
I hope you'll use someone else after your agreement with him ends.
Really appreciate the Monero discount by the way @SymBiotics ... XMR is the future!
I hope you'll use someone else after your agreement with him ends.
Really appreciate the Monero discount by the way @SymBiotics ... XMR is the future!
What in the actual fuck? Burn a bridge?
You simply send your samples in anonymously, Mr. Mensa.
You don’t need to worry at all about “honoring an agreement” because it’s better that Jano doesn’t know who submitted the samples - there’s less chance of bias that way.
Makes me start to think we have something going on behind the scenes.
You’re an interesting character. It’s like you THINK you’re doing something good but each time there’s always something “off” about it.
So because you have an agreement with Jano and your cheap you will use him. As BigBaldBeardGuy just pointed out, it should be anonymous blind samples but we get it, if you don’t tell Jano exactly what he’s testing he will probably get it wrong as he did with your bold and TGI gear just to name a recent few. (There’s actually close to a dozen cases where he simply just got it wrong). Let’s also not forget his dishonesty along with his stupidity. Hands down, Mands is the most respected guy on these boards. I was on another board (SW)a decade ago and Mands was a vet than. AnyWho, Jano sent Mands a fake report to a product he never even received. Or hell, let’s talk about how a Mod sent Jano two samples from the same vial and once again, he got it wrong which resulted in a lifetime ban.
Do as you please @SymBiotics but I for one care about my health and can’t take the risk with you/Jano and I hope others may feel the same as there are plenty of legit tested sources around. You’re laying in bed with “a conman”.
How would the sender send them in anonymously? Do you know if other source owners do this? You have to email him and have it paid for before permission to send them.
I am certain that other source owners did not obscure their identity for all of their tests because source owners have posted their own products' results in their threads exactly as I posted my tests from W&M. Are you suggesting that it is acceptable for a source to disclose their identity to one tester; but hide their identity from Jano? If this is the case, I can agree with your "What in the actual F*@k" question.
Do you mean make a fake email/identity for the purposes of obscuring my identity as the sample sender? If anything seems dishonest it is the creation of alternate identities in an already lie-laden forum. Furthermore, I don't want them to be anonymous because I will need to have evidence in the event that I need refund or replacement from the supplier if the tests are bad.
Here's what I THINK may be "off" about me:
I have absolutely no interest in covering up, manufacturing alternate identities, or obscuring my agendas from you all. I desire simply to: manufacture performance enhancing drugs, sell them for a profit, and have people glad they chose to buy them from me. I understand that genuine desire to do mutually beneficial business is an oddity here, and therefore may make people uncomfortable; but it is just that.
If I wanted to hide it; I wouldn't bother to explain myself when questions are asked.
The fact is that the vast majority of people would be pleased that some form of testing is done on the products they are receiving.
I chose to strike a business conversation with Jano because members accepted his tests on my products positively early on.
It makes no sense for you to criticize me for honoring an agreement, or for feeling compelled to honor an agreement I made with another business owner.
I would be willing to bet that if I had announced I would be using W&M for all future tests; that you or someone else would complain that he isn't on the forum much anymore, and therefore not credible. I chose him for my next round of testing because of the feedback from the members regarding the earlier tests he did. I am honoring that business deal in the face of ridicule because that's what I do-----keep my word, even when it is uncomfortable to do so.
The bottom line is that I am doing the absolute best I can to please as many people as I can. If you are not one of those people; I can live with that because I know I have done my best.
If you have any requests of me, please let me know; and I will do my absolute best to accommodate them. But I will not do things that are against my principles.
I suppose I can have them tested twice.
Yes, I'll just do that. It will take a bit longer to make the money for it; but okay.
Then what if the results are all the same? What then?
I sincerely thank you for taking the time to explain your reasoning rather than proposing that I am being deceitful.
God morning MESO. I hope that you all have a great Saturday and a great day off if your schedule fall that way.
I hope to enjoy watching us get a new college football #1 today!!
I hope to enjoy watching us get a new college football #1 today!!
Any plans to add primo to your list?
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