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Elroy Jetson said:
I pinned 3 cc of @SymBiotics test p on Sunday in my left calf using a 27g pin. All normal sanitary techniques were followed. Wiping vial tops for 30 seconds each with a fresh alcohol swap etc. I am pinning A LOT off oil so I was trying a new site (Virgin muscle). The pip was really bad beginning Monday and even worse Tuesday. I was literally hobbling around; calf was in such pain. However I attributed this to it being a new site and test p having a bit of bite at times. Yesterday (Wednesday) pain had mostly subsided however I noticed some swelling and redness at the site. An area roughly the size of my palm. Today when I woke up the area is extremely puffy and red; also very hot to the touch.

I was a bit shallow when pinning less than 5/8. Could what I’m seeing be a reaction similar to sub q pins? I’ve seen plenty of welts from gh. Just feeling a little nervous. Even slacks brushing the area kinda sucks at this point.
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Whoa whoa whoa... There can only be 1 Elroy Jetson...
 
Elroy Jetson said:
I pinned 3 cc of @SymBiotics test p on Sunday in my left calf using a 27g pin. All normal sanitary techniques were followed. Wiping vial tops for 30 seconds each with a fresh alcohol swap etc. I am pinning A LOT off oil so I was trying a new site (Virgin muscle). The pip was really bad beginning Monday and even worse Tuesday. I was literally hobbling around; calf was in such pain. However I attributed this to it being a new site and test p having a bit of bite at times. Yesterday (Wednesday) pain had mostly subsided however I noticed some swelling and redness at the site. An area roughly the size of my palm. Today when I woke up the area is extremely puffy and red; also very hot to the touch.

I was a bit shallow when pinning less than 5/8. Could what I’m seeing be a reaction similar to sub q pins? I’ve seen plenty of welts from gh. Just feeling a little nervous. Even slacks brushing the area kinda sucks at this point.
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That is an impressive injection for sure. I don't inject my calves since the first (and last) time a couple years ago. The muscles there are so dense that I could imagine each step squeezing a bit a 3ml bolus of oil back through the injection site.
About the injection: you said you wiped each of the vial tops with alcohol. Did you withdraw test-P from multiple vials; or was there a different compound mixed in the 3ml.

I cannot speak for your symptoms; but I have had more than one injection that ended up with some oil subcutaneously. Most often it was a gluteal injection because the position is a bit awkward for me. The symptoms of redness and inflamed boggy tissue sounds exactly like mine appeared.
I couldn't tell you which compounds caused it because I have had it happen enough times over the years that I know it was the subcutaneous placement that caused it rather than the drug itself.

Test-P makes me sore still, so I can only imagine how your calf feels right now. I hate this has happened; but please test new products in smaller doses in muscles that are conditioned to injection. This scenario leaves too many variables to even begin to formulate an explanation.
 
SymBiotics said:
Test-P makes me sore still, so I can only imagine how your calf feels right now. I hate this has happened; but please test new products in smaller doses in muscles that are conditioned to injection. This s
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No ones fault but my own @SymBiotics I hadn’t realized my injection volume, placement, and frequency needed some work. My knowledge on steroid use has been limited as I’m only 24 and just getting my feet wet.

The redness and heat has mostly gone this morning. I checked and no sign of fever or anything like that. I basically knew the injection hadn’t gone well and that was likely the cause of the redness; I just wanted to look here for some advice from more experienced dudes.

SymBiotics said:
you said you wiped each of the vial tops with alcohol. Did you withdraw test-P from multiple vials; or was there a different compound mixed in the 3ml.
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I was also doing an insulin and an hgh shot.
 
Elroy Jetson said:
No ones fault but my own @SymBiotics I hadn’t realized my injection volume, placement, and frequency needed some work. My knowledge on steroid use has been limited as I’m only 24 and just getting my feet wet.

The redness and heat has mostly gone this morning. I checked and no sign of fever or anything like that. I basically knew the injection hadn’t gone well and that was likely the cause of the redness; I just wanted to look here for some advice from more experienced dudes.


I was also doing an insulin and an hgh shot.
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In your introduction you mentioned you were mid cycle taking TestC,NPP & Tbol, but then here you happen to be pinning 3CC’s of TestP as well as doing shots of Insulin and HGH at the same time at the age of 24????

The fact your doing Insulin shots at your age along with some awkward cycle blast and admitting that your still learning and getting your feet wet is simply waiting for you to go hypo and into a coma with your jacked up red welt on your calf thinking where you went wrong.
 
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I had been using test c but since it has to be pinned less frequently than the npp I was forgetting injections. I ordered the prop thinking I could pin it eod with the npp in the same barrel so I wouldn’t keep forgetting. However @BigBaldBeardGuy provided a chart that looks like that plan won’t work either. So I may continue on the prop or c haven’t decided yet. What do you guys think?

The hgh and insulin are a brand new addition to my cycle. I have heard that this is the best way to gain size hands down. I’m trying to do all this the right way but I am just learning.
Noah86 said:
In your introduction you mentioned you were mid cycle taking TestC,NPP & Tbol, but then here you happen to be pinning 3CC’s of TestP as well as doing shots of Insulin and HGH at the same time at the age of 24????

The fact your doing Insulin shots at your age along with some awkward cycle blast and admitting that your still learning and getting your feet wet is simply waiting for you to go hypo and into a coma with your jacked up red welt on your calf thinking where you went wrong.
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Elroy Jetson said:
I had been using test c but since it has to be pinned less frequently than the npp I was forgetting injections. I ordered the prop thinking I could pin it eod with the npp in the same barrel so I wouldn’t keep forgetting. However @BigBaldBeardGuy provided a chart that looks like that plan won’t work either. So I may continue on the prop or c haven’t decided yet. What do you guys think?

The hgh and insulin are a brand new addition to my cycle. I have heard that this is the best way to gain size hands down. I’m trying to do all this the right way but I am just learning.
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I originally answered this question here but cut and pasted the whole thing over to your intro post. Don’t want to clutter up SymBiotics thread here.
 
Elroy Jetson said:
No ones fault but my own @SymBiotics I hadn’t realized my injection volume, placement, and frequency needed some work. My knowledge on steroid use has been limited as I’m only 24 and just getting my feet wet.

The redness and heat has mostly gone this morning. I checked and no sign of fever or anything like that. I basically knew the injection hadn’t gone well and that was likely the cause of the redness; I just wanted to look here for some advice from more experienced dudes.


I was also doing an insulin and an hgh shot.
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In the same pin?!?!
 
Noah86 said:
In your introduction you mentioned you were mid cycle taking TestC,NPP & Tbol, but then here you happen to be pinning 3CC’s of TestP as well as doing shots of Insulin and HGH at the same time at the age of 24????

The fact your doing Insulin shots at your age along with some awkward cycle blast and admitting that your still learning and getting your feet wet is simply waiting for you to go hypo and into a coma with your jacked up red welt on your calf thinking where you went wrong.
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Yeah man. You're doing so much shit wrong. I hate to say it like that, but it's true. I've been doing steroids for over a decade and I'm just considering slin and growth.

I think a good thing would to be to take a step back, just do test and maybe npp, and then focus on your diet and training. You're 24 and just came out of the best time of your life to grow.

Between 18 and 22ish, your natural T levels and growth are naturally amazingly high. If you didn't put on a good amount of size then, then it's really time to look at diet, training, and rest.

There's a lot more I could say, but I'll leave it at that for now.

I mean no ill towards you either bro, but damn insulin abd growth at 24 just isn't needed.
 
Elroy Jetson said:
I had been using test c but since it has to be pinned less frequently than the npp I was forgetting injections. I ordered the prop thinking I could pin it eod with the npp in the same barrel so I wouldn’t keep forgetting. However @BigBaldBeardGuy provided a chart that looks like that plan won’t work either. So I may continue on the prop or c haven’t decided yet. What do you guys think?

The hgh and insulin are a brand new addition to my cycle. I have heard that this is the best way to gain size hands down. I’m trying to do all this the right way but I am just learning.
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Aren’t you the dude who stated you worked for the ATF?? Boasting about how nobody will be getting anything through the USPS by 2021???

This guy is LE y’all. Watch out communicating with him.
 
iamnightowl said:
@SymBiotics the LE hunches are probably digital surveillance related.

From what I've gathered, they are not x-raying domestic packages (yet).

You are likely leaving small digital footprints without realizing it.

The only way I could help you is by asking questions that would not be in your best interest to answer.

So I will post a few tips instead:

* Don't check the tracking number ever,.. unless you run into issues with the delivery. Checking a tracking number with Tor basically flags your package (as most Tor ip addresses are publicly known to belong to Tor).

* Disable javascript on Tor. This is probably the best thing you can do for your opsec.

* Stop using mobile devices, trust me on this. It doesn't matter if you're using Android or iPhone, all of them have backdoors. All the way from google play services to actual hardware backdoors.

* Stop putting information about the order in the subject line of emails. You mentioned that new orders have to use the subject tag: ORDER. Don't do this. The subject line is one of the few things not encrypted, not even with ProtonMail.

* Take orders from ProtonMail only. Right now it says you allow secure email. However, just to give an example, emails from Tutanota to ProtonMail are not encrypted. I betcha this is how at least one of the packages was intercepted.

* From the darknet busts we have learned that the NSA is now involved with assisting the FBI. This is something to keep in mind. Unless it's fully encrypted Protonmail -> Protonmail, don't allow any other orders.

* Change your PGP key in ProtonMail to 4096 RSA in settings. It isn't this size by default.

* Don't allow people to send to the same bitcoin address twice. If you're using electrum, create an entire new wallet, don't use any of the other addresses. Electrum nodes can read all of your addresses.

* Use a full bitcoin node to prevent meta data leakage. This will require a 250GB disk space. And bitcoin core.

* Encourage people to use Monero, that 10% discount was in your own best favor.

* Ask yourself, what does every shipment have in common? Whether the preparation or the shipment itself. You are missing something.

* Again, stop using mobile devices, this will be your downfall.

* Turn your phone off when doing deliveries. I'm talking about leaving it home or removing the actual battery. Your sim card is sending signals to towers at any given moment.

PM me, we can email about this if you want more help, there's about 2 dozen things I haven't mentioned.
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Very good info there should be a thread or sticky on keeping secure and anonymous
 
You completely mistook what I was saying if you thought I was boosting. I get my gear the same way everyone else does; I was just sharing some insider information on the topic that was taking place there. The seizure of domestic packs from two or more sources in a short period of time. I don’t like I anymore than anybody else here.

As far as me working for the gov let me tell you a larger majority of agents use aas than not. That branches out to the military as well. I was in the Marines for 4 years and tons of those men were using as well. Roids aren’t heroin or some bs. Guys are on this shit looking for self improvement. I was recommended to this board by an active member that works for DHS; my partner who works for the Sheriff’s office is a regular here as well. News flash boys aas ain’t big on anybody’s radar at the moment.

Everybody else thanks for the information. I thought I was doing things the right way but seems I have a bit of learning to do still. Seems I should probably follow @BigBaldBeardGuy advice and keep it a bit simpler for now.


Stinkfinger1112 said:
Aren’t you the dude who stated you worked for the ATF?? Boasting about how nobody will be getting anything through the USPS by 2021???

This guy is LE y’all. Watch out communicating with him.
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