SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[jackmeoff1]

I was also unaware of the "subject line" visibility; so thank you for that. It has been changed in the instructions.

I don’t see any instructions in the pastebin regarding the subject line?

 

[Horimono]

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Way to educate bro, way to educate.

 

[Elroy Jetson]

I pinned 3 cc of @SymBiotics test p on Sunday in my left calf using a 27g pin. All normal sanitary techniques were followed. Wiping vial tops for 30 seconds each with a fresh alcohol swap etc. I am pinning A LOT off oil so I was trying a new site (Virgin muscle). The pip was really bad beginning Monday and even worse Tuesday. I was literally hobbling around; calf was in such pain. However I attributed this to it being a new site and test p having a bit of bite at times. Yesterday (Wednesday) pain had mostly subsided however I noticed some swelling and redness at the site. An area roughly the size of my palm. Today when I woke up the area is extremely puffy and red; also very hot to the touch.

I was a bit shallow when pinning less than 5/8. Could what I’m seeing be a reaction similar to sub q pins? I’ve seen plenty of welts from gh. Just feeling a little nervous. Even slacks brushing the area kinda sucks at this point.

 

[Cornfed]

I pinned 3 cc of @SymBiotics test p on Sunday in my left calf using a 27g pin. All normal sanitary techniques were followed. Wiping vial tops for 30 seconds each with a fresh alcohol swap etc. I am pinning A LOT off oil so I was trying a new site (Virgin muscle). The pip was really bad beginning Monday and even worse Tuesday. I was literally hobbling around; calf was in such pain. However I attributed this to it being a new site and test p having a bit of bite at times. Yesterday (Wednesday) pain had mostly subsided however I noticed some swelling and redness at the site. An area roughly the size of my palm. Today when I woke up the area is extremely puffy and red; also very hot to the touch.

I was a bit shallow when pinning less than 5/8. Could what I’m seeing be a reaction similar to sub q pins? I’ve seen plenty of welts from gh. Just feeling a little nervous. Even slacks brushing the area kinda sucks at this point.

3cc in your calf!?

 

[T&H]

3cc in your calf!?

I hope the guy is joking. This was a terrible choice, even if he's pinned calves before. 3cc, smh.

 

[Sp2.0]

Post a pic

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I was a bit shallow when pinning less than 5/8. Could what I’m seeing be a reaction similar to sub q pins? I’ve seen plenty of welts from gh. Just feeling a little nervous. Even slacks brushing the area kinda sucks at this point.

Slacks???? Well take off the girl pants and fucking man up a bit, Elroy! [emoji38]

3 cc of any test prop pinned anywhere is gonna give you a lump. Let alone in virgin muscle. And that’s way too much oil for the calf. What are you doing? Prop should be pinned ED. No way you’re pinning 21 cc a week. So much wrong here.

Test pin new gear. One cc max to see if it has a bite. Nope, you fill the barrel and say “what the hell, let’s jam this in a new spot. Yolo.”

 

[Elroy Jetson]

I usually do 3cc in a variety of locations with no problems; even traps. I had expected some discomfort due to it being prop and virgin muscle however what concerns me is the heat and redness. Also the pain had subsided and now returned.

I was under the impression that eod pinning would suffice with test prop. I know levels won’t necessarily be stable but something along the lines of pinning test c once a week.

I would like to because I know I’d get better advice with a visual but I work for the gov and have a recognizable tattoo in the same frame as the redness.

Post a pic

Slacks???? Well take off the girl pants and fucking man up a bit, Elroy! [emoji38]

3 cc of any test prop pinned anywhere is gonna give you a lump. Let alone in virgin muscle. And that’s way too much oil for the calf. What are you doing? Prop should be pinned ED. No way you’re pinning 21 cc a week. So much wrong here.

Test pin new gear. One cc max to see if it has a bite. Nope, you fill the barrel and say “what the hell, let’s jam this in a new spot. Yolo.”

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I usually do 3cc in a variety of locations with no problems; even traps. I had expected some discomfort due to it being prop and virgin muscle however what concerns me is the heat and redness. Also the pain had subsided and now returned.

I was under the impression that eod pinning would suffice with test prop. I know levels won’t necessarily be stable but something along the lines of pinning test c once a week.

I would like to because I know I’d get better advice with a visual but I work for the gov and have a recognizable tattoo in the same frame as the redness.

Plug it into steroidcalc.com I’m assuming you’re around 500 mg/week



EOD its got pretty sharp peaks and valleys



ED pinning is a lot smoother - not sharp fluctuations.

For your red area... 3 cc is a lot in the calf. Given you weren’t that deep, the calf didn’t take all of it, it pushed out of the muscle and into the subQ and is leaving a nice welt. It should go away on its own.

 

[Swolemonkey86]

I had a recent touchdown from Sym and have been very pleased with the whole experience. From communication to product presentation I would give Sym a 10/10... obviously this can prove meaningless if I’m injecting snake oil but he’s made a better impression than 90 of sources at this point in his intro/vetting process. I am also concerned with these domestic seizures but it seems Sym is making a decent effort to improve his OPSEC.

 

[Elroy Jetson]

I appreciate you taking out the time to post that on a holiday. Great information.

Plug it into steroidcalc.com I’m assuming you’re around 500 mg/week

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EOD its got pretty sharp peaks and valleys

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ED pinning is a lot smoother - not sharp fluctuations.

For your red area... 3 cc is a lot in the calf. Given you weren’t that deep, the calf didn’t take all of it, it pushed out of the muscle and into the subQ and is leaving a nice welt. It should go away on its own.

 

[Worf]

Lol yes quite the incel...u got me pegged brother...

I knew you were into weird shit

 

[Worf]

How’s your wife feel about you growing a mustache and drinking coffee from a paper cup all the time?

Does she mind picking up your short-sleeved dress shirts from the cleaners?

I bet she gets annoyed when you two are driving around and you get somewhere, jump out, put your hands on your hips and say “please step out of the car ma’am.”

Now we know what you look like Sym. How’s that increase OPSEC.

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Everyone looked like that in 1982, even the women

 

[OldSmice]

For your red area... 3 cc is a lot in the calf. Given you weren’t that deep, the calf didn’t take all of it, it pushed out of the muscle and into the subQ and is leaving a nice welt. It should go away on its own.

This is the most likely explanation. I usually test a new vial / source with a very small sub-q injection. Test P left a nice welt for a few days. Have used a few vials IM with no ill effects however. Jesus 3CC in a calf.... you’re crazy.

 

[Raisinballs]

Injected 5cc’s of sust into my temple (virgin area) but I have some swelling. I used proper technique. Should I be concerned?

 

[pfdept59]

Injected 5cc’s of sust into my temple (virgin area) but I have some swelling. I used proper technique. Should I be concerned?

just rotate between left and right temple you should be GTG

 

[ThyNoah]

Slacks???? Well take off the girl pants and fucking man up a bit, Elroy! [emoji38]

3 cc of any test prop pinned anywhere is gonna give you a lump. Let alone in virgin muscle. And that’s way too much oil for the calf. What are you doing? Prop should be pinned ED. No way you’re pinning 21 cc a week. So much wrong here.

Test pin new gear. One cc max to see if it has a bite. Nope, you fill the barrel and say “what the hell, let’s jam this in a new spot. Yolo.”

Obviously you guys are all wrong, of course he is pinning 21CC a week, he must of bought the $750 Test Prop Liter, he has to blast thru the whole thing!!!

 

[Grab Bag]

Obviously you guys are all wrong, of course he is pinning 21CC a week, he must of bought the $750 Test Prop Liter, he has to blast thru the whole thing!!!

@Noah86 is that replacement cyp still treating you well? Any more pip? How’s the rest of the sym gear you’ve been running since your earlier issue with the test e?

 

[Grab Bag]

just rotate between left and right temple you should be GTG

I dunno man, I heard rotating between left and right testicle for injections was better for absorption and steady release

 

[Worf]

So can the liter of test be hooked up to an IV for a slow drip? Be hard core wheeling that around in bag carrier stand at the gym.