SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

I'm not a autoclave sterilization sheet connoisseur nor do I know what he is using, but it's a bit concerning that the sheets are prone to be "linty" to begin with. Maybe someone with more knowledge about that can comment. If you're seeing visible fibers, I can only imagine what you are not seeing.
See he gets it^^^ Its not what you can see it's what you dont see! That's why I'm under the belief you toss the gear fuck re-filtering
 
I saw someone mention about he is probably taking orders for people not checking the forum but I placed an order Friday before this all happen and never confirmed the order or replied to the email I sent. Just thought I’d give an update on that part, but that’s all I got lol.
 
See he gets it^^^ Its not what you can see it's what you dont see! That's why I'm under the belief you toss the gear fuck re-filtering

If that’s the case, then why even buy from any UGL lab.. imo If it looks clean, I’m assuming it’s gtg. Troy can’t see what’s in other labs oil too right? How can you trust other labs as well? Sym has been good up until now.. I’m betting his clean vials are good.
 
Has anyone in the past year had an infection from Syms gear? I am not aware of any reports. Only God knows how many bottles have been injected. Hundreds? Thousands? Personally, up until this occurrence I believe his product is sterile.
 
Has anyone in the past year had an infection from Syms gear? I am not aware of any reports. Only God knows how many bottles have been injected. Hundreds? Thousands? Personally up until this occurrence I believe his product is sterile.

Exactly my point.
 
If that’s the case, then why even buy from any UGL lab.. imo If it looks clean, I’m assuming it’s gtg.

Systemic brother.
Systemic

I could tell you some fucking horror stories about what happens in an immuno compromised state.
Something as simple as one little invisible thread or spore could kill your ass.
(I could send some pics too, from some of my training courses)

I could also tell you some stories about guys with INSANE exposure, who were fine... and those with almost zero, who are either fucked for life or dead.

That's your belief brother, all good.

But nothing wrong with some people taking some additional precautions for their health
 
Has anyone in the past year had an infection from Syms gear? I am not aware of any reports. Only God knows how many bottles have been injected. Hundreds? Thousands? Personally, up until this occurrence I believe his product is sterile.

Post #2238, take it as you will.
 
I really don’t know what to do. The vials that I got that looked clean, I inspected extremely well, for probably a longer time then most would have. Part of me wants to trust that they are fine, but after seeing all these replies idk what to think anymore

Inspected mine this afternoon, found nothing so far. Planning a closer look under better lighting this evening, just to make sure I’m not missing anything. I’ll filter it into a sterile vial. I’m still using some stuff from one of his batches and it’s been fine, so I feel less apprehensive about it than others who just got newer stuff. But if I had actual floaters I’d be tossing it and never looking back.
 
Systemic brother.
Systemic

I could tell you some fucking horror stories about what happens in an immuno compromised state.
Something as simple as one little invisible thread or spore could kill your ass.
(I could send some pics too, from some of my training courses)

I could also tell you some stories about guys with INSANE exposure, who were fine... and those with almost zero, who are either fucked for life or dead.

That's your belief brother, all good.

But nothing wrong with some people taking some additional precautions for their health

Bro. I completely agree. But damn man.. I stocked up on a couple of grand of syms test for trt.. just toss it.. fuck..
 
Systemic brother.
Systemic

I could tell you some fucking horror stories about what happens in an immuno compromised state.
Something as simple as one little invisible thread or spore could kill your ass.
(I could send some pics too, from some of my training courses)

I could also tell you some stories about guys with INSANE exposure, who were fine... and those with almost zero, who are either fucked for life or dead.

That's your belief brother, all good.

But nothing wrong with some people taking some additional precautions for their health

I am just conscious because I spent 3 weeks in the hospital with septic arthritis a few years ago. Had to have both legs drained a number of times.

Maybe I am a little overly cautious but being immune suppressed I take it very seriously, so hopefully that is understandable.
 
I am just conscious because I spent 3 weeks in the hospital with septic arthritis a few years ago. Had to have both legs drained a number of times.

Maybe I am a little overly cautious but being immune suppressed I take it very seriously, so hopefully that is understandable.

I agree with you 100%
I've seen some shit when it comes to immune compromised patients.

It's my job to prevent that kind of stuff.

And want to be scared as fuck and take this shit seriously?
Be doing work in a hospital, tearing out the most disgusting contaminants in the world, while a 4 year old girl on chemo is 5 feet away from where you're working.

Best know your shit is on fucking lockdown and your procedures are 1000%
When I say its systemic, I mean if a job is done right, you CANNOT fuck up.

I lose sleep over potential fuck ups.

Maybe my perspective is different, maybe I take this PARTICULAR thing too seriously... but that's just my life/perspective and experience.

You get it better than most, microns can kill lol
 
I shook my vial of test cyp and the floater didn’t move. Then I scratched off the part of the label where it was and now it’s gone. So I guess something was stuck to the back of the label. Although I went and checked everything from other sources too. I found a floater in a vial of Sigma Deca. I’ll be addressing it over in Nandro’s thread
 
If that’s the case, then why even buy from any UGL lab.. imo If it looks clean, I’m assuming it’s gtg. Troy can’t see what’s in other labs oil too right? How can you trust other labs as well? Sym has been good up until now.. I’m betting his clean vials are good.
Well there is a good bit of trust that goes into a relationship with a ugl. You trust them to make good clean product. But when that trust is broken a d this many contaminants show up there is no trust left cause it's as simple as this: this is just what you can see with your eyes, imagine all the dust and shit that mixed in that you dont see. Do you want the shit entering your bloodstream and muscle tissue? I know plenty of junkies that used what they thought were good clean needles that wound up with bacteria in there geart valves and attacking the walls of the heart cause its what they didnt see that got them.
 
I shook my vial of test cyp and the floater didn’t move. Then I scratched off the part of the label where it was and now it’s gone. So I guess something was stuck to the back of the label. Although I went and checked everything from other sources too. I found a floater in a vial of Sigma Deca. I’ll be addressing it over in Nandro’s thread

See. Exactly my point... good
Form
Sir.
 
Well there is a good bit of trust that goes into a relationship with a ugl. You trust them to make good clean product. But when that trust is broken a d this many contaminants show up there is no trust left cause it's as simple as this: this is just what you can see with your eyes, imagine all the dust and shit that mixed in that you dont see. Do you want the shit entering your bloodstream and muscle tissue? I know plenty of junkies that used what they thought were good clean needles that wound up with bacteria in there geart valves and attacking the walls of the heart cause its what they didnt see that got them.

I completely understand, but what makes
You trust other labs clean vials? It’s the same, even though you can’t see it..
 
Idk if anyone has emailed him. I think he posted a while back that he doesn't do emails or Meso on weekends. Normally he responds to emails within a few hours, or at least that has always been my experience.
Well if hes staying silent for that reason with all the shit out there he sent to members hes a piece of shit in my eyes. Motherfucker needs to put that little rule aside and fix his sinking ship if he stands a chance at making anymore money off this board. Letting this fester is doing him no favors and sticking to his little fucking rule like hes chic fil a is bullshit.
 
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