SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

[bigpoppachump2]

I saw someone mention about he is probably taking orders for people not checking the forum but I placed an order Friday before this all happen and never confirmed the order or replied to the email I sent. Just thought I’d give an update on that part, but that’s all I got lol.

Now that's good news. I just got back a tiny sliver of respect for the guy with that news. I hope it stays this way.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I completely understand, but what makes
You trust other labs clean vials? It’s the same, even though you can’t see it..

That's the point I'm trying to make is you dont have anything to go on you have to trust your supplier. Until that trust is so obviously broken trust is all you have but now that so much crap is in these vials there should be no trust left in anyone's eyes with symbiotic.

 

[Mdrock98]

That's the point I'm trying to make is you dont have anything to go on you have to trust your supplier. Until that trust is so obviously broken trust is all you have but now that so much crap is in these vials there should be no trust left in anyone's eyes with symbiotic.

Completely agree.

 

[amtont]

Well if hes staying silent for that reason with all the shit out there he sent to members hes a piece of shit in my eyes. Motherfucker needs to put that little rule aside and fix his sinking ship if he stands a chance at making anymore money off this board. Letting this fester is doing him no favors and sticking to his little fucking rule like hes chic fil a is bullshit.

Should have been more clear. Im not trying to justify or say that is acceptable in any way. I was just saying that may be why as I believe he posted that a while back.

 

[amtont]

I agree with you 100%
I've seen some shit when it comes to immune compromised patients.

It's my job to prevent that kind of stuff.

And want to be scared as fuck and take this shit seriously?
Be doing work in a hospital, tearing out the most disgusting contaminants in the world, while a 4 year old girl on chemo is 5 feet away from where you're working.

Best know your shit is on fucking lockdown and your procedures are 1000%
When I say its systemic, I mean if a job is done right, you CANNOT fuck up.

I lose sleep over potential fuck ups.

Maybe my perspective is different, maybe I take this PARTICULAR thing too seriously... but that's just my life/perspective and experience.

You get it better than most, microns can kill lol

Thank you! It is honorable that you have such commitment to your job. The world needs more of that.

I dont think you can ever be too serious about your health. In all honesty if you dont have your health, you dont have anything.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I'm probably reacting more strongly to this than I normally would have. I am taking tren for the first time and I'm at the in laws where they keep the household temp about 8 degrees warmer than the warmest setting I would even consider at my house, couple that with the lack of sleep and I'm sure a touch more irritability than usual. Then I see this and I want blood!

 

[size26s]

I'm probably reacting more strongly to this than I normally would have. I am taking tren for the first time and I'm at the in laws where they keep the household temp about 8 degrees warmer than the warmest setting I would even consider at my house, couple that with the lack of sleep and I'm sure a touch more irritability than usual. Then I see this and I want blood!

oh man I’m on that tren and the house has to be 65 and the fan on when I sleep lol

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

You can refilter the gear. That’s what made it sterile in the first place, he bottled it into dirty vials.

0.22 micron PVDF syringe filters into pre-capped pre-sterile vials. That’s all you do with “semi-finished” oils. The filtering is what sterilizes the gear. It’ll also remove the debris.

You can also find needle filters. Those are single use for drawing.

 

[Johnny250]

Guys, Sym has been fucking by the textbook for almost a year. IMHO if this can happen to him it can happen to anyone.

I just hope he gives us batch numbers and a time frame of the contaminated product.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I'm probably reacting more strongly to this than I normally would have. I am taking tren for the first time and I'm at the in laws where they keep the household temp about 8 degrees warmer than the warmest setting I would even consider at my house, couple that with the lack of sleep and I'm sure a touch more irritability than usual. Then I see this and I want blood!

I really need to bow out and stay outta here lest I jeopardize people's refunds or resolution to this problem by verbally running symbiotic out of here before people are made whole if theres that chance. I just dont want to see anyone else throw money at this guy or god forbid someone gets brave and pins this shit thinking that no floaters means they got lucky and their shit was an exception since the vial "looked" clean.

 

[Mdrock98]

That's the point I'm trying to make is you dont have anything to go on you have to trust your supplier. Until that trust is so obviously broken trust is all you have but now that so much crap is in these vials there should be no trust left in anyone's eyes with symbiotic.

Tbh honest I don’t really trust any UGL completely. I’m not going to be so paranoid about this anymore. I learned something very valuable, and tbh I never thoroughly inspected my gear in the past and probably injected some dirty shit. Thank God I’m ok.

 

[Jsj1]

I would expect a Monday response.

Considering this dude prints jesus fish on his labels.....

I would assume he keeps the sabbath day holy and doesnt work.

What if he is jesus turning gso into test and he purposely put floaters in to test our faith

 

[Mdrock98]

I really need to bow out and stay outta here lest I jeopardize people's refunds or resolution to this problem by verbally running symbiotic out of here before people are made whole if theres that chance. I just dont want to see anyone else throw money at this guy or god forbid someone gets brave and pins this shit thinking that no floaters means they got lucky and their shit was an exception since the vial "looked" clean.

I’m just lost tho, if other labs gear looks clean does that mean they are gtg? These are ugls. Up until now, syms been on point.. how many other UGL had this happened too.. I’m sure a lot, it just never gets exposed.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Tbh honest I don’t really trust any UGL completely. I’m not going to be so paranoid about this anymore. I learned something very valuable, and tbh I never thoroughly inspected my gear in the past and probably injected some dirty shit. Thank God I’m ok.

This was the reason some of us were on your butt to slow your roll with the source praise. Just look at the two we have here and how quickly they shit the bed.no source is good forever. Its like poker, you get your money in when the odds are in your favor and you dont throw money into the hand when your read says it's no good.

 

[Villain]

I think it's wrong when people say primo is a weak steroid. Its only weak when you try to use it as a sole primary compound. Sure, nandrolone may be more anabolic mg for mg, but you can run primo so much higher giving it way more anabolic potential.

I think that’s why they consider Primo weak - it takes more to really shine and it’s pretty pricey on top of that.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

I’m just lost tho, if other labs gear looks clean does that mean they are gtg? These are ugls. Up until now, syms been on point.. how many other UGL had this happened too.. I’m sure a lot, it just never gets exposed.

That's the conundrum. The only ways to stay as safe is possible is the brew your own gear or filter all finished oils you buy yourself. Some guys actually do that and my hats off to them for taking that extra step to ensure their safety.

 

[amtont]

Guys, Sym has been fucking by the textbook for almost a year. IMHO if this can happen to him it can happen to anyone.

I just hope he gives us batch numbers and a time frame of the contaminated product.

Really hoping for batch numbers and time frame as well. Hopefully Sym will chime in soon.

I really need to bow out and stay outta here lest I jeopardize people's refunds or resolution to this problem by verbally running symbiotic out of here before people are made whole if theres that chance. I just dont want to see anyone else throw money at this guy or god forbid someone gets brave and pins this shit thinking that no floaters means they got lucky and their shit was an exception since the vial "looked" clean.

While highly unfortunate it seems that your opinion is that no one should pin gear from within the time frame even if it "appears clean". Especially not those with other health conditions or immune suppressed.

Not worth risking serious infection or other health issues.

 

[Mdrock98]

This was the reason some of us were on your butt to slow your roll with the source praise. Just look at the two we have here and how quickly they shit the bed.no source is good forever. Its like poker, you get your money in when the odds are in your favor and you dont throw money into the hand when your read says it's no good.

Exactly what I did to be honest. I got in when the getting was good. I’m glad you guys were on my ass for real. [emoji1635] cheers

 

[bigpoppachump2]

You can refilter the gear. That’s what made it sterile in the first place, he bottled it into dirty vials.

0.22 micron PVDF syringe filters into pre-capped pre-sterile vials. That’s all you do with “semi-finished” oils. The filtering is what sterilizes the gear. It’ll also remove the debris.

You can also find needle filters. Those are single use for drawing.

But if it were me I would trash it. Some contamination can dissolve into the gear and be missed d by filtration I would think. If there is known crap showing up in the vials I would not feel all peachy about that gear, ever. It would wind up sitting in my sock drawer for years until I finally just tossed it.

 

[Ari O’Speedwagon]

Has anyone in the past year had an infection from Syms gear? I am not aware of any reports. Only God knows how many bottles have been injected. Hundreds? Thousands? Personally, up until this occurrence I believe his product is sterile.

I was wondering the same thing. I get that this is definitely an issue and is unacceptable, but has anyone actually gotten an infection or had a bad experience with his gear? Honestly, I do a brief glance of my vials, but I definitely don’t do a thorough inspection. Is there any way to tell how many people have already gone through vials with these floaters? I’m not trying to excuse this. I just have a hard time believing this was the very first floater in a vial and I don’t recall seeing any posts about people getting infections from sym’s gear.