SymBiotics (U.S. domestic)

Look it up in the home brew section. All brewers and UGLs use 0.22 micron filters. There’s no other magic to this. It’ll remove the fibers and also filter out bacteria. The stuff you get is filtered the same exact way.
Just like in food processing plants I'm sure pharmaceutical industry approaches it in the same way, if contamination is found the batch gets trashed. They dont try to clean it or filter it for a reason. And I would and will always do the same if and when I come across dirty gear. To each his own but my opinion and belief is when contamination is found the gear gone, especially flys legs lol
 
^^^^ There you go @Tiredandhot

This jackass that thinks his opinions are the only ones that matter is helping guys by providing a REAL solution to this issue. I have nothing invested in it other than I care about this community. Do you know how many PMs I’ve answered on this same thing?

When you pop in and see me fighting with @Dianabol Skull Duster do you look at his post history? What has he done. Dude is a troll. Do you look at what @Connor 25257 has posted?

I’m not fighting just for the sake of fighting like CDNGuy. It actually was a kick in my balls that you saw it that way. I do all of this as a hobby because it interests me. I don’t get anything else out of it.
Understood about those two guys, but at some point you just leave those type of people alone and move on. I didn't follow the whole Connor thing recently by reading every post, but you and others were trolling him everytime he posted. Unless I missed some foolishness from him, it looked like he wanted to get involved. I know he screwed up with the dark web source stuff, but he seemed like he tried to change his ways and be an active member. I quit reading Dbol guy after his living in a RV thread.

But calling me a whiny cunt for openly disagreeing with you was out of character. I agreed with someone that I thought he should be given a 2nd chance and you said I and the other guy shouldn't give him a free pass. I just feel we should all be ok to express our feelings and opinions and not made to feel wrong in that. I know you add a lot on the vetting side, and other posts too.

Although the more I think, the more I'm leaning away from that now. Because sym could come back with a 5 step plan of action to rectify the problem, and it all be lies. Or he could actually find a bunch of vials at home with floaters, yet tell us all is good. At this point, I don't know anything other than I hope the affected members get made right. And I think he should have made a point to try and be active today, despite his schedule.
 
Understood about those two guys, but at some point you just leave those type of people alone and move on. I didn't follow the whole Connor thing recently by reading every post, but you and others were trolling him everytime he posted. Unless I missed some foolishness from him, it looked like he wanted to get involved. I know he screwed up with the dark web source stuff, but he seemed like he tried to change his ways and be an active member. I quit reading Dbol guy after his living in a RV thread.

But calling me a whiny cunt for openly disagreeing with you was out of character. I agreed with someone that I thought he should be given a 2nd chance and you said I and the other guy shouldn't give him a free pass. I just feel we should all be ok to express our feelings and opinions and not made to feel wrong in that. I know you add a lot on the vetting side, and other posts too.

Although the more I think, the more I'm leaning away from that now. Because sym could come back with a 5 step plan of action to rectify the problem, and it all be lies. Or he could actually find a bunch of vials at home with floaters, yet tell us all is good. At this point, I don't know anything other than I hope the affected members get made right. And I think he should have made a point to try and be active today, despite his schedule.

Dbol guy is a fucking mouth breather.

Connor is only half retarded now,
Hes making his way up to normal person.
I expect he will be here shortly.

However, I have to say.

You saying giving Sym a second chance is a bit out of character as well.

Yoi were one of the original guys giving the Shredded labs dick riders some shit when they were defending him

TBH I was a bit surprised that you didnt say something closer to "Sure a 2nd chance, if he insures that this never happens again, comes up with an action plan and proves it/upholds it to the community"

It's not too hard to see why people are pissed off.

Take me for example
I take contamination super seriously...

And I'm running Tren... so that has to be a part of it too lol
 
Understood about those two guys, but at some point you just leave those type of people alone and move on. I didn't follow the whole Connor thing recently by reading every post, but you and others were trolling him everytime he posted. Unless I missed some foolishness from him, it looked like he wanted to get involved. I know he screwed up with the dark web source stuff, but he seemed like he tried to change his ways and be an active member. I quit reading Dbol guy after his living in a RV thread.

But calling me a whiny cunt for openly disagreeing with you was out of character. I agreed with someone that I thought he should be given a 2nd chance and you said I and the other guy shouldn't give him a free pass. I just feel we should all be ok to express our feelings and opinions and not made to feel wrong in that. I know you add a lot on the vetting side, and other posts too.

Although the more I think, the more I'm leaning away from that now. Because sym could come back with a 5 step plan of action to rectify the problem, and it all be lies. Or he could actually find a bunch of vials at home with floaters, yet tell us all is good. At this point, I don't know anything other than I hope the affected members get made right. And I think he should have made a point to try and be active today, despite his schedule.

Gotcha. I didn’t call you or the other guy a “whiney cunt” just for the record. I asked why you had a cunty attitude back at me. Maybe I misread what you wrote back.

I just look at it as Sym fucked up, it’s gonna cost him the trust he built here over the past year and he’s gotta look at it kind of like starting over from scratch. So let’s see what he learned from it, let’s see what he has to say and then see if it’s enough or not. I didn’t say “get rid of him”. I want to see what his best foot forward will be. We need to demand he does better, right? Or am I off here?

Cause here’s the thing, TGI did very well here because we convinced him to test his product and test his raws. So that set the standard. But he went away. Sym came in and had the same tests and his lab was an upgrade so this is the new standard. See how any lab coming in has to elevate their game? MESO has some high standards right now.

But when Sym messes up and we let him get away with it with no improvements the standards get lowered. Now all the meth-head kitchen brewers have ground to stand on. I don’t want to go backwards. We want the best sources and the best gear. We got people from ASF realizing there are games being played on paid boards and they are joining us here at MESO because they are impressed with how we do things. Please let’s not go backwards. We’ll get good sources. We’ll keep the best sources.
 
Dbol guy is a fucking mouth breather.

Connor is only half retarded now,
Hes making his way up to normal person.
I expect he will be here shortly.

However, I have to say.

You saying giving Sym a second chance is a bit out of character as well.

Yoi were one of the original guys giving the Shredded labs dick riders some shit when they were defending him

TBH I was a bit surprised that you didnt say something closer to "Sure a 2nd chance, if he insures that this never happens again, comes up with an action plan and proves it/upholds it to the community"

It's not too hard to see why people are pissed off.

Take me for example
I take contamination super seriously...

And I'm running Tren... so that has to be a part of it too lol
Considering syms all around track record up till this point is the only reason I opted for an opportunity for a second chance (communication, ta, testing, addressing problems were good). Without rereading the guy I quoted, pretty sure he mentioned making things right with members and a plan but I might have overlooked him specifically saying those. Also the fact he's been here close to a year. But yeah, I'm leaning away from that now.

Shredded, lmao at myself as I gave him WAY too many chances. Fuck that guy.
 
For someone immunocompromised like yourself I would say ni especially. Someone else willing to be brave thats on them.

I'll let everyone in on a little secret. I'm almost ashamed to admit it since I'm supposed to be a vet here. I've been injecting at a minimum once a week for 8 years now and truth be told I got complacent and sloppy with my sterilization procedures before and up to iniection. Well I wound up with sepsis aka a blood infection that almost killed me. I injected that morning and by lunch I was shivering so badly that I left work to try and make it home. The fever and shivering to the point of paralysis got so bad that I pulled over on a major highway and called a ambulance which took many tries since I couldn't coordinate my fingers to perform the task. By the time the ambulance showed up I was completely paralyzed by convulsing and they took me out of the car frozen in the seated position. It was super scary not being able to breath and being on fire like that. And that was from using a clean needle fresh from the pack etc etc but maybe the surface I used wasnt clean enough or I didnt wipe thoroughly enough with my alcohol wipe idk but something was off and I almost paid with my life. So yeah I wouldn't touch syms shit with a 10ft pole and my opinion is neither should anyone else.
This is scaring the crap out of me and I don't even have any of his gear :^ /
 
It’s not an opinion like some little bitchy cunt pointed out, I’m stating the damn obvious because I’ve been on meso for a while and I’ve seen some shit.

Gotcha. I didn’t call you or the other guy a “whiney cunt” just for the record. I asked why you had a cunty attitude back at me. Maybe I misread what you wrote back.
Lol, who was said “bitchy cunt”? Just wondering for a friend.
 
Wow. Ok thanks for your reply. I may have to think this through. Hopefully Sym will comment on the timeframe in which this occurred as @Johnny250 mentioned. It was not a small order to say the least and depending on the timeframe it could be multiple fairly large orders. Was stocking up before switch to Monero.

Would definitely appreciate others chiming in with their thoughts as well. I will admit it is a major personality flaw but I tend to be very forgiving and easy going. I would almost feel bad asking for reimbursement, but I know with health you cant take risks.

I have never had any problems with Sym in multiple orders so I need to give it some thought.

This shit its kind of creeping me out though.
Lol. Your customers are going to be pissed. You’ve had two fucked up raw orders, you are late with your testing, and now you could be reselling gear with fucking floaters. You fucking suck. o_O
 
Considering syms all around track record up till this point is the only reason I opted for an opportunity for a second chance (communication, ta, testing, addressing problems were good). Without rereading the guy I quoted, pretty sure he mentioned making things right with members and a plan but I might have overlooked him specifically saying those. Also the fact he's been here close to a year. But yeah, I'm leaning away from that now.

Shredded, lmao at myself as I gave him WAY too many chances. Fuck that guy.

I hear where your coming from,
I think it was @Iron_Yuppie who's opinion I take seriously.

I guess I can agree on a lot of that original statement you guys said.

I just take this shit seriously, in a way that's completely crazy.

Like I said, I've had to deal with some fucked shit, and all issues are typically because of systemic qaulity control issues.

I have yet to see a guy in my proffesion who's on point, have a contamination mistake.

Guys who are 100%, have backups for every single aspect of the game.
Power went out for filtration units?
Backup genset.
Filters clogged?
Amperage is measured and a secondary unit is kicked on when the original machine struggles too hard....
I could go on for 20 pages about safeguarding lol.


But yeah, just tren ranting st this point bro lol.

Also yeah, fuck Shreddedlabs...
Going to go troll his thread right now actually.
 
Lol. Your customers are going to be pissed. You’ve had two fucked up raw orders, you are late with your testing, and now you could be reselling gear with fucking floaters. You fucking suck. o_O

Thankfully I have no customers. LOL. If I did I am sure they would be ....

I just did the testing to benefit the community because they helped me a lot with Dyna and pcom so I felt I owed everyone.

Why you always coming after me LOL. I don't think I have ever really spoken to you haha so I have no personal issue with you
 
Holy shit, looks like a lot of shit has gone down! In other news, I was camping and it was awesome! Okay, now to read a fuck ton of pages!

“cAn sOmE oNe sHare tHe emAil.”
 

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I personally inspected each and every vial from
Sym under a light pretty good. I got lucky. I didn’t find a single floater, and they all look clean and crisp. Judging by his past, I will use his gear. Moving forward, I hope sym comes here for feedback and an update.
 
I personally inspected each and every vial from
Sym under a light pretty good. I got lucky. I didn’t find a single floater, and they all look clean and crisp. Judging by his past, I will use his gear. Moving forward, I hope sym comes here for feedback and an update.
You going to filter it?
 
I have prob 60 vials of test e mast p test p both in mct and gso and no floaters. Now I will say the test e has some strong pip that has been addressed to sym. I have had multiple clients express their complaints on it. The test e in gso lot TE006G is the issue lot. Anyone else having issues from this lot? This was addressed to him earlier last week.
 
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