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Mac11wildcat said:
I know it was brought up. unless he’s referring to the test result thread.


I’d just prefer everybody was clear about what they’re trying to say. We don’t need smoke and mirrors and references and puzzles. Just state your point, you know?

as of right now, the TGI hit, the infection claim, and the g2gs/this source sucks based off test results without proof are all on the same level.
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Most of his mistakes seems fixable, just need some ownership in my opinion and a real story to clear the air.
 
MaskedLiberty said:
Most of his mistakes seems fixable, just need some ownership in my opinion and a real story to clear the air.
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Agreed. As always it’s the fact of whether to not anyone in particular is happy/feels safe ordering from any source. Every source here has had a problem like these. Infection and OPSEC are a bit more serious than a batch of cross-contaminated product though, at least in my opinion.
 
Mac11wildcat said:
Agreed. As always it’s the fact of whether to not anyone in particular is happy/feels safe ordering from any source. Every source here has had a problem like these. Infection and OPSEC are a bit more serious than a batch of cross-contaminated product though, at least in my opinion.
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agreed also, but the guy claiming infection did not post a picture or what his injection protocol was. 99 times out of a 100, at least locally, guys do not clean vial tops correctly. With standard alcohol swabs, it is 30 seconds per vial top, and use a new swab on every vial. This is a medical standard. MOST infections come from outside the vial, not in it.

I still can't get a handle on his opsec, wish he would explain better of what happened. @SymBiotics
 
MaskedLiberty said:
agreed also, but the guy claiming infection did not post a picture or what his injection protocol was. 99 times out of a 100, at least locally, guys do not clean vial tops correctly. With standard alcohol swabs, it is 30 seconds per vial top, and use a new swab on every vial. This is a medical standard. MOST infections come from outside the vial, not in it.

I still can't get a handle on his opsec, wish he would explain better of what happened. @SymBiotics
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I think (and this is just from what I gathered), he actually got hacked via the PPL/DO breach that they swear didn't happen (I saw the pastebins, I myself was compromised and had me email and Meso account accessed from using the same email address).

The hacker who got the info from PPL/DO gained access to Symbiotics email because Symbiotics had used the same email address here AND to order shit from PPL and DO. Symbiotics had said he ordered a bunch of shit from different sources to come up with his own stealth/labels and other things.

Apparently Symbiotics had used the same password (just as I had like an idiot) for his email account and his PPL/DO account. So if the hacker had all of his information from the PPL/DO breach, he had all the information to access his email.

The hacker had said that he had been in Symbiotics email at the time but didn't realize he was about to start sourcing.

As for 2FA and shit like that, Symbiotics had mentioned a recent iPhone hack people had been using, so I don't know what that all entails or how that was used.
 
The hack was a legit hack as evidenced by the other sources and members established here whose accounts were comprised. 2 members had their accounts taken over by the hacker/s and the hacker/s were using those accounts to bullshit with members here on Meso for a bit.

The extortion scheme for some members here and for all the sources was to request money to avoid being DOX'ed to LE. The hacker/s might not have been able pin these guys directly for LE to launch a full scale operation but they could definitely fuck with their businesses. If they had really gotten LE completely involved, Panda would be rotting in a PRC prison right now because he was the biggest fish here.
Sym's opsec "probably" got compromised by the hacker/s intercepting his emails with shipping information. The hacker/s then turned it over to LE for failure to comply to the hacker/s blackmail. Someone got paid a visit from LE and that's where his opsec got fucked. That brings us to this:

These hackers were legit hackers and not some meth heads sitting in their parents basements reading the Anonymous Hacker handbook to launching some simple DDOS attacks.
They did not get their knowledge from a noob hacktivist site to use simple exploits and they didn't just download a hacking toolkit from a darkweb store and go to work.

This...or...these hacker/s were the real deal. While they may have used a simple exploit like password duplication from some members, they very likely used other more complicated methods with others.
Their supposed disclosure to other members here of their methodologies while using hijacked profiles is bullshit.
No hacker...or any criminal for that matter...would give up the entirety of their method...especially to those they just fucked with or attempted to fuck with. Yeah, the hacker/s wanted to rub it in the faces of the members here but they're not going to completely give up their methods. They felt insulated enough to pull off what they pulled off and feared no reprisals because they knew WTF they were doing.
I don't believe PPL, Sym, or any other sources were hacked via the duplicate password exploit.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that one or more entities show up at the exact same time here, extort multiple people at the exact same time, hijack 2 or more members profiles almost simultaneously after the extortion to brag about what they did...then one hacker uses his hijacked profile to publically disavow the other hacker who's using the other hijacked profile?
One hijacked profile uses broken engrish to communicate to Meso's members the other hijacked profile uses comprehensible english...could have been the same hacker using 2 personalities to throw us off or it could have been 2 separate hackers.
Regardless, they managed to pull this whole extortion scheme off simultaneously and then show up under multiple hijacked profiles to brag about it at the same time. Wierd that, right?

On top of all this, correct me if I'm wrong, other boards start getting attacked by these guys as well. It isn't some freak coincidence that steroid boards, members, and sources all started coming under attack at the same time. This was a well planned, well coordinated attack. All these hacks didn't happen simultaneously by coincidence.
These guys knew WTF they were doing and these were sophisticated hackers from a collective pooling money by extorting steroid boards.

Sym couldn't figure out what happened and probably jumped to conclusions about an iPhone exploit going around...but maybe that was part of the attack...who knows.
I believe Sym was smart enough not to use the same password for his Meso account as his Protonmail account...not that others here weren't smart...but sources have way more to lose than us since they were sourcing, same thing goes for PPL and some others sources that got caught up in this fuckery...again I could be wrong...and...that...would make Sym and these other sources fucking morons for falling for a novice hacker exploit.

I don't buy the idea that Sym's Protonmail was hacked before he started sourcing. The hackers attack on this forum was coordinated. They didn't accidentally stumble upon Sym as a target. He became a target when he began sourcing. This part of his story leaves me suspicious as hell.

As far as the infection claim, that guy disappeared after we asked for proof so I don't even consider that a fucking accusation worth mentioning again.

As far as the tainted gear goes...if someone legit here sent his jesus-fish gear samples in for testing and can be vouched for then Sym fucked the dog. I can't prove or disprove that claim. Would someone gain anything from kicking Sym while he's down and pushing him out of here? What's the motive? I don't know how he could fuck up contaminating a liquid and a powder...especially with that fancy ass lab and the knowledge he displayed on chemistry. I used to do some pretty dangerous shit with chemistry, wasn't on his level chemistry wise, and I would never make a retard mistake like that. I don't think that's what happened but what's the other explanation?

Didn't someone else test his gear and find the compounds spot on and overdosed?
 
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OnTheRize said:
The hack was a legit hack as evidenced by the other sources and members established here whose accounts were comprised. 2 members had their accounts taken over by the hacker/s and the hacker/s were using those accounts to bullshit with members here on Meso for a bit.

The extortion scheme for some members here and for all the sources request money to avoid DOX'ing. They probably might not have been able pin these guys directly for LE to launch a full scale operation but they could definitely fuck with their businesses. Panda would be rotting in a PRC prison right now because he was the biggest fish here. Sym's opsec "probably" got compromised by the hacker/s intercepting his emails with shipping information and the hacker/s turned it over to LE for failure to comply to the hacker/s blackmail. Someone got paid a visit and that's where his OPEC got fucked.

These hackers were legit hackers and not some meth heads sitting in their parents basements reading the Anonymous Hacker handbook to launching some simple DDOS attacks.
They did not get their knowledge from a noob hacktivist site to use simple exploits and they didn't just download a hacking toolkit from a darkweb store and go to work.

This...or...these hacker/s were the real deal. While they may have used a simple exploit like password duplication from some members, they very likely used other more complicated methods with others.
Their supposed disclosure to other members here of their methodologies while using hijacked profiles is bullshit.
No hacker...or any criminal for that matter...would give up the entirety of their method...especially to those they just fucked with or attempted to fuck with. Yeah, the hacker/s wanted to rub it in the faces of the members here but they're not going to completely give up their methods. They felt insulated enough to pull off what they pulled off and feared no reprisals because they knew WTF they were doing.
I don't believe PPL, Sym, or any other sources were hacked via the duplicate password exploit.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that one or more entities show up at the exact same time here, extort multiple people at the exact same time, hijack 2 or more members profiles almost simultaneously after the extortion to brag about what they did...then one hacker uses his hijacked profile to publically disavow the other hacker who's using the other hijacked profile?
One hijacked profile uses broken engrish to communicate to Meso's members the other hijacked profile uses comprehensible english...could have been the same hacker using 2 personalities to throw us off or it could have been 2 separate hackers.
Regardless, they managed to pull this whole extortion scheme off simultaneously and then show up under multiple hijacked profiles to brag about it at the same time. Wierd that, right?

On top of all this, correct me if I'm wrong, other boards start getting attacked by these guys as well. It isn't some freak coincidence that steroid boards, members, and sources all started coming under attack at the same time. This was a well planned, well coordinated attack. All these hacks didn't happen simultaneously by coincidence.
These guys knew WTF they were doing and these were sophisticated hackers from a collective pooling money by extorting steroid boards.

Sym couldn't figure out what happened and probably jumped to conclusions about an iPhone exploit going around...but maybe that was part of the attack...who knows.
I believe Sym was smart enough not to use the same password for his Meso account as his Protonmail account...not that others here weren't smart...but sources have way more to lose than us since they were sourcing, same thing goes for PPL and some others sources that got caught up in this fuckery...again I could be wrong...and...that...would make Sym and these other sources fucking morons for falling for a novice hacker exploit.

I don't buy the idea that Sym's Protonmail was hacked before he started sourcing. The hackers attack on this forum was coordinated. They didn't accidentally stumble upon Sym as a target. He became a target when he began sourcing. This part of his story leaves me suspicious as hell.

As far as the infection claim, that guy disappeared after we asked for proof so I don't even consider that a fucking accusation worth mentioning again.

As far as the tainted gear goes...if someone legit here sent his jesus-fish gear samples in for testing and can be vouched for then Sym fucked the dog. I can't prove or disprove that claim. Would someone gain anything from kicking Sym while he's down and pushing him out of here? What's the motive? I don't know how he could fuck up contaminating a liquid and a powder...especially with that fancy ass lab and the knowledge he displayed on chemistry. I used to do some pretty dangerous shit with chemistry, wasn't on his level chemistry wise, and I would never make a retard mistake like that. I don't think that's what happened but what's the other explanation?

Didn't someone else test his gear and find the compounds spot on and overdosed?
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You get a "like" from me for the volume of words in a single post. I can't believe I read it all. Jeezz...lol.
 
You get a like from me for managing to post so few words and still make a point...plus that bucket of fried chicken was gold...who doesn't like them some fried mu'fuckin chicken?

...bonus points for reading the whole thing...it really was too much.
 
I still think we should eat that mothafuckin chicken to summon the dark Lord to feast on the souls of the hackers and I can get evil superpowers because who wants to be good. Mothafuckin superpowers comon who dosent want laser beam eyes
 
@OnTheRize onboard with all of it except the cross contamination. Intelligence doesn’t exclude him from being human. It’s a mistake we’ve seen from sources that are still here doing fine. To claim that a mistake is “impossible” is naive. Does that mean he made it this time, no. But what we do have is a result from one of Meso’s “accepted” test sources showing two compounds in a sample. As always, that has to be taken for what it is.

I think we all agree that claims without evidence are best considered baseless; the infection story, any “g2g” or “my bloodwork sucked on symbs test” without testing and/or photos is garbage.

Whether it’s bad luck or convenient coincidence, we regularly see sources have a personal/medical emergency right about when something goes to shit....just gonna leave that as it is for those to interpret on their own. It’s quite common..
 
OnTheRize said:
The hack was a legit hack as evidenced by the other sources and members established here whose accounts were comprised. 2 members had their accounts taken over by the hacker/s and the hacker/s were using those accounts to bullshit with members here on Meso for a bit.

The extortion scheme for some members here and for all the sources was to request money to avoid being DOX'ed to LE. The hacker/s might not have been able pin these guys directly for LE to launch a full scale operation but they could definitely fuck with their businesses. If they had really gotten LE completely involved, Panda would be rotting in a PRC prison right now because he was the biggest fish here.
Sym's opsec "probably" got compromised by the hacker/s intercepting his emails with shipping information. The hacker/s then turned it over to LE for failure to comply to the hacker/s blackmail. Someone got paid a visit from LE and that's where his opsec got fucked. That brings us to this:

These hackers were legit hackers and not some meth heads sitting in their parents basements reading the Anonymous Hacker handbook to launching some simple DDOS attacks.
They did not get their knowledge from a noob hacktivist site to use simple exploits and they didn't just download a hacking toolkit from a darkweb store and go to work.

This...or...these hacker/s were the real deal. While they may have used a simple exploit like password duplication from some members, they very likely used other more complicated methods with others.
Their supposed disclosure to other members here of their methodologies while using hijacked profiles is bullshit.
No hacker...or any criminal for that matter...would give up the entirety of their method...especially to those they just fucked with or attempted to fuck with. Yeah, the hacker/s wanted to rub it in the faces of the members here but they're not going to completely give up their methods. They felt insulated enough to pull off what they pulled off and feared no reprisals because they knew WTF they were doing.
I don't believe PPL, Sym, or any other sources were hacked via the duplicate password exploit.

Doesn't anyone else find it odd that one or more entities show up at the exact same time here, extort multiple people at the exact same time, hijack 2 or more members profiles almost simultaneously after the extortion to brag about what they did...then one hacker uses his hijacked profile to publically disavow the other hacker who's using the other hijacked profile?
One hijacked profile uses broken engrish to communicate to Meso's members the other hijacked profile uses comprehensible english...could have been the same hacker using 2 personalities to throw us off or it could have been 2 separate hackers.
Regardless, they managed to pull this whole extortion scheme off simultaneously and then show up under multiple hijacked profiles to brag about it at the same time. Wierd that, right?

On top of all this, correct me if I'm wrong, other boards start getting attacked by these guys as well. It isn't some freak coincidence that steroid boards, members, and sources all started coming under attack at the same time. This was a well planned, well coordinated attack. All these hacks didn't happen simultaneously by coincidence.
These guys knew WTF they were doing and these were sophisticated hackers from a collective pooling money by extorting steroid boards.

Sym couldn't figure out what happened and probably jumped to conclusions about an iPhone exploit going around...but maybe that was part of the attack...who knows.
I believe Sym was smart enough not to use the same password for his Meso account as his Protonmail account...not that others here weren't smart...but sources have way more to lose than us since they were sourcing, same thing goes for PPL and some others sources that got caught up in this fuckery...again I could be wrong...and...that...would make Sym and these other sources fucking morons for falling for a novice hacker exploit.

I don't buy the idea that Sym's Protonmail was hacked before he started sourcing. The hackers attack on this forum was coordinated. They didn't accidentally stumble upon Sym as a target. He became a target when he began sourcing. This part of his story leaves me suspicious as hell.

As far as the infection claim, that guy disappeared after we asked for proof so I don't even consider that a fucking accusation worth mentioning again.

As far as the tainted gear goes...if someone legit here sent his jesus-fish gear samples in for testing and can be vouched for then Sym fucked the dog. I can't prove or disprove that claim. Would someone gain anything from kicking Sym while he's down and pushing him out of here? What's the motive? I don't know how he could fuck up contaminating a liquid and a powder...especially with that fancy ass lab and the knowledge he displayed on chemistry. I used to do some pretty dangerous shit with chemistry, wasn't on his level chemistry wise, and I would never make a retard mistake like that. I don't think that's what happened but what's the other explanation?

Didn't someone else test his gear and find the compounds spot on and overdosed?
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BigBen that you? Just kidding but that sure is one long novel to be like a podcast lol
 
Uglyrichie said:
I still think we should eat that mothafuckin chicken to summon the dark Lord to feast on the souls of the hackers and I can get evil superpowers because who wants to be good. Mothafuckin superpowers comon who dosent want laser beam eyes
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The chicken was sacrificed. Choose your evil superpower....

I would choose to be an evil hacker.... :-$
 
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