shartking
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Why are so many folks upset/resistant to the idea that you shouldn't rum supraphysiologic long term without a break?
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It's discussion of the harmful effects and studies.Why are so many folks upset/resistant to the idea that you shouldn't rum supraphysiologic long term without a break?
This is a fair question, and I don't have an answer. Maybe it's some sort of defense mechanism?Why are so many folks upset/resistant to the idea that you shouldn't rum supraphysiologic long term without a break?
It's much more than that. I think alot of us are agreement that you need to take a break.This is a fair question, and I don't have an answer. Maybe it's some sort of defense mechanism?
That's exactly what I was speaking to.I feel like @shartking question speaks to the general tone of the entire conversation. That was what I was replying too.
Why are so many folks upset/resistant to the idea that you shouldn't rum supraphysiologic long term without a break?
This is a fair question, and I don't have an answer. Maybe it's some sort of defense mechanism?
I agree with everything you wrote, but I don't really think 200mg is a break from anything much.It's much more than that. I think alot of us are agreement that you need to take a break.
More than half of these guys that cruise on stupid high dose could probably just grow at that dose..
People "Cruising" on 600mg of gear is not a real cruise. Blood work can only say so much about the effects. dont know vascular integrity, heart function, etc.
The "Break dosage " is what the more recent discussion is. 100mg vs 150mg vs 200mg
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Meaning you went down to 100mg a week? Can you tell us a little more about your experience?Ok. Now that I’ve seen the side of the coin where one comes down to 100, I see why most people don’t want to in fact come down to a dose like 100. Most gear gains are water unless you’ve been training on juice for a decade. You WILL piss out a lot of gains once you come down to a lower dose. Difference between 125 and 100 is even palpable itself
More like 2 months. It’s not that bad per se but you’ll lose decent amount of size and strength compared to a blast (obvious) but also compared to 125 vs 150 vs 200Meaning you went down to 100mg a week? Can you tell us a little more about your experience?