Test and anvar cycle at 23, how dumb is it?

[thoroughlyconfused]

As I've said in other posts I'm pretty heavily injured. I'm doing all the right things pt nutrition etc wise but struggling to make progress. I want a boost. Obviously will be doing more bpc 157 and tb500 and possibly lower dosed hgh

But how stupid would doing 300 MG of test and low dose anvar for 12 weeks be at the age of 23? What are the risks of permanent suppression with this? I'd like to be able to return to being 'natural' after.

And what's the risk of any other serious side effects or facial aging with this route

Obviously will get pre and during blood tests aswell if I go this route.

I'm also on Finasteride and slowly transitioning to dutasteride and on oral Minoxidil, not sure how extreme with would be on hairloss?

Edit: also my natural test level albiet tested like a year back is 670

 

[malomkarom]

I won't give any direct advice but you will probably find the symposium @Type-IIx conducted which showcases a worked example of a 26 year old male model to be of interest to you.

tldr - 8 week cycle of tren to avoid shutdown

N=1, don't encourage gear usage. Especially while being that dense.

Especially not fucking tren TO avoid shutdown... what the actual fuck am I even reading this is straight up dangerous...

Guess I'm a karen for believing proven science and not recommending someone with 100% healthy test levels to start blasting while not bein able to work out with years worth of surgeries being needed for all the SERIOUS injuries he's unfortunately working with.

WTF man....

 

[Liter O' Test]

you listed like 10 reasons why you shouldnt be using gear
its not for everyone, up until like 10 years ago only athletes and serious gym rats used it.
already worried about hairloss,facial aging, injuries, natural testosterone recovery. seriously stop looking into steroids you will regret it. there is no free ride and they arent for you

 

[wells14]

Usually I'd strongly advise against something like this and explain why, but it looks like you're already a complete mess so just go for it.

 

[BabaJagga]

What is it with noobs and var? I started seeing this around 2018-19 and it's only magnified since then, so much that it's a fucking meme now. What kicked this shit off?

i think mike izratel or idk how its spelled and his "dip your toes in" with var only cycle.
10mg am/pm for 4 weeks.

on paper it sounds good. no need to inject. its not very suppresive by itself (from what ive read here), its called "mildes steroid", "for women" so people probably think "i wanna try something"

not gonna lie. var is great. 50mg preworkout, ideally when lean... god's candy <3

 

[sionnach]

not gonna lie. var is great. 50mg preworkout, ideally when lean... god's candy <3

Var has its place, but that's niche as far as a pin virgin should be concerned.

Dr Mike

God I wish that guy would get out of my recommendeds feed.

 

[BabaJagga]

Var has its place, but that's niche as far as a pin virgin should be concerned.


God I wish that guy would get out of my recommendeds feed.

agree. test first sounds like better idea.
i must say that i shouldnt give advice to anyone about "how to start" cause i started with 300 test in january and still blasting, kind of...

yea he is annoying. i think he has some mental issue(s), like, for real.
also, i checked his form on stage and he was just fat. if thats stage form, i could go compete rn probably.

 

[BabaJagga]

Man I miss my hair... Used to be so thick and lushes my barber had to sharpen her tools multiple times a cut.

Now I can't get anything more than a slightly longer buzz cuz with some fades.
I literally could've been a hair model and it all went away and never returned after 2-3 months.

honestly, i cant relate. when i was 14, i went to barber without parents and asked him to shave my head. i hated hair, especially my hair. he buzzed it down and then shaved with razor. my mom was so pissed, sister also and my das was kind of smiling. he was bald since mid 20's.

i never liked it. too much work and cutting. fuck that.

but i guess some guys cant feel good without it. i have one friend that regrets jumping into this game cause he fucked up
his hair. but again, i kind of understand but i dont...

if someone points that im bald, i laugh with "i grow hair on bottom of my head" cause i have thick, full beard. again, since 14-15 my beard grew like crazy.

 

[Elektrobot]

So a common trend in noting on this site is people don't read what a post is, then they send the most stupid reply possible while being a smug asshole acting like they did something.

The common denominator is you. Everyone thinks you are a moron.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

The common denominator is you. Everyone thinks you are a moron.

Uhuh yet it's only you and the other dumbass that replied stuff that makes no sense and didn't read what I said

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

A common thread I'm noticing is that you kids are retarded and don't understand simple advice.

Nothing you said even related to my post bud

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

What is it with noobs and var? I started seeing this around 2018-19 and it's only magnified since then, so much that it's a fucking meme now. What kicked this shit off?

I was reading it's good for injuries, if it's no good I'll skip it

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

you listed like 10 reasons why you shouldnt be using gear
its not for everyone, up until like 10 years ago only athletes and serious gym rats used it.
already worried about hairloss,facial aging, injuries, natural testosterone recovery. seriously stop looking into steroids you will regret it. there is no free ride and they arent for you

Ii guess what I'm asking is are these risks at 300 mg for 12 weeks? Or is it relatively safe? If these sorts of issues are likely even at this dose I'll skip the test

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

Usually I'd strongly advise against something like this and explain why, but it looks like you're already a complete mess so just go for it.

Lmao. The only reason I'd like to do anything at all is injury healing if it's gonna mess me up worse I don't want it. Just wanted something stronger because bpc and tb500 wasn't enough by itself

 

[Elektrobot]

Everyone thinks you're a genius dude. Blast away

Have your mom buy a lot of milk, peanut butter, jelly, and bread. You'll get big fast.

hopping on gear for how fucked up you are is straight up retarded.

Maybe it's best to just use the BPC / TB500. Forget the GH / test.

A common thread I'm noticing is that you kids are retarded

what the actual fuck am I even reading this is straight up dangerous...

you listed like 10 reasons why you shouldnt be using gear

it looks like you're already a complete mess so just go for it.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Ii guess what I'm asking is are these risks at 300 mg for 12 weeks? Or is it relatively safe? If these sorts of issues are likely even at this dose I'll skip the test

yes, if you are even worried about it , even asking this question, means steroids are NOT for you. you just arent the type of guy and thats OK , i only did steroids for sports, all these people that just want to be 15lbs bigger for girls have a bad time

 

[Elektrobot]

means steroids are NOT for you.

He's been told the same thing 100 times over and over in every thread that he's started.

 

[Elektrobot]

Test promotes protein synthesis

And you do not have a deficiency to warrant exogenous test

reports of anvar helping heal ligament injuries

...... then why didn't your doctor prescribe you anavar if that's a treatment for it? ......they didn't, because it's not.

I have a tfcc tear

Shoulder instability and proximal bicep tendonitis

And the knee, internal bone bruising, Hoffas fat pad impingement, high riding patella, and a MCL and meniscus tear

Doctors do not prescribe anabolic steroids for any of these conditions, because anabolic steroids are not a treatment for them.

Think for a second which one of you might know better. The entire medical community who has had access to all of these drugs for decades...... or you

It's not you bub .

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

Everyone thinks you're a genius dude. Blast away

You a s bigdas didn't even read what the threads were about and just said some random bullshit why would I listen to either of you? Absolutely will take everyone else's advice though

But I also can't do nothing..maybe skipping test and anvar isn't the answer but I absolutely need more then just bpc 157 and tb500. If you had the injuries I had you'd want a healing boost too.

 

[Slowww]

Lmao test to heal a list of injuries. And “I’ll only do one cycle while injured!” Anybody who juices and has been injured will tell you test is not doing jack for that kind of thing. “I don’t want a lot of muscle so I should do it while injured” is the weirdest and probably dumbest cope I’ve ever heard. Did your doctor recommend this?

Pro tip: People “act like smug assholes” because your posts and attitude merit that kind of response

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

yes, if you are even worried about it , even asking this question, means steroids are NOT for you. you just arent the type of guy and thats OK , i only did steroids for sports, all these people that just want to be 15lbs bigger for girls have a bad time

I'm considering it to get back to sports not to gain muscle. I don't want to gain a lot of muscle that would be a negative for my sport.

I don't see why people keep saying this in not trying to look better, gain muscle or be a bodybuilder. I've been unable to do my sport for two years which I live for and am desperate to get back