Logan44551
Elite
Quick question, is gc/Ms, nmr, a sufficient means of testing for oils? I am still learning about all this stuff.
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Anabolic Steroids
The hunt for a new lab for testing
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master.on
New Member
NMR and GC-MS are amazing for identifying the substances.
AFAIK NMR and GC-MS ain't too good at quantifying (how much is there).
HPLC is king for quantifying.
Eventually, the next tester
can get away with a $25k HPLC machine
like these
Isocratic HPLC Systems
and no NMR / GC-MS, instead relying on retention times (the time when the peak appears) for crude identification.
AFAIK NMR and GC-MS ain't too good at quantifying (how much is there).
HPLC is king for quantifying.
Eventually, the next tester
can get away with a $25k HPLC machine
like these
Isocratic HPLC Systems
and no NMR / GC-MS, instead relying on retention times (the time when the peak appears) for crude identification.
have answer from Jano and Lab4tox both looks good ...
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/lab-test-anali-jano-lab4.134393263/
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/lab-test-anali-jano-lab4.134393263/
Logan44551
Elite
Thanks for getting testing done.
Logan44551
Elite
I still don't trust him, I'd rather pay more somewhere else.
He detected corect 2 mixes 3 substance
Nandro mix and cut mix ( same batch i send to analizer and score was similar)
For my is ok...
Logan44551
Elite
Hey does anyone have HGH testing standards for calibrating equipment? I might have a lead domesticly, but will more than likely need to get a standard for them to setup the machine for testing HGH, it's currently setup for something else
Thank you nandro for doing this.
Rosconow
Well-known Member
Any Canadians, or anyone else, send samples to lab max? I enquired with them to test some methenolone acetate. $190 CAD for hplc testing. And its domestic for me.
maybe you could use pharma seros?
Logan44551
Elite
Someone else mentioned that. Unfortunately the person with the equient isn't ok using it for that. Marijuana just got somewhat legitimized out here and the hgh is back on the other side of things.
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Mathg44
Member
Whay do you think about FTIR Spectrometer?
Is it a reliable method to test if your var is in fact var and not 50% flour and 50% dbol?
Have access to free analysis in Canada
janoshik
Subscriber
I wouldn't ask master.on.
He is as clueless as he is mentally deranged. You are better off asking in more general terms on chemistry forums/subreddits, if you want second opinion.
Mathg44
Member
Aren't we all?
janoshik
Subscriber
Indeed. But the longer you look around the more you notice he's even more speshul than most of us. Therefore the warning.
movingiron88
Member
He is almost on @janoshik level. It's hard to achieve.
Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) Spectroscopy for the Identification of Anabolic Steroids - MESO-Rx
Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) spectroscopy measures the effect of this electron field on the nuclei of the atoms of the molecule. In this way, a characteristic fingerprint is obtained for the molecule.
An NMR spectrum therefore is pretty much (not quite absolutely, but good enough for our purposes) “proof positive” of chemical identity.
An NMR spectrum therefore is pretty much (not quite absolutely, but good enough for our purposes) “proof positive” of chemical identity.
janoshik
Subscriber
LOL, made my day, really.
If any meathead who had not majored in chemistry manages to decipher spectra as convoluted at those of oils, they are in a wrong field.
It's an equivalent of an article "Why buy steroid raws when you can synthetize them yourself?" It will just cost more, will require a load of time and will yield uncertain results, and frankly it makes no sense at all, but hey, don't be so unadventurous.
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janoshik
Subscriber
Being a productive member of society, I'd suggest that approach with LC-MS. Won't cost much more than NMR, lab won't bother to determine what each component is and it's far easier to look up steroids by their molecular mass for separate peaks (what average person can do with google) than deciphering convoluted NMR spectra (which is PHD level chemistry).
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