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rpbb said:
I use pharma (luckily, I can afford it). But in regards to muscle, he defends them non stop, and attacks and criticize people who in any way criticize the grey tops.

Like I said, Jano is defending his testing business, which I can actually understand. Muscle on the other hand, is a devious lying weasal, who pretends to care about people, but in reality is just defending the greytops (shill). the funny thing is that I believe the greytops are a reasonable option for trying to save money, and I think Dr J's and mands testing have shown that. But to claim it's made in some factory in china and is audited by the government is just silly.
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rpbb - you were not around a few years ago, but these same allegations that I am a shill, have monetary interets, etc.. are said about every source that I write something positive about. It all started with Karl's Somastim GH. Go back and read the thread where Dr. Jim tested it and there are these exact same accusations from CBS and Jim. The fact is that whenever people stand up for a source on this board they are automatically a shill. Yes, I am persistent; I believe that is a positive trait as I stand up for what I believe in and don't back down. I also have no patience for stupidity and misinformation(and have a habit of taking things to extremes). So put it all together and its not hard to understand why I am defending the grey tops here.

In addition, I have not lied about a single thing. I am one of the most honest people you will ever meet, to a fault. I also do not attack and criticize people unless I am attacked first. I would love to have a normal, civil discussion here. However, we all know that is impossible on this board when Jim is involved. You, CBS, and Jim are the ones who do nothing but post personal attacks on myself and PM nonstop. Just read this thread; its not about Jim's testing, its all about how fucked up PM and MH are. You guys can't even go a few posts without talking about PM or myself. So what reaction are you expecting from me given the circumstances?

I have an idea. Why don't you, CBS, and Jim try to keep my name and PM out of your posts and I will only post when I have something pertinent to add to the add discussion. Can you possibly do that? Are you capable?
 
rpbb said:
Muscle on the other hand, is a devious lying weasal, who pretends to care about people, .
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One more thing. I work in the medical field and there is no greater feeling than saving another's life. Every patient I see, my goal is to find a way to make their quality of life better!! I don't need to pretend I care; I actually do care!
 
mands said:
Here's another question. What do we do now? He have a grey top sample sent in and it's right on the money. Well it's .02mg off!!!

mands
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Is there a reason this report was not posted by Jim with sample number etc? And the other pertinent data you provide? looking to confirm if I need update the spreadsheet or omit this sample for now
 
CdnGuy said:
At least I'm not some shady fucker that has been literally camped out on this thread everyday since September 7th!!!! I wonder why ? :rolleyes:
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Been around a long time on many boards and there has nevet been any questions on my integrity or motives. But here at meso anybody that disgrees with the powers that be is unwanted and a shill. Whats the point in an uncensored board if you arent willing to listen to the opposite viewpoint?
 
muscle96ss said:
The view here is always so pessimistic and negative. Its good to be cautious and protective to an extent. But you also can't let your pessimism blind you from being objective and seeing things as they really are.
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M96ss this^^^ is by far my favorite quote of yours. Unfortunately you don't practice what you preach. I actually do "see how things really are" inregards to your motive here. So go spin your story to someone else who cares! Try going back to PM and begin there chief ;)
 
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muscle96ss said:
Been around a long time on many boards and there has nevet been any questions on my integrity or motives. But here at meso anybody that disgrees with the powers that be is unwanted and a shill. Whats the point in an uncensored board if you arent willing to listen to the opposite viewpoint?
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the great thing about meso is that there is no "powers that be"
 
noswttea4u said:
so they are actually supporting the cause.
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Why of course they are supporting the "cause" they are making a nice living in doing so, and that's where bias has it roots MOTIVE = MONEY. But you like many on PM, elect to overlook that fact and refuse to call a spade a spade.

Tell me what "cause" is MH "supporting" when he ONLY prances onto Meso to dispute GH data he knows little about? ……….. None of his outsider nonsense would be tolerated on PM.

He has been given ample opportunity to run his OWN assays to refute ours,
but nooooo this he loves being the GH naysayer, and after THREE GH analytical threads, THAT is "HIS REPUTATION" on this Meso.
 
mands said:
Here's another question. What do we do now? He have a grey top sample sent in and it's right on the money. Well it's .02mg off!!!

mands
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Forget Mands, I know which one this is. Wow. I guess I got some good stuff.
 
Well by golly considering how variable the results are there must be something WRONG with the data :)
 
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Dr JIM said:
Why of course they are supporting the "cause" they are making a nice living in doing so, and that's where bias has it roots MOTIVE = MONEY. But you like many on PM, elect to overlook that fact and refuse to call a spade a spade.

Tell me what "cause" is MH "supporting" when he ONLY prances onto Meso to dispute GH data he knows little about? ……….. None of his outsider nonsense would be tolerated on PM.

He has been given ample opportunity to run his OWN assays to refute ours,
but nooooo this he loves being the GH naysayer, and after THREE GH analytical threads, THAT is "HIS REPUTATION" on this Meso.
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More baseless claims. Jim, I want you to provide even the slightest amount of proof that I have any financial gain in any GH or AAS sales. Mands has even stated that he doesn't believe that I have any financial interest, and he knows most of the same people as I do. Do you not trust your friends either? look, I don't even order international because its not worth the risk for me, let alone sell the damn things. I am not going to risk my medical license or my kids' future for a few extra dollars; especially when I make over $100 per hour. That would be just plain stupid.

Also, if you look at this from a common sense perspective; it is quite arrogant of you to actually think that this thread has any significant effect on anybody's income. Do you really think that Tp is losing sleep at night because his sales are plummeting from your lab tests? Do you really think that all the time I spend on here posting is driving sales through the roof and worthwhile from a monetary perspective. You really can't be serious. Nobody on the other boards or around the internet is talking about "Dr. Jim's" tests. In fact nobody on the rest of the internet even likes you because they know you are a fraud and a wanna-be. So you sit here on the only board that allows you stay and go around butt-fucking your buddies CBS and rpbb and act like you are important. And then everybody that disagrees with you has an agenda and is a paid shill.

Come on man, post up some real proof that shows that I have some financial interest in the GH market. You wont find any because not only does it not exist, it doesn't make any sense outside of Jim's world.
 
muscle96ss said:
More baseless claims. Jim, I want you to provide even the slightest amount of proof that I have any financial gain in any GH or AAS sales. Mands has even stated that he doesn't believe that I have any financial interest, and he knows most of the same people as I do. Do you not trust your friends either? look, I don't even order international because its not worth the risk for me, let alone sell the damn things. I am not going to risk my medical license or my kids' future for a few extra dollars; especially when I make over $100 per hour. That would be just plain stupid.

Also, if you look at this from a common sense perspective; it is quite arrogant of you to actually think that this thread has any significant effect on anybody's income. Do you really think that Tp is losing sleep at night because his sales are plummeting from your lab tests? Do you really think that all the time I spend on here posting is driving sales through the roof and worthwhile from a monetary perspective. You really can't be serious. Nobody on the other boards or around the internet is talking about "Dr. Jim's" tests. In fact nobody on the rest of the internet even likes you because they know you are a fraud and a wanna-be. So you sit here on the only board that allows you stay and go around butt-fucking your buddies CBS and rpbb and act like you are important. And then everybody that disagrees with you has an agenda and is a paid shill.

Come on man, post up some real proof that shows that I have some financial interest in the GH market. You wont find any because not only does it not exist, it doesn't make any sense outside of Jim's world.
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Why don't you show us some proof that you're making a 100 dollars an hour with a medical license. I figured you were a paid shill living in your mom's basement
 
muscle96ss said:
More baseless claims. Jim, I want you to provide even the slightest amount of proof that I have any financial gain in any GH or AAS sales. Mands has even stated that he doesn't believe that I have any financial interest, and he knows most of the same people as I do. Do you not trust your friends either? look, I don't even order international because its not worth the risk for me, let alone sell the damn things. I am not going to risk my medical license or my kids' future for a few extra dollars; especially when I make over $100 per hour. That would be just plain stupid.

Also, if you look at this from a common sense perspective; it is quite arrogant of you to actually think that this thread has any significant effect on anybody's income. Do you really think that Tp is losing sleep at night because his sales are plummeting from your lab tests? Do you really think that all the time I spend on here posting is driving sales through the roof and worthwhile from a monetary perspective. You really can't be serious. Nobody on the other boards or around the internet is talking about "Dr. Jim's" tests. In fact nobody on the rest of the internet even likes you because they know you are a fraud and a wanna-be. So you sit here on the only board that allows you stay and go around butt-fucking your buddies CBS and rpbb and act like you are important. And then everybody that disagrees with you has an agenda and is a paid shill.

Come on man, post up some real proof that shows that I have some financial interest in the GH market. You wont find any because not only does it not exist, it doesn't make any sense outside of Jim's world.
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And we're waiting for your answer as to why they can't manufacture the grey tops consistenly
 
seems like the sellers should say something regarding consistency of product. Let's invite one....
@Platinum Direct
What's your take on all this hubbub regarding your product: the gray tops
 
Please is it even possible to have a END of this discussion?
Why not make some more time in more tests or search for another solution for maybe the next tests where it's maybe more accurate..?
I mean here is so much to read but in my opinion it is a never ending story here between some guys..

[emoji17]
 
I'm confused. Why is there any argument whatsoever?

We have a test here that has all the info PUBLIC. And PM has a test that does not have a standard so there is no data there really.

Data > beliefs. That is science. What the hell are people doing shilling the fuck outta gray tops here? THEY FAILED the test and people are using their emotions to state the test is wrong!??????

Produce another test to prove it.

Mr MASSE said:
Please is it even possible to have a END of this discussion?
Why not make some more time in more tests or search for another solution for maybe the next tests where it's maybe more accurate..?
I mean here is so much to read but in my opinion it is a never ending story here between some guys..

[emoji17]
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What is there to make more accurate? There is NOTHING wrong with this data. People just don't want to accept the reality.
 
I don't know I just thought if there is any way to get both of them satisfied..
Or it will never end..
It was just a thought that this will end..
 
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