Thinking of trying Tren...

[MFAAS]

So, as we all know, it is just so damn tempting when you see all these people talking about how amazing a compound is for body comp, strength, etc. Obviously Tren is the "golden nectar" that is fabled to be the most potent and all-around best anabolic substance known to man at this time. I have done plenty of test, NPP, anavar, and proviron, but never tried Tren (never did DHTs due to predisposition to hair loss). I was always concerned about the deleterious effects to one's health. However, I got all excited by someone having a christmas sale over at SST (who peeps have been saying has quality shit that's worth buying and great customer service). So I got 2 vials of Tren Ace, along with some more NPP and test of course.

My thought was that when gearing up for summer (starting around April/May) I would throw 10mg ED Tren Ace (105 mg / week) on top my TRT. I figure this is a low enough dose that the negative consequences to health should be extremely minimal, but reading other's anecdotes about low-dose tren it seems like it would still be rather effective as a little extra boost during my summer cut.

HOWEVER, I also have seen a couple people say that they get LESS side effects with slightly HIGHER doses of tren? They say that 100-150 mg gives more mental sides than jumping up to 250-300. Regardless, I know I won't know for sure until I try it and see how I react,

Honestly, I really want to run a trest cycle, but I don't have a source for it at this time. I found someone who could do 10g of raws, but I am not trying to drop a grand on something I am not really sure about yet.

Anyway, what are people's thoughts? I want the opinions of those who are more experienced with tren than I am. The lack of human studies really sucks here, tren is such a commonly used steroid that I just can't believe researchers haven't run more studies in humans to see the health effects. So I am stuck to just reading people's anecdotes and soliciting opinions from internet strangers

Thanks in advance yall!

 

[Eman]

I am predisposed to hair loss and tren actually didn't hurt too bad, I was cautious of that too because I knew some guys that weren't predisposed to it and they said their hair was coming off in handfuls. Just another anecdote to keep in mind.

I personally think that tren sides are still dose dependent. Meaning, the more you take, the more sides you'll get. I've seen that some guys do better with a little more, it may be due to the ratio of test:tren but I don't think it's solid enough to be a steadfast rule of thumb.

I think the 10mg per day would be a good way to test it out if you're apprehensive. You can start low and work your way up to gauge how it treats you. Definitely very conservative but a good way to judge your response.

 

[hyp0luxa]

Going into week 5 of 210/210/210 test/tren/mast. no hair loss except for a few days of very minor shedding in the first week (hormonal shock?). Minor sleep issues and night sweats.

No real mental sides, unless I forget to take my adex (0.25 e3.5d) then I get super agitated. Strength increase is very noticeable, and definitely seeing changes in body comp.

One thing I'm having trouble with is high BP. Never really dealt with this before and 10mg Lisinopril daily is barely helping.

This is my first tren run, and all the reading I did led me to include mast, as most report it helps a lot with tren sides.

 

[takkix]

In my case with 140mg test, 250mg mast and 400mg Tren i have the following sides:
bad heartburn(only were able to fix it by taking ppi)
way lower sperm volume
lower libido
tren rage(pretty pissed a lot of the time)

Kratom helped me deal with the mental sides a bit but it really is no nice experience. Got no sleep issues btw. Can't imagine having these too. Slept an average of like 9 hours a day since i'm on it. Even up to 11 hours. But i use Melatonin, gaba, theanine, glycine, magnesium etc. every day - don't know how it would be without. I use this stack daily since a like 2 years


The things i mentioned are only the noticeable sides. Didn't get blood work done yet. Blood pressure is fine btw

 

[MFAAS]

Thanks guys! That it all super helpful! The insomnia does concern me most out of all possible sides. If it kicks in too bad though I will try to mitigate with meds or just call it off. Insomnia is a show stopper for me lol.

 

[Cashton]

Going into week 5 of 210/210/210 test/tren/mast. no hair loss except for a few days of very minor shedding in the first week (hormonal shock?). Minor sleep issues and night sweats.

No real mental sides, unless I forget to take my adex (0.25 e3.5d) then I get super agitated. Strength increase is very noticeable, and definitely seeing changes in body comp.

One thing I'm having trouble with is high BP. Never really dealt with this before and 10mg Lisinopril daily is barely helping.

This is my first tren run, and all the reading I did led me to include mast, as most report it helps a lot with tren sides.

Try 5-10mg of cialis for BP, always worked well for me, could also be your estrogen rising causing the high bp.

 

[takkix]

Try 5-10mg of cialis for BP, always worked well for me, could also be your estrogen rising causing the high bp.

I also use cialis. Would definitely recommend it for bp management

Garlic Extract is also great used multiple times a day. According to examine.com this can drop your blood pressure by about 10, which is pretty crazy in my opinion for one simple and cheap supplement

Also the basic things like omega 3(fish oil), magnesium...

Hawthorne extract can also be pretty good and maybe arjuna

 

[Test_Subject]

~100mg of tren a week is a super low dose, but tren being tren you'll probably notice it unless you're fairly advanced.

Tren affects everyone differently, but I doubt you'll even have any side effects at that dose. I don't really notice the sides until I go over 300mg. At 600mg I was having to sleep on a towel so I didn't soak my sheets.

 

[BobbySweeney]

150mg a week is a great place to start on tren en.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Thanks guys! That it all super helpful! The insomnia does concern me most out of all possible sides. If it kicks in too bad though I will try to mitigate with meds or just call it off. Insomnia is a show stopper for me lol.

Never ran tren. BUT I have clinically diagnosed insomnia. I think many of the mental side effects such as the paranoia anger and whatever else is multiplied GREATLY by the lack of sleep.

Personally my sleep is so backed up the last 3 years I feel awful many days thank god I am way better now with managing it. But when I go on streaks of sleeping 2-3 hours of shit sleep a night I get paranoid, anxious, depressed and anger swings and almost anything even if it’s trivial, to the point it effects my daily life (mostly me just being a huge dick and feeling bad later).

Again, never took tren, but just making connections here and adding my two cents.

 

[MFAAS]

~100mg of tren a week is a super low dose, but tren being tren you'll probably notice it unless you're fairly advanced.

Tren affects everyone differently, but I doubt you'll even have any side effects at that dose. I don't really notice the sides until I go over 300mg. At 600mg I was having to sleep on a towel so I didn't soak my sheets.

I am really not looking for a hardcore tren cycle, I just want the minimum effective dose to really get a good taste of the muscle preservation and fat loss effects of tren for my next cut. I will be cutting at my TRT dose of test (180 mg) and am planning to just throw that low-dose tren on top. I should've clarified this in my original post. I just want to make the cut a little bit easier and not have to lose as much of the glorious muscle I'm gaining on my current bulk. In the past I have just taken anavar, but I want some extra oomph here and tren seems like the best substance to fit the bill.

My thought based off reading was that 100-150 mg of Tren Ace would be plenty to get those beneficial effects with little-to-no side effects. If that all goes well after 3 weeks or so, I may bump up to either 140 mg (20 mg/day) or 175 mg/week (25 mg/day).

 

[xcvcx]

Do 300/week minimum. Ace is nice and short acting if the sides get too much just stop and things will calm down. Inject slow and read about tren cough because it will scare you if you don’t know about it and it happens. It’s another level and it truly does feel like poison.

 

[Test_Subject]

I am really not looking for a hardcore tren cycle, I just want the minimum effective dose to really get a good taste of the muscle preservation and fat loss effects of tren for my next cut. I will be cutting at my TRT dose of test (180 mg) and am planning to just throw that low-dose tren on top. I should've clarified this in my original post. I just want to make the cut a little bit easier and not have to lose as much of the glorious muscle I'm gaining on my current bulk. In the past I have just taken anavar, but I want some extra oomph here and tren seems like the best substance to fit the bill.

My thought based off reading was that 100-150 mg of Tren Ace would be plenty to get those beneficial effects with little-to-no side effects. If that all goes well after 3 weeks or so, I may bump up to either 140 mg (20 mg/day) or 175 mg/week (25 mg/day).

I'm sure that you'll notice a difference if you're using it for that purpose. If you can run that little and get the results that you want, there's really no reason to bump it up.

People on the whole use way too much tren. It has become the go-to for slackers to run high doses of tren and halfass their training and diet. I see these guys at the gym all the time: they look great for a few months (always the summer) and then slowly go to shit in the fall.

 

[MFAAS]

I'm sure that you'll notice a difference if you're using it for that purpose. If you can run that little and get the results that you want, there's really no reason to bump it up.

People on the whole use way too much tren. It has become the go-to for slackers to run high doses of tren and halfass their training and diet. I see these guys at the gym all the time: they look great for a few months (always the summer) and then slowly go to shit in the fall.

Yeah I see that on the r/steroids sub, the doses there are crazy. I've already got training and diet down. I just want to try it as an experiment more than anything else. I'm gonna start at 15 mg/day for 2 weeks, then likely bump it up to 25mg/day if that goes well. Hopefully will be a fun little experiment.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Yeah I see that on the r/steroids sub, the doses there are crazy. I've already got training and diet down. I just want to try it as an experiment more than anything else. I'm gonna start at 15 mg/day for 2 weeks, then likely bump it up to 25mg/day if that goes well. Hopefully will be a fun little experiment.

don’t listen the idiots that are saying Minimum 300mg tren ace... i m running 600mg bla bla...

Try 150mg Weekly of Tren Ace (Mon wed fri) , with some test of course... and if it’s legit, your diet and training are on point you won’t need to use more than that... stack other compounds with it.. dont go crazy on broscientist dosages..

 

[MFAAS]

don’t listen the idiots that are saying Minimum 300mg tren ace... i m running 600mg bla bla...

Try 150mg Weekly of Tren Ace (Mon wed fri) , with some test of course... and if it’s legit, your diet and training are on point you won’t need to use more than that... stack other compounds with it.. dont go crazy on broscientist dosages..

Thanks man, appreciate it. Yeah I definitely am not planning to go that high. My diet and training is super solid (well, right now I am bulking so just eating whatever clean-ish food I can stuff my face with). I am excited to give this shit a try in a few months and really get shredded. Last year I just sorta coasted through summer at maintenance due to COVID and whatnot. This year is gonna be goood

 

[hyp0luxa]

Try 5-10mg of cialis for BP, always worked well for me, could also be your estrogen rising causing the high bp.

Seems like the BP issue was transient. I already take 5mg cialis. I had raised my dose to 210/280/280 and started having issues a couple of days later. Dropped back to 210 and it came back down to normal. Just going to ride it out at 210, shooting for 12 weeks. Good luck OP.

 

[xcvcx]

don’t listen the idiots that are saying Minimum 300mg tren ace... i m running 600mg bla bla...

Try 150mg Weekly of Tren Ace (Mon wed fri) , with some test of course... and if it’s legit, your diet and training are on point you won’t need to use more than that... stack other compounds with it.. dont go crazy on broscientist dosages..

He is right. The 300mg/w is what I noticed for "minimum" to make it worth running. Start low.

 

[takkix]

Yeah I see that on the r/steroids sub, the doses there are crazy. I've already got training and diet down. I just want to try it as an experiment more than anything else. I'm gonna start at 15 mg/day for 2 weeks, then likely bump it up to 25mg/day if that goes well. Hopefully will be a fun little experiment.

I would recommend to watch the Tren Dosage Video from vigorous steve. His recommandations are definitely more moderate

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I would recommend to watch the Tren Dosage Video from vigorous steve. His recommandations are definitely more moderate

bullshit man, lot of people didn’t notice anything below 300mg weekly so I would go for 300mg ED to be sure.. Vigorous Steve isn’t a bro... he def doesn’t know a fuck about broscience..