third week of pct, libido death! please help

[Seanz]

Don't start adding ai... your body needs to normalize. Get the bloods.! I've been in this position before. Turns out it was a nasty combination of hormone imbalance and SSRI medication. I'm still recovering my libido even though my blood work is perfect now. Patience my friend.

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[Sk8man101]

You should wait at least 4 half lives for everything to clear your system.
Obviously depending on the dose that will change.
If test e has about a 6 day half life:
1st Week off in your system is 500mg (this weeks dose)+250mg(from the last week)+125mg(from week before that)+62mg(2 weeks before)
=>937mg potentially in your system
2nd week off= >437mg left
3rd week off= >187mg left
4th week off= >62mg left

You NEED to understand the half life of all the shit you take.
Otherwise you'll run into problems like starting pct to early and having no libido.
You ARE NOT likely to recover while still having synthetic testerone in your system.

 

[Sk8man101]

You should wait at least 4 half lives for everything to clear your system.
Obviously depending on the dose that will change.
If test e has about a 6 day half life:
1st Week off in your system is 500mg (this weeks dose)+250mg(from the last week)+125mg(from week before that)+62mg(2 weeks before)
=>937mg potentially in your system
2nd week off= >437mg left
3rd week off= >187mg left
4th week off= >62mg left

You NEED to understand the half life of all the shit you take.
Otherwise you'll run into problems like starting pct to early and having no libido.
You ARE NOT likely to recover while still having synthetic testerone in your system.

I'll also add in addition,
If your 3 weeks into pct with only a 2 week break, that's 5 weeks since your last pin.
So this is really is your first week of having no synthetic test in your system. (Around 30mg techniqually)
I'm no doctor I'm just a humble learner, but I would suspect your lack of boners is likely resulting from having crashed t. If you can't figure out why after reading my last 2 messages then idk how to help you.
Dr Scally has graced you with some guidance, I would take it.

 

[Sk8man101]

@FutureMrO
Read what's been written in this thread.
And you will see why 2 weeks is not always enough time to wait.

 

[ironwill1951]

try not to worry about the loss of libido, it will come back.
stressing out over it can cause a problem with ed.

 

[ddp7]

zma and extra magnesium and basil leaf (albahaca)tea could help with mood swings and wellbeing feeling.

 

[MindlessWork]

Great info here and I certainly will keep that in mind myself as I am a novice to this game as well. Is there any difference in recovery for me being almost 53 vs someone who's in 20s or should I still wait the 4 weeks before starting PCT when I wrap up my cycle?

 

[ironwill1951]

@ddp007 some vampire bat wings, a dead mans toe, and some red hair curls from an 18 yr old virgin will work to.

 

[FutureMrO]

@FutureMrO
Read what's been written in this thread.
And you will see why 2 weeks is not always enough time to wait.

Thank you

 

[Sk8man101]

Thank you

No worries man

 

[Chris wolf]

No AI during PCT that's what Nolv does! Don't fuck around and get thru your thick head bro.. follow the PCT!

Ok! thanks!!

 

[Sk8man101]

Great info here and I certainly will keep that in mind myself as I am a novice to this game as well. Is there any difference in recovery for me being almost 53 vs someone who's in 20s or should I still wait the 4 weeks before starting PCT when I wrap up my cycle?

I'm sure you already found the answer, but since no one answered you.

Since your calculating the half lifes the same rules still apply to every age group. I'm sure that some could say that the older you get the slower you are at metabolizing things, but this varies from person to person and it is a minuscule difference.

 

[nervje]

Depends... But no less than 3 weeks. Closer to 4.

Sorry for kinda hijacking the thread, ive been using test cyp for a 3 year blast and cruise, switched to propionate for the last month and am soon to pct. I decided to start the orals 2 weeks after last propionate pin, would that be sufficient time so all esters (cyp and prop) are cleared out? Would be 2 weeks for the propionate and 1 and a half months for the cypionate to clear out until i start serms..

 

[Eman]

Sorry for kinda hijacking the thread, ive been using test cyp for a 3 year blast and cruise, switched to propionate for the last month and am soon to pct. I decided to start the orals 2 weeks after last propionate pin, would that be sufficient time so all esters (cyp and prop) are cleared out? Would be 2 weeks for the propionate and 1 and a half months for the cypionate to clear out until i start serms..

What is prop dose?

I'd get hCG....

 

[nervje]

What is prop dose?

I'd get hCG....

Prop dose is 0.7ml eod, so i hit a total of 250mg a week.
I started hcg 4 days ago, it is the power pct protocol, 2000iu eod for 20 days, i planned it like this:
Start first hcg pin when i have 10 days of propipnate left, then after the last propionate pin i have another 10 days of hcg only. 4 days after the last hcg pin starting the serms for a total of 14 days between the propionate and the serms.

 

[Eman]

Prop dose is 0.7ml eod, so i hit a total of 250mg a week.
I started hcg 4 days ago, it is the power pct protocol, 2000iu eod for 20 days, i planned it like this:
Start first hcg pin when i have 10 days of propipnate left, then after the last propionate pin i have another 10 days of hcg only. 4 days after the last hcg pin starting the serms for a total of 14 days between the propionate and the serms.

That sounds about right. Good luck with your recovery.

Why are you coming off?

 

[nervje]

That sounds about right. Good luck with your recovery.

Why are you coming off?

fertility reasons and i try to get my natural levels back up again.
Im too afraid i will have erectile dysfunction and other side effects when i stay on trt doses and stuff so as long as im young and have a chance of returning normal levels i will try to do it

 

[Eman]

fertility reasons and i try to get my natural levels back up again.
Im too afraid i will have erectile dysfunction and other side effects when i stay on trt doses and stuff so as long as im young and have a chance of returning normal levels i will try to do it

Good for you. Best of luck.

 

[Domino23]

fertility reasons and i try to get my natural levels back up again.
Im too afraid i will have erectile dysfunction and other side effects when i stay on trt doses and stuff so as long as im young and have a chance of returning normal levels i will try to do it

We're in the same boat. I've been blasting and cruising for almost a year and ive decided to pct and try to restore natural levels at the end of my current 10 week blast which I am 2 weeks into. How did your recovery go with the power pct method? Really interested..

 

[Sk8man101]

We're in the same boat. I've been blasting and cruising for almost a year and ive decided to pct and try to restore natural levels at the end of my current 10 week blast which I am 2 weeks into. How did your recovery go with the power pct method? Really interested..

Kind of a bump, good luck man!


Honestly this thread has some good info on why the 2 week rule is bullshit and the more people that read it, the better.